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Banjo Robertson Random Gunz Rise Of Legion. 502	Posted - 2015.03.30 21:22:00 - [1] - Quote Well this is all opinion based on my experiences so far in the game after the recent vehicle changes. But the large turrets are still too good at mowing down infantry. If there aren't some other mechanics that could be used that haven't already been tried to tone down the large turrets, why not try changing their damage effectiveness vs infantry so that its much lower than it is while still being able to do damage. Like.. large blasters and large missiles do 50% damage vs infantry. Kind of like how non-AV weapons deal very low % damage against vehicles.
DarthJT5 Random Gunz Rise Of Legion. 367	Posted - 2015.03.30 22:38:00 - [2] - Quote Banjo Robertson wrote: Well this is all opinion based on my experiences so far in the game after the recent vehicle changes. But the large turrets are still too good at mowing down infantry. If there aren't some other mechanics that could be used that haven't already been tried to tone down the large turrets, why not try changing their damage effectiveness vs infantry so that its much lower than it is while still being able to do damage. Like.. large blasters and large missiles do 50% damage vs infantry. Kind of like how non-AV weapons deal very low % damage against vehicles. But then, if HAV's aren't good at killing infantry..... Then wha IS the point in having a tank on the field? To blow up other tanks? But what's their purpose? Also blowing up tanks? If tanks aren't at least AS good at killing infantry as infantry are, then there's no point in having a tank. I would say they are about even right now. Tanks kill infantry that are in the open easily, but infantry can kill other infantry AND vehicles from literally anywhere... Dedicated Shield Tanking vet since Open Beta. Veteran Python Pilot for 1 year. The awnser is always XT missiles....
Breakin Stuff Goonfeet Special Planetary Emergency Response Group 7766	Posted - 2015.03.30 22:40:00 - [3] - Quote Banjo Robertson wrote: Well this is all opinion based on my experiences so far in the game after the recent vehicle changes. But the large turrets are still too good at mowing down infantry. If there aren't some other mechanics that could be used that haven't already been tried to tone down the large turrets, why not try changing their damage effectiveness vs infantry so that its much lower than it is while still being able to do damage. Like.. large blasters and large missiles do 50% damage vs infantry. Kind of like how non-AV weapons deal very low % damage against vehicles. quit trying to suck all the satisfaction out of torching the tanks for me. no, heavy turrets need to stay at full damage. AV
Banjo Robertson Random Gunz Rise Of Legion. 502	Posted - 2015.03.30 22:40:00 - [4] - Quote DarthJT5 wrote: Banjo Robertson wrote: Well this is all opinion based on my experiences so far in the game after the recent vehicle changes. But the large turrets are still too good at mowing down infantry. If there aren't some other mechanics that could be used that haven't already been tried to tone down the large turrets, why not try changing their damage effectiveness vs infantry so that its much lower than it is while still being able to do damage. Like.. large blasters and large missiles do 50% damage vs infantry. Kind of like how non-AV weapons deal very low % damage against vehicles. But then, if HAV's aren't good at killing infantry..... Then wha IS the point in having a tank on the field? To blow up other tanks? But what's their purpose? Also blowing up tanks? If tanks aren't at least AS good at killing infantry as infantry are, then there's no point in having a tank. I would say they are about even right now. Tanks kill infantry that are in the open easily, but infantry can kill other infantry AND vehicles from literally anywhere... Tanks with 2 small turrets and 1 large turret, small turrets mow down infantry, large turrets blow up other tanks, turret instalations, supply depots and CRU.
DarthJT5 Random Gunz Rise Of Legion. 367	Posted - 2015.03.30 22:46:00 - [5] - Quote Both then you need 3 people in a tank doing what 3 people running Proto suits could do BETTER at 1/3 the cost. As for the installation thing, that doesn't really matter because a) turrets can only kill infantry if manned by infantry, and b) they are all usually in terrible positions or in the red line, so they don't really help anyway. CRU and Supply Depots take AGES to destroy... Dedicated Shield Tanking vet since Open Beta. Veteran Python Pilot for 1 year. The awnser is always XT missiles....
