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Tread Loudly 2
Ametat Security
Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2015.03.25 04:16:00 -
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From what I've been reading a lot of AV players think that an HAV should be easily solo'd. Why is that? I mean I've been wondering why people want tanks to be pieces of paper for a while.
I may sound like a bit of a vehicle supremacist but I've but nearly all of my SP into them so that'd make sense. However I still have proto AV, I enjoy running in a dropsuit as well... I just don't complain when I can't solo a tank with my AV fit...
Just curious, please post responses in a critical manner :D thank you and have a nice day
I Like Tanks, Nova Knives and MagSec SMG's.
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Tread Loudly 2
Ametat Security
Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2015.03.25 04:52:00 -
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Boot Booter wrote:AV doesn't want to easily solo tanks they just want balance. Currently proto armor tanks are back to dominating infantry. Keep in mind that when you AV you have to deal with other infantry as well as the blaster turrets which insta pops anything. Even if you manage to get close to killing a tank, half the time they can just run away and leave you standing there like an idiot with nothing to do.
My solution would be to slow tanks down so they can't easily run but also give them a huge buff in hp. I don't like this current tank hit and run philosophy.
The way I'd hope for tanks to be re-worked is for there to be 3 different classes.
These being
1st. Low HP, High Speed, and High Damage (Easily solo'd if on the front-lines due to low HP)
2nd. Med HP, Med Speed, and Med Damage (Should take 1-2 people varying on skill differentiation)
3rd. High HP, Low Speed, and Med Damage (2-3 depending on the situation but rarely should ever be able to KO'd)
Now dropships, as much as I love them, they shouldn't be able to sustain fire from any type of AV, whether it be Forge guns or Swarms. However they should be able to get the hell out of dodge when needed and maybe even give them a way of getting rid of AV such as swarms by using flares.
LAV's... Well they speak for themselves. Easily solo'd under sustained fire. However they need more utility than just tranportation. Re-worked logi LAV's would be a great thing to have again.
I Like Tanks, Nova Knives and MagSec SMG's.
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Tread Loudly 2
Ametat Security
Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2015.03.25 14:33:00 -
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Bar Be wrote:Tread Loudly 2 wrote:From what I've been reading a lot of AV players think that an HAV should be easily solo'd. Why is that? I mean I've been wondering why people want tanks to be pieces of paper for a while.
I may sound like a bit of a vehicle supremacist but I've but nearly all of my SP into them so that'd make sense. However I still have proto AV, I enjoy running in a dropsuit as well... I just don't complain when I can't solo a tank with my AV fit...
Just curious, please post responses in a critical manner :D thank you and have a nice day If you are a bad driver I should be able to solo you. If you are a good driver, it should be hard to solo you. Why do tankers think they should be able to solo a whole team?
It's not that we feel, that we should be able to solo an entire team, it's that we feel with tanks at their current stage, and their current pricing, that it should require good teamwork in order to take down a properly built tank with an experienced driver. All the while I don't care to much about scrubby drivers, as they would just be cannon fodder for such tank pilot.
I Like Tanks, Nova Knives and MagSec SMG's.
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Tread Loudly 2
Ametat Security
Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2015.03.25 14:43:00 -
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Alena Ventrallis wrote:A tank with hardeners down should be relatively easy to solo for any equivalent AV.
A tank with hardeners up should be a nigh unbreakable fortress that takes multiple people to kill.
The issue now is that tanks can escape far too quickly and easily once their hardeners turn off. That's why we have balance problems. Imagine if a tank couldn't jet off over twice as fast as the fastest dropsuit.
That's why we need variations to the tanks added (A Destroyer, a middleman and a Juggernaut). Having just these three variants would make it a much more complex game and cause both AV and enemy tanks to adjust their strategy in order to combat said tanks.
I Like Tanks, Nova Knives and MagSec SMG's.
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Tread Loudly 2
Ametat Security
Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2015.03.25 17:01:00 -
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Leadfoot10 wrote:Let me turn that around on the OP...
Why should a solo AV NOT be able to kill an HAV?
Well based off of the concept of Risk vs Reward which is what a large majority of Dust is based off a 100k suit shouldn't be able to take down a 800k+ Vehicle by himself/herself given that the driver knows how to fit his/her vehicle and knows how to drive it.
However there is also a disposition between the needing of skill and the ability to point hold a button and release compared to operating modules at specific time and being able to properly engage and disengage targets...
Does that answer your question friend? :D
I Like Tanks, Nova Knives and MagSec SMG's.
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