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Heimdallr69
Negative-Feedback.
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Posted - 2015.03.26 00:11:00 -
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Good luck.. Dust doesn't have the playerbase for this..also no one wants to wait 30 minutes a match, punish all non American players is all this would do.. Now if the playerbase grows then sure but right now like 2k on at a time? Good luck finding a match not on American servers.
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Mejt0
Dead Man's Game RUST415
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Posted - 2015.03.26 00:25:00 -
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Ping/latency limited battles would solve this. It should be high to eliminate the most lagging players. Playerbase is too small to eliminate every lagger out there.
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Joel II X
Bacon with a bottle of Quafe
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Posted - 2015.03.26 00:35:00 -
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Please no. I need my crutch. I love it when my p Plasma Cannon doesn't shoot even after I try 5 times. Don't do this. |
JJ'S
Krusual Covert Operators Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2015.03.26 00:46:00 -
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Most people are oblivious on these forums and equate this to "Latency" based Lagg.... Which it isn't.
CCP's servers ping well, and most people ping well to CCP's servers.
Where we have trouble is when our PS3 Client and CCP's servers start having to share and update information between each other. While adding the complexity of having the same problem going on with the enemy your fighting.
Often when you shoot an enemy on your client.. That enemy is standing in a different spot on the Server... And then standing in even more a different spot on that enemies PS3 client. This huge "Lagg" on Server/client updating...
Is what a majority of the "Lagg" that people complain about in DUST is.
It is terrible Server/client updating issues due to challenged net code.
So you see an enemy in one place... The server places it slightly in a different spot, and the enemies client is updating the position with a delay to which the server is updating your client with a delay... When you finally fire... The server then uses a Math algorithm and largely "Predicts"(Fancy word for Guess) the outcome of the confrontation.
Which largely has the feeling as if a Dice was thrown into the air to determine the victor.. Which in most cases it was. |
Sequal's Back
Dead Man's Game RUST415
496
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Posted - 2015.03.26 01:15:00 -
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Derpty Derp wrote:Bring in a new server for people using the 'automatic server' option, while everyone else can only select their own.
Problem solved, although it would just be nice if the game ran a little less horribly when mixing regions, plenty of other games aren't this bad when joining people from all over the world. He said it all^^
Fix the game before trying to add anything else.
(Hint: hit detection, lags, glitches,.. you've got some work :) )
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Raptor Princess
ALLOTEC INC
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Posted - 2015.03.26 01:58:00 -
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Dreis Shadowweaver wrote:Raptor Princess wrote:
Can't everyone stay on their own selected server when in a squad? Surely that would help with the ping enormously?
That would be impossible. The battle is held on only one region's server.
Sequal's Back wrote:Derpty Derp wrote:Bring in a new server for people using the 'automatic server' option, while everyone else can only select their own.
Problem solved, although it would just be nice if the game ran a little less horribly when mixing regions, plenty of other games aren't this bad when joining people from all over the world. He said it all^^ Edit: It needs a bit more detail actually. When a squad gets composed by players comming from different regions, they are automatically sent in a "World wild" server made specifically for that purpose. So if I want to play with american players, I'll have to pick this server. Otherwise I will always be on the EU server.
This is basically what I thought was happening at the moment (which I thought was the reason for seeing more Dust America and Latino corps in matches when I was in squads (with American corp mates, but with me as squad lead using the European server) |
KA24DERT
TeamPlayers Negative-Feedback
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Posted - 2015.03.26 02:33:00 -
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CCP's battle servers themselves are probably fine, they host with Hypernia, and it looks like they have a decent resume. Those servers are going to ping as well as physics allows, and they're performing as fast as whatever CCP is paying for.
An Unreal based FPS with a properly configured client and server takes care of just about all the issues you're talking about. In the usual situation, higher ping players are at a disadvantage.
The problem is that CCP needs a few iterations of tuning over connection related variables on the server and client side.
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CommanderBolt
KILL-EM-QUICK Rise Of Legion.
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Posted - 2015.03.26 18:49:00 -
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Dreis Shadowweaver wrote:Raptor Princess wrote:CommanderBolt wrote:I love having great battles on the EU servers vs other EU players. Its one of the main reasons why I play solo most of the time. I totally get why people love to play with corp squads, alliance squads etc.. but when you start visiting different regions or ping and latency start becoming a huge issue in the match, its both unfair and not fun to play like that. If someone is set to (for example) America server and is in a squad with someone set to another region's server, wouldn't they still be pinging off the American one? You would be playing on the Squad Lead's selected server.
This. Most corp squads in KEQ are hosted on the American servers and me being in the UK, well lets just say I have varying degrees of lag depending on who is hosting, where they are from, who else is in the battle and where are they from etc.......