True Adamance Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 17872	Posted - 2015.03.30 23:19:00 - [6] - Quote Again I find it hilarious that someone is trying to tell me a bolt of plasma several times larger than that of a Gallentean Plasma Rifle, which does full damage against enemy infantry, would somehow not apply all of its destructive force upon impact. Or Missiles...... or Railgun Slugs, all of which likely travel at a high enough velocity to scythe through light personal shield that infantry posses and that somehow these shield can do what the significantly more powerful shield and armour composites used on vehicles cannot. Raphael: I'm warning you. Do not leave me here. I will find you. Castiel: Maybe one day. Today you're my little bitch
Imp Smash Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance 753	Posted - 2015.03.30 23:43:00 - [7] - Quote Banjo Robertson wrote: DarthJT5 wrote: Banjo Robertson wrote: Well this is all opinion based on my experiences so far in the game after the recent vehicle changes. But the large turrets are still too good at mowing down infantry. If there aren't some other mechanics that could be used that haven't already been tried to tone down the large turrets, why not try changing their damage effectiveness vs infantry so that its much lower than it is while still being able to do damage. Like.. large blasters and large missiles do 50% damage vs infantry. Kind of like how non-AV weapons deal very low % damage against vehicles. But then, if HAV's aren't good at killing infantry..... Then wha IS the point in having a tank on the field? To blow up other tanks? But what's their purpose? Also blowing up tanks? If tanks aren't at least AS good at killing infantry as infantry are, then there's no point in having a tank. I would say they are about even right now. Tanks kill infantry that are in the open easily, but infantry can kill other infantry AND vehicles from literally anywhere... Tanks with 2 small turrets and 1 large turret, small turrets mow down infantry, large turrets blow up other tanks, turret instalations, supply depots and CRU. But this suggestion is just you applying your philosophy on what 'combat should be' to the game. You haven't said how the implementation of large blasters is game breaking or unfair. Personally I would argue that it makes NO sense for large blasters to suck at killing infantry -- and until there is a solid gamebreaking reason for it, a change is unneeded.
Miokai Zahou WarRavens 456	Posted - 2015.03.31 02:39:00 - [8] - Quote Banjo Robertson wrote: Well this is all opinion based on my experiences so far in the game after the recent vehicle changes. But the large turrets are still too good at mowing down infantry. If there aren't some other mechanics that could be used that haven't already been tried to tone down the large turrets, why not try changing their damage effectiveness vs infantry so that its much lower than it is while still being able to do damage. Like.. large blasters and large missiles do 50% damage vs infantry. Kind of like how non-AV weapons deal very low % damage against vehicles. Hahahaha..... Hahahaha...! No. Noob isn't really a status, it's the online equivalent of a 5-year old calling you a poopy fart head. pâ+(n+ƒ-ön+ƒ)n+ë
The Dark Cloud Negative-Feedback. 4238	Posted - 2015.03.31 04:01:00 - [9] - Quote In my opinion HAV's vs infantry is working out nicely at the moment. What does not work is shield vs armor HAV's. Cause i havent found a decent shield tank that could survive a encounter vs a armor tank. I make the scrubs scream and the vets cry.
True Adamance Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 17881	Posted - 2015.03.31 04:03:00 - [10] - Quote The Dark Cloud wrote: In my opinion HAV's vs infantry is working out nicely at the moment. What does not work is shield vs armor HAV's. Cause i havent found a decent shield tank that could survive a encounter vs a armor tank. Are you finding Shield HAV better for Anti Infantry Gameplay or Armour HAV? I know they are both effective but often times I feel like the ability to manipulate my HP actively is a real boon over the passive armour repairs Madrugars would rely on. Raphael: I'm warning you. Do not leave me here. I will find you. Castiel: Maybe one day. Today you're my little bitch

Shamarskii Simon The Hundred Acre Hood Rise Of Legion. 254	Posted - 2015.03.31 10:38:00 - [11] - Quote How bout weapons do 50% damage to the tank. does it feel fair Now? Entering the void and becoming wind. Message for 1v1 air to air
Takahiro Kashuken Red Star. 4421	Posted - 2015.03.31 12:24:00 - [12] - Quote A railgun only kills you if it is a direct hit. Large missiles have no splash and a 6ft missile the size of a scout does no damage to a scout unless it is direct hit. Blaster has replaced accuracy with luck and you can bunny hop in a sentinal suit and not get hit. It has never been easier to avoid getting hit with a turret. Disclaimer: The above post is respectful, contains no ranting, contains no personal attacks, contains no trolling, contains no racism, contains no discrimination, contains no profanity, contains no spamming. This post is an opinion and is related to DUST514 CCP Rattati - "One giant vehicle nerf with more power to AV", you have got to be kidding...''
