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bear90211
Nyain San
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Posted - 2015.03.25 02:24:00 -
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Not to bash CCP for this, but they are making LEGION for PC simply because 'it's easier to code' and because they don't have to wait to install updates, like EVE. at that point, CCP can finally combine the EVE and DUST teams into one, all three CCP teams then just work on PS4 and PC (I think Valkyrie is PS4 don't quote me though) making the entire EVE universe into a single workable game, effectively making a huge upcoming, they hit quite a few game circles, EVE, the ten years 'Yeah I am a vet with a billion SP' people, a infinitely playable game, an FPS, and valkyrie.. still cant remember what this is going to be on. it looks like a possible cash gain and a lasting image, this is what I think it will be. "CCP, masters of crafting PC games, the noobs of console games, we give thee our finest PC games, please accept them with open arms, and please forget our ruined console career") well it is different, personally I think that DUST needs to have major core fixes, a stable 30-50 FPS, (An end to the red line and the removal of red line sockets) better interface and SP systems, major re balancing, more variation from non-blood things (Like EVE ORE ships and special things.) the removal of AURUM items, a better market system, and much better comunications. the list goes on and on, but you can get what I mean.
The public should help CCP out, give them figures, do you want to have legion happen or dust to live on PS4with huge improvements and an active fixes team or not? DUST has potential, but CCP is killing DUST by calling it LEGION,
Hey CCP, Please Don't. (Say no to Legion! Let Dust live!)
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Ripley Riley
Incorruptibles
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Posted - 2015.03.25 02:33:00 -
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Rouge has, twice now, said he wants a New Eden FPS on PC. He also said a PS4 port isn't on their roadmap. He sounds pretty dead set against consoles, and I don't blame him.
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Golden Day
Corrosive Synergy Rise Of Legion.
1245
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Posted - 2015.03.25 02:37:00 -
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EvE valk morpheus ps4
If we could spam enough threads we could get them to work on getting dust to ps4 if we do so....
Dust could be ground forces and legion space marinnes boarding stations taking them over ect.
I know you wan't it ( -í° -£-û -í°)
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Himiko Kuronaga
Fatal Absolution Negative-Feedback
5493
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Posted - 2015.03.25 03:14:00 -
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Ripley Riley wrote:Rouge has, twice now, said he wants a New Eden FPS on PC.
If what I've been told is true, he doesn't. Just a company line handed down to him and nothing more.
But honestly, the game shouldn't be going anywhere near PC. It shouldn't have ever even been announced on PC -- They made a console game and invested in a console community. To turn their backs on that community is a really scummy move. To announce for PC and then not deliver is an also scummy move.
But ultimately, there is no established PC community for Legion. They can just as easily take it or leave it. The console community are the ones who would truly be getting screwed over, and they are the ones who deserve this game.
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Titus Stryker
Ancient Exiles.
455
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Posted - 2015.03.25 03:22:00 -
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Golden Day wrote:EvE valk morpheus ps4
If we could spam enough threads we could get them to work on getting dust to ps4 if we do so....
Dust could be ground forces and legion space marinnes boarding stations taking them over ect. Dust and Legion cannot coexist. Can't and shouldn't split player bases.
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DUST Fiend
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Posted - 2015.03.25 04:44:00 -
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Himiko Kuronaga wrote:Ripley Riley wrote:Rouge has, twice now, said he wants a New Eden FPS on PC. If what I've been told is true, he doesn't. Just a company line handed down to him and nothing more. But honestly, the game shouldn't be going anywhere near PC. It shouldn't have ever even been announced on PC -- They made a console game and invested in a console community. To turn their backs on that community is a really scummy move. To announce for PC and then not deliver is an also scummy move. But ultimately, there is no established PC community for Legion. They can just as easily take it or leave it. The console community are the ones who would truly be getting screwed over, and they are the ones who deserve this game. Scummy sure, but our community is pretty small regardless. If they had to give us the axe, it would ultimately be fine because there is also a thriving market on PC.
Not saying it shouldn't be on PS4, but the lack of scale in our community makes us prone to execution for monetary gains.
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Kain Spero
Negative-Feedback.
4890
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Posted - 2015.03.25 04:49:00 -
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Himiko Kuronaga wrote:Ripley Riley wrote:Rouge has, twice now, said he wants a New Eden FPS on PC. If what I've been told is true, he doesn't. Just a company line handed down to him and nothing more. But honestly, the game shouldn't be going anywhere near PC. It shouldn't have ever even been announced on PC -- They made a console game and invested in a console community. To turn their backs on that community is a really scummy move. To announce for PC and then not deliver is an also scummy move. But ultimately, there is no established PC community for Legion. They can just as easily take it or leave it. The console community are the ones who would truly be getting screwed over, and they are the ones who deserve this game.
I think ensuring CCP treats the community that has allowed Dust to survive with respect is essential. Throwing them out in the cold by doing a PC-only port would be a trashy move I agree.