Would rather wait a few mins and get a local and low ping game.
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DIX RFOR CHICKS
T.U.R.D. R.O.C.K.
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Posted - 2015.03.26 19:41:00 -
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ReGnYuM wrote:#KeepAmericanSeversAmerican
#EuroConnection
#SayNo2AsianLag
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Joseph Ridgeson
WarRavens
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Posted - 2015.03.26 19:54:00 -
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Some of these posts are shockingly xenophobic.
Must be those goddamned Gallente bastards.
"This is B.S! This is B.S! I paid money! Cash money, dollars money, cash money!"
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CLONE117
True Pros Forever
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Posted - 2015.03.26 20:33:00 -
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8213 wrote:But when is ping and hit detection going to be corrected?
Ping is easily fixed by region locking players in Pub and FW matches. Sorry Mex0Dust Slayer, Extasy Craving, Kaizuka, and lolSaxonmish, etc, but players from 3-5 separate continents shouldn't e able to play in the same matches, and players shouldn't be given the option to choose a server that's 12,000km away. Each region has a plentiful playerbase to choose from. Either long ping players are easy kills because their hit boxes are on the screen 4 places at once, or they simply take minuscule damage because rendering is not lined up.
Hit-detection I feel is a matter of just slow software. The game cannot calculate damage and position fast enough. This is why explosives are quickly turning into the 50% of the killfeed, because marksmanship is just not a practical logic. You can have the best shot in the world, but firing "blanks" does nobody any good. It's very evident with weapons such as FGs and Railgun Turrets. If firing at a long ping opponent, you'll find huge discrepancy. Such as your shots slowing down to crawl speed and floating across the map, or shot firing 1-2 seconds after you ceased fire.
What made me think of the slow software was sometimes I'll fire my SCR at someone. I'll fire a single charge shot, and will do about 50dmg to a players shields. This is why some matches it takes entire clips to destroy an enemy, and sometimes it takes so few rounds that you may over-fire your weapon.
I'm tired of needing to use core nades to equal out a bad PvP logic code. I implore you CCP to correct these issues as your main objective. Players simply cannot have fun when the game mechanics are this badly broken. And, naive new players are dying in mass to these faults and leaving the game before they even get started.
when the lav gunner can efficiently get kills while moving without much trouble.
will probably be the day the gameplay gets a little better.
if only we could pilot the mcc.
id end the matches real quick.
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Happy Violentime
OMFGZOMBIESRUN
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Posted - 2015.03.26 22:32:00 -
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One game I shot an assault twice in the back, only the first shot registered, they ran away from me, after about 30 metres there was a blue shield flash... +50 |
Gemini Cuspid
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Posted - 2015.03.27 01:10:00 -
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LOOKMOM NOHANDS wrote:Maybe we should just close down all but the america servers and enlarge players hit box relative to their ping.
This is just as dumb as region locking so why not? Or maybe if CCP didn't take nearly 2 years to get this game out of Beta then a lot of players would actually play this game, CCP would've been profitable earlier and the pool of players in each region would make servers for each region more desirable. Then again they really slacked off on their first year and did nothing. |
8213
Blauhelme E.B.O.L.A.
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Posted - 2015.03.27 14:58:00 -
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Gemini Cuspid wrote:LOOKMOM NOHANDS wrote:Maybe we should just close down all but the america servers and enlarge players hit box relative to their ping.
This is just as dumb as region locking so why not? Or maybe if CCP didn't take nearly 2 years to get this game out of Beta then a lot of players would actually play this game, CCP would've been profitable earlier and the pool of players in each region would make servers for each region more desirable. Then again they really slacked off on their first year and did nothing.
Nailed it. I really like how much work has been overtaken to the game, after Fanfest 2014. Rattattiattititati has done a lot, with less recsources. I may not like the changes, but at least he put changes into place and content has been updated. If CCP was capable of doing this all along, why didn't they do so in the first place? It's a bittersweet ordeal.
Quite frankly, most of the defects in this game came from rushing. Holes in the maps, the latency problem, the lack of content, etc. Most of the playerbase has left this game. More people have quit the game than are playing it. The old greats that are slowly sinking on the leaderboards aren't coming back, because CCP rushed out a large bitter pill, that eventually most player became sick of swallowing.
I would love for them to just focus on core mechanics for the next 6 months. I really think that would bring life back into the game. Because the steeper than usual learning curve is much more difficult when you're facing practically immortal enemies
I know what 32 people are doing at once. Trick is, I really only need to pay attention to 31...
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Darken-Sol
BIG BAD W0LVES
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Posted - 2015.03.27 23:26:00 -
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8213 wrote:Gemini Cuspid wrote:LOOKMOM NOHANDS wrote:Maybe we should just close down all but the america servers and enlarge players hit box relative to their ping.
