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Aeon Amadi
Ahrendee Inc. Negative-Feedback
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Posted - 2015.04.01 22:35:00 -
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Like, dear god, I hated everything about this match...
https://youtu.be/lJTiZfWXKX4?t=5m25s
TL;DW - Ambush (no installations) one team decided to just camp the two silos and kite us I switched to Sniper Rifle Landed a few kills and destroyed drop uplinks to try and get them off the silo Marginally won because the freaggin timer expired.
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LOOKMOM NOHANDS
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Posted - 2015.04.01 22:40:00 -
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Aeon Amadi wrote:Like, dear god, I hated everything about this match... https://youtu.be/lJTiZfWXKX4?t=5m25sTL;DW - Ambush (no installations) one team decided to just camp the two silos and kite us I switched to Sniper Rifle Landed a few kills and destroyed drop uplinks to try and get them off the silo Marginally won because the freaggin timer expired.
This is what the mini flux orbitals was meant to prevent. Too bad a flux grenade takes out more equipment than a mini flux orbital. |
1st Lieutenant Tiberius
0uter.Heaven Back and Forth
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Posted - 2015.04.01 22:51:00 -
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Standard "Kain Spero and his cronies" strategy
The Sinwarden of 0uter.Heaven
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Indianna Pwns
Circle of Huskarl Minmatar Republic
65
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Posted - 2015.04.01 23:00:00 -
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1st Lieutenant Tiberius wrote:Standard "Kain Spero and his cronies" strategy
You guys would have straight up destroyed us in a face to face brawl. You do what you have to!!
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1st Lieutenant Tiberius
0uter.Heaven Back and Forth
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Posted - 2015.04.01 23:06:00 -
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Indianna Pwns wrote:1st Lieutenant Tiberius wrote:Standard "Kain Spero and his cronies" strategy You guys would have straight up destroyed us in a face to face brawl. You do what you have to!!
Much more respect to those who stand and fight than those who cower and exploit. But you know thats just my opinion.
The days of all out Ambush brawls seem to be over
The Sinwarden of 0uter.Heaven
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Himiko Kuronaga
Fatal Absolution Negative-Feedback
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Posted - 2015.04.01 23:10:00 -
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Kiting is considered an exploit now? Pretty sure thats a valid tactic in any game.
An infuriating one, mind you, but valid and highly effective.
Usually banned for being too awesome.
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True Adamance
Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
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Posted - 2015.04.01 23:12:00 -
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Aeon Amadi wrote:Like, dear god, I hated everything about this match... https://youtu.be/lJTiZfWXKX4?t=5m25sTL;DW - Ambush (no installations) one team decided to just camp the two silos and kite us I switched to Sniper Rifle Landed a few kills and destroyed drop uplinks to try and get them off the silo Marginally won because the freaggin timer expired.
Lol that looks hilariously stupid.
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1st Lieutenant Tiberius
0uter.Heaven Back and Forth
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Posted - 2015.04.01 23:15:00 -
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Himiko Kuronaga wrote:Kiting is considered an exploit now? Pretty sure thats a valid tactic in any game.
An infuriating one, mind you, but valid and highly effective.
I was mostly talking about maintaining otherwise unreachable high ground where features that are designed to counter them are flawed/non-working (Flux OBs and what not)
Though a jumpy caldari assault squad with PLCs or MDs could probably clear that, or Snipers like Aeon and Kaizuka were doing.
The Sinwarden of 0uter.Heaven
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PARKOUR PRACTIONER
Nos Nothi
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Posted - 2015.04.01 23:32:00 -
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That looked awful. I appreciate your tactical play on your part though.
/Z)/V//V /V//V//\ , /V)´/`/-// /V//V//\
Minmatar in DUST & out
Autistic AM Skater, Parkour practitioner, Artist
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Aeon Amadi
Ahrendee Inc. Negative-Feedback
9406
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Posted - 2015.04.01 23:37:00 -
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PARKOUR PRACTIONER wrote:That looked awful. I appreciate your tactical play on your part though.
Was that or just let them kite-farm the team. I kill Drop Uplinks for a living lately.
EDIT: Also why I still want a 1m Flux Radius from sniper rifle shots for near misses on the ****ers.
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LUGMOS
Corrosive Synergy Rise Of Legion.