Spkr4theDead Red Star. 3151	Posted - 2015.03.31 17:22:00 - [13] - Quote Banjo Robertson wrote: Well this is all opinion based on my experiences so far in the game after the recent vehicle changes. But the large turrets are still too good at mowing down infantry. If there aren't some other mechanics that could be used that haven't already been tried to tone down the large turrets, why not try changing their damage effectiveness vs infantry so that its much lower than it is while still being able to do damage. Like.. large blasters and large missiles do 50% damage vs infantry. Kind of like how non-AV weapons deal very low % damage against vehicles. Sounds like your "experience" entails running across the road without looking both ways. Nope. Confirming that pilot input is not, and never was, valued. - Breakin Stuff
Derpty Derp Dead Man's Game 964	Posted - 2015.03.31 17:26:00 - [14] - Quote The simple fact that I'd rather use a large blaster turret to mow down infantry, than switch to one of many small turrets, is proof enough for me, that the large turrets are still too good at infantry slaying. I still mostly run rails/missiles though, switching to small rails (now that small blasters are complete poop.)
True Adamance Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 17887	Posted - 2015.03.31 20:14:00 - [15] - Quote Derpty Derp wrote: The simple fact that I'd rather use a large blaster turret to mow down infantry, than switch to one of many small turrets, is proof enough for me, that the large turrets are still too good at infantry slaying. I still mostly run rails/missiles though, switching to small rails (now that small blasters are complete poop.) Then our rounds need to fire slower and have significant explosive force....y'know like every other tank in every game....ever.... Raphael: I'm warning you. Do not leave me here. I will find you. Castiel: Maybe one day. Today you're my little bitch
Thaddeus Reynolds Facepunch Security 241	Posted - 2015.03.31 20:18:00 - [16] - Quote True Adamance wrote: Derpty Derp wrote: The simple fact that I'd rather use a large blaster turret to mow down infantry, than switch to one of many small turrets, is proof enough for me, that the large turrets are still too good at infantry slaying. I still mostly run rails/missiles though, switching to small rails (now that small blasters are complete poop.) Then our rounds need to fire slower and have significant explosive force....y'know like every other tank in every game....ever.... Did someone Call for the Shotung/PLC/Shotgun-PLC Large Blaster Turret Change Crowd? Khanid Logi and Tanker, sometimes AV Heavy or Sniper. Vehicle Re-vamp Proposal
True Adamance Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 17888	Posted - 2015.03.31 20:19:00 - [17] - Quote Thaddeus Reynolds wrote: True Adamance wrote: Derpty Derp wrote: The simple fact that I'd rather use a large blaster turret to mow down infantry, than switch to one of many small turrets, is proof enough for me, that the large turrets are still too good at infantry slaying. I still mostly run rails/missiles though, switching to small rails (now that small blasters are complete poop.) Then our rounds need to fire slower and have significant explosive force....y'know like every other tank in every game....ever.... Did someone Call for the Shotung/PLC/Shotgun-PLC Large Blaster Turret Change Crowd? YAY! Back in business! Raphael: I'm warning you. Do not leave me here. I will find you. Castiel: Maybe one day. Today you're my little bitch
Thaddeus Reynolds Facepunch Security 242	Posted - 2015.03.31 20:33:00 - [18] - Quote True Adamance wrote: Thaddeus Reynolds wrote: True Adamance wrote: Derpty Derp wrote: The simple fact that I'd rather use a large blaster turret to mow down infantry, than switch to one of many small turrets, is proof enough for me, that the large turrets are still too good at infantry slaying. I still mostly run rails/missiles though, switching to small rails (now that small blasters are complete poop.) Then our rounds need to fire slower and have significant explosive force....y'know like every other tank in every game....ever.... Did someone Call for the Shotung/PLC/Shotgun-PLC Large Blaster Turret Change Crowd? YAY! Back in business! Now we just need a thread about them that Rattati Senpai notices XD Khanid Logi and Tanker, sometimes AV Heavy or Sniper. Vehicle Re-vamp Proposal