This is just as dumb as region locking so why not? Or maybe if CCP didn't take nearly 2 years to get this game out of Beta then a lot of players would actually play this game, CCP would've been profitable earlier and the pool of players in each region would make servers for each region more desirable. Then again they really slacked off on their first year and did nothing. Nailed it. I really like how much work has been overtaken to the game, after Fanfest 2014. Rattattiattititati has done a lot, with less recsources. I may not like the changes, but at least he put changes into place and content has been updated. If CCP was capable of doing this all along, why didn't they do so in the first place? It's a bittersweet ordeal. Quite frankly, most of the defects in this game came from rushing. Holes in the maps, the latency problem, the lack of content, etc. Most of the playerbase has left this game. More people have quit the game than are playing it. The old greats that are slowly sinking on the leaderboards aren't coming back, because CCP rushed out a large bitter pill, that eventually most player became sick of swallowing. I would love for them to just focus on core mechanics for the next 6 months. I really think that would bring life back into the game. Because the steeper than usual learning curve is much more difficult when you're facing practically immortal enemies
And immoral enemies.
Crush them
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VALCORE72
Dead Man's Game RUST415
250
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Posted - 2015.03.28 00:55:00 -
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have to play on eu server cause asians have ruined us servers . |
Jonny D Buelle
Mors Effera
722
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Posted - 2015.03.28 00:59:00 -
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I don't know if anyone has said this but I will.
I'm f*cked off that you think us Oceanic players have a choice to play on our own servers. Our server was shut down because other people were using it to farm for isk and sp. That and our player base was the lowest out of the rest of the servers. The only place I can go for a decent match is the American servers. And I'm here to stay so get used to it.
I find your lack of heaviness... disturbing...
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CHET CHEWS
Titans of Phoenix
47
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Posted - 2015.03.28 01:08:00 -
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LOL true, but in this past patch ive been lagging on some maps that never lag so i think something is wrong with the game idk maybe servers are f'ing up
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SgtMajSquish MLBJ
Consolidated Dust
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Posted - 2015.03.28 01:22:00 -
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Its almost like i used to have this as my F*CKING signature and have been complaining about this for months. F*cking christ.
CPMs should stop acting like they have power and remember their true position. Scapegoats for CCP
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Flyingconejo
Onikanabo Brigade Caldari State
1166
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Posted - 2015.03.28 01:37:00 -
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There is no South-American server, so send any complains to CCP. Also, this:
Alena Ventrallis wrote:So I can no longer play with my friends because they live in a different part of the world? F*ck that noise.
The Dark Cloud wrote:At some times the other regions are like a barren wasteland and active players dont want to search for half an hour to get into a match. Thats why some people switch their server settings to get into matches faster and lag is a double edged sword. It can work against you or in your favour. If you are lagging bad its not a uncommon thing to be shot when you jumped into cover. There are 2 worlds:
1. The game how you see it on your PS3 2. The game how somebody else sees you on his PS3
So reasonable and no mention to third world internet?
Does the real Dark Cloud know that you hacked his account? |
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SOGZ PANDA
Expert Intervention Caldari State
73
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Posted - 2015.03.28 03:42:00 -
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Minmatar Mercenary 9292 wrote:8213 wrote: Each region has a plentiful playerbase to choose from.
Sure I'll go play on my own server....oh wait, you dickheads ruined it all by AFKing on it and now it's gone, well have fun dealing with our terrible ping that is such a huge advantage for us, may we have many fun and prosperous games in your home server. Yours sincerely, the oceanic playerbase.
You have no idea how much i love this statement lol enjoy our ping everyone!!
"Why should we make a story about you?"
"Cause I'm so f*ing good!"
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Jonny D Buelle
Mors Effera
732
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Posted - 2015.03.28 04:04:00 -
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SOGZ PANDA wrote:Minmatar Mercenary 9292 wrote:8213 wrote: Each region has a plentiful playerbase to choose from.
Sure I'll go play on my own server....oh wait, you dickheads ruined it all by AFKing on it and now it's gone, well have fun dealing with our terrible ping that is such a huge advantage for us, may we have many fun and prosperous games in your home server. Yours sincerely, the oceanic playerbase. You have no idea how much i love this statement lol enjoy our ping everyone!!
Us Oceanic players have finally gotten our revenge for what you did to our server!
I find your lack of heaviness... disturbing...
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Mortishai Belmont
G.L.O.R.Y General Tso's Alliance
671
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Posted - 2015.03.28 04:11:00 -
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I would really love it if they did, but the fact of the mater is there are just not enough people playing dust anymore. So until there is a rise in the player base everyone needs to be pooled up together.