3211
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Posted - 2015.04.01 23:40:00 -
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Aeon Amadi wrote:PARKOUR PRACTIONER wrote:That looked awful. I appreciate your tactical play on your part though. Was that or just let them kite-farm the team. I kill Drop Uplinks for a living lately. EDIT: Also why I still want a 1m Flux Radius from sniper rifle shots for near misses on the ****ers. Just take half a second longer to fix your aim.... Its not rediculously hard, but it would make it super easy I guess.
That looked frustrating.
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LOOKMOM NOHANDS
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Posted - 2015.04.01 23:49:00 -
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Aeon Amadi wrote:PARKOUR PRACTIONER wrote:That looked awful. I appreciate your tactical play on your part though. Was that or just let them kite-farm the team. I kill Drop Uplinks for a living lately. EDIT: Also why I still want a 1m Flux Radius from sniper rifle shots for near misses on the ****ers.
High damage flux rounds would be awesome. This would make a new niche in support snipers both for weakening the enemy and for popping equipment.
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Aeon Amadi
Ahrendee Inc. Negative-Feedback
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Posted - 2015.04.02 00:00:00 -
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LUGMOS wrote:Aeon Amadi wrote:PARKOUR PRACTIONER wrote:That looked awful. I appreciate your tactical play on your part though. Was that or just let them kite-farm the team. I kill Drop Uplinks for a living lately. EDIT: Also why I still want a 1m Flux Radius from sniper rifle shots for near misses on the ****ers. Just take half a second longer to fix your aim.... Its not rediculously hard, but it would make it super easy I guess. That looked frustrating.
Nah, sometimes it'll give you a false positive and highlight the reticle red even if the round is going to miss. Especially at longer ranges. A lot of time you have to sort of plot where the thing is based on the flash-light in the center of it because the symbol will be off or distort your view. Gets annoying.
Sometimes you can't even hit it because the terrain hasn't fully rendered due to distance and it'll turn the reticle red even though there's an entire wall in the way. Particularly bad on the new Caldari Sockets.
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SgtMajSquish MLBJ
Consolidated Dust
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Posted - 2015.04.02 00:06:00 -
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Aeon Amadi wrote:Like, dear god, I hated everything about this match... https://youtu.be/lJTiZfWXKX4?t=5m25sTL;DW - Ambush (no installations) one team decided to just camp the two silos and kite us I switched to Sniper Rifle Landed a few kills and destroyed drop uplinks to try and get them off the silo Marginally won because the freaggin timer expired. you do realize that you can have more than 8 fittings?
CPMs should stop acting like they have power and remember their true position. Scapegoats for CCP
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Aeon Amadi
Ahrendee Inc. Negative-Feedback
9406
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Posted - 2015.04.02 00:07:00 -
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SgtMajSquish MLBJ wrote:Aeon Amadi wrote:Like, dear god, I hated everything about this match... https://youtu.be/lJTiZfWXKX4?t=5m25sTL;DW - Ambush (no installations) one team decided to just camp the two silos and kite us I switched to Sniper Rifle Landed a few kills and destroyed drop uplinks to try and get them off the silo Marginally won because the freaggin timer expired. you do realize that you can have more than 8 fittings?
Don't have any need for more than eight fittings and I only changed that one because I needed a sniper rifle -right then- and didn't have a fit set up for it.
More Fits = More BS to sort through in battle.
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LT SHANKS
You In The Nutz
5579
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Posted - 2015.04.02 00:26:00 -
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I tend to handle these type of situations with my Assault Mass Driver. You can keep to an elevated safe spot and rain down shells from quite a distance away. |
SgtMajSquish MLBJ
Consolidated Dust
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Posted - 2015.04.02 04:48:00 -
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Aeon Amadi wrote:SgtMajSquish MLBJ wrote:Aeon Amadi wrote:Like, dear god, I hated everything about this match... https://youtu.be/lJTiZfWXKX4?t=5m25sTL;DW - Ambush (no installations) one team decided to just camp the two silos and kite us I switched to Sniper Rifle Landed a few kills and destroyed drop uplinks to try and get them off the silo Marginally won because the freaggin timer expired. you do realize that you can have more than 8 fittings? Don't have any need for more than eight fittings and I only changed that one because I needed a sniper rifle -right then- and didn't have a fit set up for it. More Fits = More BS to sort through in battle. i usually label my fittings with a number at the beginning for priority. 0 or 1 for top usage and 2 down for less likely. prepared for any situation and never wasting time in a match refitting
CPMs should stop acting like they have power and remember their true position. Scapegoats for CCP
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Thaddeus Reynolds
Facepunch Security
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Posted - 2015.04.02 04:59:00 -
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Aeon Amadi wrote:Like, dear god, I hated everything about this match... https://youtu.be/lJTiZfWXKX4?t=5m25sTL;DW - Ambush (no installations) one team decided to just camp the two silos and kite us I switched to Sniper Rifle Landed a few kills and destroyed drop uplinks to try and get them off the silo Marginally won because the freaggin timer expired.