True Adamance Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 17890	Posted - 2015.03.31 20:41:00 - [19] - Quote Thaddeus Reynolds wrote: True Adamance wrote: Thaddeus Reynolds wrote: True Adamance wrote: Derpty Derp wrote: The simple fact that I'd rather use a large blaster turret to mow down infantry, than switch to one of many small turrets, is proof enough for me, that the large turrets are still too good at infantry slaying. I still mostly run rails/missiles though, switching to small rails (now that small blasters are complete poop.) Then our rounds need to fire slower and have significant explosive force....y'know like every other tank in every game....ever.... Did someone Call for the Shotung/PLC/Shotgun-PLC Large Blaster Turret Change Crowd? YAY! Back in business! Now we just need a thread about them that Rattati Senpai notices XD Been practising my Yandere Raphael: I'm warning you. Do not leave me here. I will find you. Castiel: Maybe one day. Today you're my little bitch
Thaddeus Reynolds Facepunch Security 243	Posted - 2015.03.31 20:48:00 - [20] - Quote True Adamance wrote: Thaddeus Reynolds wrote: True Adamance wrote: Thaddeus Reynolds wrote: True Adamance wrote: Then our rounds need to fire slower and have significant explosive force....y'know like every other tank in every game....ever.... Did someone Call for the Shotung/PLC/Shotgun-PLC Large Blaster Turret Change Crowd? YAY! Back in business! Now we just need a thread about them that Rattati Senpai notices XD Been practising my Yandere That's good...I don't think I could pull off a Tsundere approach... I mean "It's not like I made this spreadsheet just for you...Baka" doesn't exactly seem like it would work Khanid Logi and Tanker, sometimes AV Heavy or Sniper. Vehicle Re-vamp Proposal

KEROSIINI-TERO The Rainbow Effect 1907	Posted - 2015.04.02 17:26:00 - [21] - Quote Banjo Robertson wrote: Well this is all opinion based on my experiences so far in the game after the recent vehicle changes. But the large turrets are still too good at mowing down infantry. If there aren't some other mechanics that could be used that haven't already been tried to tone down the large turrets, why not try changing their damage effectiveness vs infantry so that its much lower than it is while still being able to do damage. Like.. large blasters and large missiles do 50% damage vs infantry. Kind of like how non-AV weapons deal very low % damage against vehicles. Only non-evading infantry are easy kills for tank turrets. Looking at both sides of the coin. Even Aurum one.
Godin Thekiller Negative-Feedback. Negative-Feedback 3017	Posted - 2015.04.03 01:23:00 - [22] - Quote Banjo Robertson wrote: DarthJT5 wrote: Banjo Robertson wrote: Well this is all opinion based on my experiences so far in the game after the recent vehicle changes. But the large turrets are still too good at mowing down infantry. If there aren't some other mechanics that could be used that haven't already been tried to tone down the large turrets, why not try changing their damage effectiveness vs infantry so that its much lower than it is while still being able to do damage. Like.. large blasters and large missiles do 50% damage vs infantry. Kind of like how non-AV weapons deal very low % damage against vehicles. But then, if HAV's aren't good at killing infantry..... Then wha IS the point in having a tank on the field? To blow up other tanks? But what's their purpose? Also blowing up tanks? If tanks aren't at least AS good at killing infantry as infantry are, then there's no point in having a tank. I would say they are about even right now. Tanks kill infantry that are in the open easily, but infantry can kill other infantry AND vehicles from literally anywhere... Tanks with 2 small turrets and 1 large turret, small turrets mow down infantry, large turrets blow up other tanks, turret instalations, supply depots and CRU. I want you to hop in a Maddy with a blaster and try to reasonably kill SD's and CRU's in a reasonable time, for the entire match. click me Blup Blub Bloop. Translation: Die -_-


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