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8213
Blauhelme E.B.O.L.A.
2193
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Posted - 2015.03.28 05:13:00 -
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Flyingconejo wrote:There is no South-American server, so send any complains to CCP. Also, this: Alena Ventrallis wrote:So I can no longer play with my friends because they live in a different part of the world? F*ck that noise. The Dark Cloud wrote:At some times the other regions are like a barren wasteland and active players dont want to search for half an hour to get into a match. Thats why some people switch their server settings to get into matches faster and lag is a double edged sword. It can work against you or in your favour. If you are lagging bad its not a uncommon thing to be shot when you jumped into cover. There are 2 worlds:
1. The game how you see it on your PS3 2. The game how somebody else sees you on his PS3
So reasonable and no mention to third world internet? Does the real Dark Cloud know that you hacked his account?
tdc is quite honestly has one of the highest DUST I.Q. of about anyone in this game
I know what 32 people are doing at once. Trick is, I really only need to pay attention to 31...
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Blake Kingston
Sinq Laison Gendarmes Gallente Federation
214
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Posted - 2015.03.28 05:18:00 -
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I think CCP should explain that the game does not use peer to peer connections - because they are so disgustingly easy to hack. The main server records where you are and if your signal to run around the corner does not get to the server fast, it means you stand out in the open while on the client you are around the corner. And you die.
People thinking there's some peer to peer lag thats making the problem gets boring to listen to. There may be a collision issue, but it's not because someones got a bad connection. That just makes them a less effective player. |
Blake Kingston
Sinq Laison Gendarmes Gallente Federation
215
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Posted - 2015.03.28 05:21:00 -
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8213 wrote:Flyingconejo wrote:There is no South-American server, so send any complains to CCP. Also, this: Alena Ventrallis wrote:So I can no longer play with my friends because they live in a different part of the world? F*ck that noise. The Dark Cloud wrote:At some times the other regions are like a barren wasteland and active players dont want to search for half an hour to get into a match. Thats why some people switch their server settings to get into matches faster and lag is a double edged sword. It can work against you or in your favour. If you are lagging bad its not a uncommon thing to be shot when you jumped into cover. There are 2 worlds:
1. The game how you see it on your PS3 2. The game how somebody else sees you on his PS3
So reasonable and no mention to third world internet? Does the real Dark Cloud know that you hacked his account? tdc is quite honestly has one of the highest DUST I.Q. of about anyone in this game Well that said |
Lorhak Gannarsein
Nos Nothi
4483
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Posted - 2015.03.28 06:52:00 -
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Minmatar Mercenary 9292 wrote:8213 wrote: Each region has a plentiful playerbase to choose from.
Sure I'll go play on my own server....oh wait, you dickheads ruined it all by AFKing on it and now it's gone, well have fun dealing with our terrible ping that is such a huge advantage for us, may we have many fun and prosperous games in your home server. Yours sincerely, the oceanic playerbase. this, fuck y'all.
Guys, we need to stop calling MU a 'matchmaker' when it's actually a 'teambuilder'.
And I want to play FE:A now. Damn.
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Flyingconejo
Onikanabo Brigade Caldari State
1167
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Posted - 2015.03.28 16:02:00 -
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8213 wrote:Flyingconejo wrote:The Dark Cloud wrote:snip
So reasonable and no mention to third world internet? Does the real Dark Cloud know that you hacked his account? tdc is quite honestly has one of the highest DUST I.Q. of about anyone in this game
- I actually agreed with him.
- On an unrelated note, Dust's playerbase I.Q. is so particularly low that it has no real merit to be in the top 1%. I mean, we all played Dust, right? We can't be that smart. Also one person can be very smart for some things, and very stupid for others. One thing does not preclude the other.
- To understand my post you would have to have followed the love/hate relationship TDC has had with the Spanish community since the start of the close Beta. In the old days his post would have been very different. Glad to see it wasn't, hence my comment. |
8213
Blauhelme E.B.O.L.A.
2197
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Posted - 2015.03.28 16:15:00 -
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Truth, I don't really play casually w/ tdc, and often I send him hatemail because I hate TRE In PCs we always had perfect team work when he was a pilot. But from what I gather, he hates everything. Which is probably why I respect him so much.
But, back from the d-strokin' session. I really think CCP needs to address this issue and have some sort of stance. Even if it's something I personally may not agree with. #Wait4BlueTag #Hastag #RegCOPYCAT
Ich mag Katzen :3
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8213
Blauhelme E.B.O.L.A.
2216
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Posted - 2015.04.01 20:21:00 -
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Yup a matchmaking hotfix
Ich mag Katzen :3
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