Yay that match -_-
Sniper switches all around...also I'M IN A YOUTUBE VIDEO!
also, sorry for stealing your kill there, was worried about them getting away...too much DOTA 2 right before DUST
Khanid Logi and Tanker, sometimes AV Heavy or Sniper.
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Super Sniper95
Negative-Feedback. Negative-Feedback
675
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Posted - 2015.04.02 05:25:00 -
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You should heard Kain on that last headshot you shoot.
He was like. 'I think he saw me, yep, oh wait no no, all right ill crouch, no here, yeah here, dude he saw me, f*ck f*ck f*ck F*CKKKKKK... He got me!
Aldo, +1800pr headshot damage? Dammmmn son.
'No dije que era malo dije que no era bueno'- Cx killer XDDD.
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bathtubist
TRUE SAVAGES Learning Alliance
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Posted - 2015.04.02 06:23:00 -
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Aeon Amadi wrote:Like, dear god, I hated everything about this match... https://youtu.be/lJTiZfWXKX4?t=5m25sTL;DW - Ambush (no installations) one team decided to just camp the two silos and kite us I switched to Sniper Rifle Landed a few kills and destroyed drop uplinks to try and get them off the silo Marginally won because the freaggin timer expired. A match of mine in AMB ended in 1min and 30 sec
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Jack Boost
Zarena Family
720
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Posted - 2015.04.02 08:29:00 -
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I think, they do best.
If this is anoying for you I can feel it, but... form tactical view:
- They successfuly create new conditions and enviroment for fight. - You loose camped city - they persuade your team to leave and go to open space... Good for them - Even more they persuade you to change fitiing.. even on battlefield!. Man, your only 8 fiitings was enough. Very good for them again - you must adapt and they successfuly catch you.
It is anoying? Maybe. But this is power of war. You must change to do best. Going only with one fiiting, again and again... with success is bad. You stop thinking and you start underestimate your enemy. This is sin
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Art_of_War Chapter IV, VI, VII, X , XIII ;)
Not much time left...
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SOGZ PANDA
WarRavens
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Posted - 2015.04.02 10:11:00 -
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And people laughed at me when i said putting in jump mods doesn't stop rooftop camping, that rooftop campers will always find a way to rooftop camp regardless of update lol
"Why should we make a story about you?"
"Cause I'm so f*ing good!"
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hold that
Capital Acquisitions LLC Bad Intention
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Posted - 2015.04.02 11:18:00 -
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stop watching when op spent a minute in the marketplace |
DiablosMajora
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Posted - 2015.04.02 11:44:00 -
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Sounds like a job for: Flux Artillery :^)
Prepare your angus
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Varoth Drac
Dead Man's Game RUST415
707
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Posted - 2015.04.02 12:10:00 -
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Looks like a great ambush to me, through granted it was kind of slow paced.
Interesting strategies and counter play. Sniper rifles actually being useful. Tense moments. Extremely close score. What's not to like?
I thought people liked the fact that Dust has more to it than just running around spraying bullets at each other. |
Aeon Amadi
Ahrendee Inc. Negative-Feedback
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Posted - 2015.04.02 13:04:00 -
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Thaddeus Reynolds wrote:
Yay that match -_-
Sniper switches all around...also I'M IN A YOUTUBE VIDEO!
also, sorry for stealing your kill there, was worried about them getting away...too much DOTA 2 right before DUST
I don't really get bent out of shape about kill stealing. Dude is dead, that's all I'm concerned about.
Super Sniper95 wrote:You should heard Kain on that last headshot you shoot.
He was like. 'I think he saw me, yep, oh wait no no, all right ill crouch, no here, yeah here, dude he saw me, f*ck f*ck f*ck F*CKKKKKK... He got me!
Also, +1800pr headshot damage? Dammmmn son.
Ooooh yeah, it was grudge match against Kane - yo. I figured he was the squad leader instigating all this so I had to put him down
hold that wrote:stop watching when op spent a minute in the marketplace
Happens when you make the sacrifice to have a reasonable number of fittings.
