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Maken Tosch
Dust University
Ivy League
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Posted - 2015.03.30 00:21:00 -
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I see what you mean. If we're going to separate players in pub matches based on the gear that the have, it will have to be based on the max allowable meta level (in terms of sum) instead of tier. It's easier that way, allows for flexibility of the fittings in that match and it doesn't allow certain suits (APEX or their Faction Warfare variants) to be able to circumvent the system.
EDIT:
Just ask yourself. Do anyone really need an APEX suit in a low-meta match where most suits are likely to be weak and cheap that perhaps a MLT fit can do better anyways?
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Maken Tosch
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Posted - 2015.03.30 00:30:00 -
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Mexxx Dust-Slayer wrote:The Dark Cloud wrote:LUGMOS wrote:The Dark Cloud wrote:LUGMOS wrote:You will be able to use them in pubs, just in the higher tiers. Tiers? Like what? FW? Yeah good luck with that. Tell that the apex buyers they will burn you like a witch. Oh, so you want to use a suit that is clearly better than standard and is completely free in a standard meta environment? Tell that to people who want balanced matches and they'll burn you like a witch. i dont have any apex suits. Just find this little fact hillarious. I think by tiers he meant there'd a few pub meta lockout levels, maybe 3 for example meta level lockout of 50 would be mlt to standard, then another mode with meta lockout 90 which would be for apex suits to adv, then an unlimited 1 for full proto.
You know, I wonder. What would be the max sums of the meta levels for low-level, medium-level, and high-level matches? Which fittings would we base the max meta levels on?
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Maken Tosch
Dust University
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Posted - 2015.03.30 01:12:00 -
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Archduke Ferd1nand wrote:If they have a max total meta level vs. max avg meta level, Im going to be very, very upset.
Avg. meta level makes it so that logis aren't screwed over, and sentinels don't become completely spammed.
AVG meta level restriction number wise should be ~4, which is pretty much a full ADV fit suit.
Let's assume that using an average is the right way to do it. What would you recommend as the baseline average of the meta level for lockout?
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Maken Tosch
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Posted - 2015.03.30 02:31:00 -
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CCP Rattati wrote:There is a reason matchmaking is being worked on first. Meta level lockout for me is a choice for me to say "low risk low reward", choose a low metalevel bracket (low sec if academy is high sec), and free for all is 0.0 with Planetary Conquest.
Meta level lockout as designed was a sum of all fittings approach, not "STD gear only" approach, also for a reason.
Interesting.
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Maken Tosch
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Posted - 2015.03.30 02:49:00 -
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Archduke Ferd1nand wrote:Maken Tosch wrote:Archduke Ferd1nand wrote:If they have a max total meta level vs. max avg meta level, Im going to be very, very upset.
Avg. meta level makes it so that logis aren't screwed over, and sentinels don't become completely spammed.
AVG meta level restriction number wise should be ~4, which is pretty much a full ADV fit suit. Let's assume that using an average is the right way to do it. What would you recommend as the baseline average of the meta level for lockout? Right in my post. 3.5 would be a fairly good avg. for the typical pub, which allows for a fully fit ADV suit, or ADV suit with some proto mods but basic weapons, etc.
Thanks. I completely missed that part of the post. Sorry.
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