Varoth Drac wrote:Looks like a great ambush to me, through granted it was kind of slow paced.
Interesting strategies and counter play. Sniper rifles actually being useful. Tense moments. Extremely close score. What's not to like?
I thought people liked the fact that Dust has more to it than just running around spraying bullets at each other.
Don't get me wrong, I do like tense moments and close scores but when it starts to feel like you're the only one adapting to the situation it gets really irritating. I started off with the Cal Assault/AAR thinking that this little stalemate was going to get them to come forward because they had to have been just as bored as we were but when I saw Kane landing so many kills with the Laser Rifle I moved up.
Realized I couldn't get to them because they had the high ground and there weren't enough coming off the silo to kill so I suicided and switched to Sniper to go for Drop Uplinks and force them off.
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Varoth Drac
Dead Man's Game RUST415
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Posted - 2015.04.02 13:45:00 -
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They had so many links, perhaps you would have done better just going for kills. Though you did win.
Also, you weren't the only one on your team that adapted.
It's further proof that high ground camping doesn't always work. They were sitting ducks up there. No need to force them down. |
JJ'S
Krusual Covert Operators Minmatar Republic
61
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Posted - 2015.04.02 13:48:00 -
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LOOKMOM NOHANDS wrote:Aeon Amadi wrote:Like, dear god, I hated everything about this match... https://youtu.be/lJTiZfWXKX4?t=5m25sTL;DW - Ambush (no installations) one team decided to just camp the two silos and kite us I switched to Sniper Rifle Landed a few kills and destroyed drop uplinks to try and get them off the silo Marginally won because the freaggin timer expired. This is what the mini flux orbitals was meant to prevent. Too bad a flux grenade takes out more equipment than a mini flux orbital.
This.
We never wanted Mini orbitals to do damage to mercenaries.. The mere concept of doing tiny amounts of damage to a mercenaries shield after having to go through a 30 second transition to the UI and back to character control... Specially when the TTK is only a second or two.
We wanted Mini Orbitals so that they could be used strategically to remove Uplink farms... And keep matches progressing and maps dynamic... By nearly anyone that can gain 300 WP.
Instead we got a Orbital with massive Hit detection issues. |
8213
Blauhelme E.B.O.L.A.
2219
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Posted - 2015.04.02 19:50:00 -
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I played 3 matches against them yesterday in a hour. All three matches added up to 53 minutes of wasted time...
Ich mag Katzen :3
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The Dark Cloud
Negative-Feedback.
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Posted - 2015.04.02 20:29:00 -
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Thats what you get playing vs me. If you see me in a ambush i will allways jump with a cal. assault, 5 myos and uplinks to high ground. You had Kaizuka and his squad on your side so we decided to dictate the pace of the match in our favour. The match was really close and if you expected to lure us into the city compound and beating us with strafing shenanigans then i must dissapoint you.
Ambush is all about kill and not get killed. What i did represents perfectly that mentality. I knew that his squad allways has a scanner so it wouldnt take too long till they came at us. Enjoy the skill based matchmaking cause matches like that will happend ALOT more frequently.
I make the scrubs scream and the vets cry.
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Aeon Amadi
Ahrendee Inc. Negative-Feedback
9418
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Posted - 2015.04.02 22:04:00 -
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The Dark Cloud wrote:Thats what you get playing vs me. If you see me in a ambush i will allways jump with a cal. assault, 5 myos and uplinks to high ground. You had Kaizuka and his squad on your side so we decided to dictate the pace of the match in our favour. The match was really close and if you expected to lure us into the city compound and beating us with strafing shenanigans then i must dissapoint you.
Ambush is all about kill and not get killed. What i did represents perfectly that mentality. I knew that his squad allways has a scanner so it wouldnt take too long till they came at us. Enjoy the skill based matchmaking cause matches like that will happend ALOT more frequently.
-Shrug-
I'm a CQC Brawler by trade. I don't like long range engagements, never have. They're boring to me. It's like American Revolution Simulator 2015. Two lines just shoot at each other all day; nothing interesting about that.
I reserve the right to *****.
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Zepod
Titans of Phoenix
146
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Posted - 2015.04.02 22:27:00 -
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That video is a near-perfect example of what's wrong with this game's playerbase.
You may not like what I said, but it's true.
It might anger or offend you, but it's still true.
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CLONE117
True Pros Forever
897
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Posted - 2015.04.02 22:29:00 -
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ambush stomps usually are very terrible and last a min from the start.
only hope for survival would have been a tripple rep maddy from 1.7.
skirmish is a much better game mode but the stomps are still...horrible. but least you can hide in the redzone and hope you bore them to death.
if only we could pilot the mcc.
id end the matches real quick.
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Aeon Amadi
Ahrendee Inc. Negative-Feedback
9418
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Posted - 2015.04.02 22:35:00 -
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See, this is the thing that gets me...
Call of Duty: You -want- to go find the action, kill people, collect bacon. Battlefield: You -WANT- to go find the action, kill people, maaaaybe wait for a cool vehicle to do it. Planetside 2: You -kinda- wanna find the action but know it's going to be a 100v100 death match where the life expectancy is slim to nill.
Dust 514: You don't want to risk dying because of KDR or ISK or whatever the **** kinda reasoning so you chill in the redline, ontop of a roof, etc.
I always hate the "because other FPS games" argument but... I mean, come on.
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Indianna Pwns
Circle of Huskarl Minmatar Republic
71
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Posted - 2015.04.02 22:46:00 -
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Aeon Amadi wrote:See, this is the thing that gets me...
Call of Duty: You -want- to go find the action, kill people, collect bacon. Battlefield: You -WANT- to go find the action, kill people, maaaaybe wait for a cool vehicle to do it. Planetside 2: You -kinda- wanna find the action but know it's going to be a 100v100 death match where the life expectancy is slim to nill.
Dust 514: You don't want to risk dying because of KDR or ISK or whatever the **** kinda reasoning so you chill in the redline, ontop of a roof, etc.
I always hate the "because other FPS games" argument but... I mean, come on.
More like your team was full of CQC slayers decked out in full proto. Their is no right or wrong tactic, we chose the one that gave us a chance and not act like lambs to the slaughter like what happens in most ambushes. |
Onesimus Tarsus
is-a-Corporation
3220
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Posted - 2015.04.02 22:53:00 -
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Don't you hate it when people find ways to win ambush that don't involve daisy-chained hev-logis and shoutgun scouts with scanners?
KDR matchmaking fixes everything but the stupid purple Quafe stuff.
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Onesimus Tarsus
is-a-Corporation
3220
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Posted - 2015.04.02 22:55:00 -
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8213 wrote:I played 3 matches against them yesterday in a hour. All three matches added up to 53 minutes of wasted time... ... no matter what happened.
KDR matchmaking fixes everything but the stupid purple Quafe stuff.
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The Dark Cloud
Negative-Feedback.
4278
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Posted - 2015.04.03 01:11:00 -
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Aeon Amadi wrote:See, this is the thing that gets me...
Call of Duty: You -want- to go find the action, kill people, collect bacon. Battlefield: You -WANT- to go find the action, kill people, maaaaybe wait for a cool vehicle to do it. Planetside 2: You -kinda- wanna find the action but know it's going to be a 100v100 death match where the life expectancy is slim to nill.
Dust 514: You don't want to risk dying because of KDR or ISK or whatever the **** kinda reasoning so you chill in the redline, ontop of a roof, etc.
I always hate the "because other FPS games" argument but... I mean, come on. Ambush=TDM. Every death is a step closer to loosing the match. And you gotta admit that your team got cought by surprise when you saw every 1 sitting up there.
I make the scrubs scream and the vets cry.
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Vell0cet
OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention
2901
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Posted - 2015.04.03 01:37:00 -
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Aeon Amadi wrote:See, this is the thing that gets me...
Call of Duty: You -want- to go find the action, kill people, collect bacon. Battlefield: You -WANT- to go find the action, kill people, maaaaybe wait for a cool vehicle to do it. Planetside 2: You -kinda- wanna find the action but know it's going to be a 100v100 death match where the life expectancy is slim to nill.
Dust 514: You don't want to risk dying because of KDR or ISK or whatever the **** kinda reasoning so you chill in the redline, ontop of a roof, etc.
I always hate the "because other FPS games" argument but... I mean, come on. I disagree. The fact that players actually care about self-preservation makes combat feel more realistic. You have to make smart choices with plays and counter plays. The sniper rifle is the right counter for the current situation. Sneaking up on you was the correct counter to that tactic. I thought it was a more interesting match than the thousands of videos with people spamming clones at each other over and over in a mindless brawl.
Best PvE idea ever!
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