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BLOOD Ruler
VOLKOV INDUSTRIES
1502
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Posted - 2015.03.25 04:50:00 -
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My guess is they dislike how things happen with sony, so no ps4 because Devs haven't some control. Best to have it all then some, to me its a smart decision.
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JJ'S
Krusual Covert Operators Minmatar Republic
57
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Posted - 2015.03.25 04:51:00 -
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Ripley Riley wrote:Rouge has, twice now, said he wants a New Eden FPS on PC. He also said a PS4 port isn't on their roadmap. He sounds pretty dead set against consoles, and I don't blame him.
Name a game being completely developed purely for PC.
Every game out there is developed with thoughts of porting to console or launching on console.
There are more big titles and high rated games that don't come to PC but are on console.
PC has better potential for gaming? There was a time when Game developers built games for next years PC hardware capabilities.. Not even being able to run the "Ultra" setting until next year and thousands of dollars of investment later... When game development was being pushed the hardest.
That is gone.. Games are built with a possible console port.... Even Elite:Dangerous as it will be coming to the Xbox one.
We would be blind fools to think that CCP Shanghai is currently developing DUST without any thoughts or work and making the assets transferable and workable on other platforms. |
Cypher Nil
Fireteam Tempest
118
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Posted - 2015.03.25 08:09:00 -
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bear90211 wrote:Not to bash CCP for this, but they are making LEGION for PC simply because 'it's easier to code' and because they don't have to wait to install updates, like EVE. at that point, CCP can finally combine the EVE and DUST teams into one, all three CCP teams then just work on PS4 and PC (I think Valkyrie is PS4 don't quote me though) making the entire EVE universe into a single workable game, effectively making a huge upcoming, they hit quite a few game circles, EVE, the ten years 'Yeah I am a vet with a billion SP' people, a infinitely playable game, an FPS, and valkyrie.. still cant remember what this is going to be on. it looks like a possible cash gain and a lasting image, this is what I think it will be. "CCP, masters of crafting PC games, the noobs of console games, we give thee our finest PC games, please accept them with open arms, and please forget our ruined console career") well it is different, personally I think that DUST needs to have major core fixes, a stable 30-50 FPS, (An end to the red line and the removal of red line sockets) better interface and SP systems, major re balancing, more variation from non-blood things (Like EVE ORE ships and special things.) the removal of AURUM items, a better market system, and much better comunications. the list goes on and on, but you can get what I mean.
The public should help CCP out, give them figures, do you want to have legion happen or dust to live on PS4with huge improvements and an active fixes team or not? DUST has potential, but CCP is killing DUST by calling it LEGION,
Hey CCP, Please Don't. (Say no to Legion! Let Dust live!)
Any development for PC is also development for PS4 as the PS4 architecture makes it incredibly simple to port from PC to PS4.
Valkyrie development is for PC with a PS4 port for this reason.
Combining the teams makes literally no sense, each team is made up of developers specialising in the tools and techniques used to create each of these genre specific games.
Each of the games can have interconnectivity but they cannot be combined into a single framework or engine, their too diverse for that to happen. from a technical standpoint its also impossible.
Jesus have you heard of the return key?? your wall of text is absolutely horrible to read. learn punctuation.
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Cypher Nil
Fireteam Tempest
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Posted - 2015.03.25 08:13:00 -
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JJ'S wrote:
Name a game being completely developed purely for PC.
Every game out there is developed with thoughts of porting to console or launching on console.
There are more big titles and high rated games that don't come to PC but are on console.
PC has better potential for gaming? There was a time when Game developers built games for next years PC hardware capabilities.. Not even being able to run the "Ultra" setting until next year and thousands of dollars of investment later... When game development was being pushed the hardest.
That is gone.. Games are built with a possible console port.... Even Elite:Dangerous as it will be coming to the Xbox one.
We would be blind fools to think that CCP Shanghai is currently developing DUST without any thoughts or work and making the assets transferable and workable on other platforms.
Name a game completely developed for PC?? how about 75 - 80% of games ever developed. The PC has more exclusives then all current gen and previous gen consoles combined.
Console ports from PC games are done purely to open the game up to a wider market. you clearly have no background or concept of how the gaming industry works my friend. don't spew bias misinformation on the internet please.
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Cypher Nil
Fireteam Tempest
118
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Posted - 2015.03.25 08:17:00 -
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Golden Day wrote:EvE valk morpheus ps4
If we could spam enough threads we could get them to work on getting dust to ps4 if we do so....
Dust could be ground forces and legion space marinnes boarding stations taking them over ect.
Why would they limit legion's gameplay just because dust exists, legion has the potential to have all of the features of dust AND all of the features that should have been included in dust but were limited by the consoles networking capacity
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FLAYLOCK Steve
Nos Nothi
630
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Posted - 2015.03.25 08:17:00 -
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CPP wants to expand their market. Keeping on ps3 or moving it to ps4 wouldn't expand much. Not everyone has a ps4 but most people have a computer. I myself don't have a ps4. |
Cypher Nil
Fireteam Tempest
118
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Posted - 2015.03.25 08:19:00 -
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Himiko Kuronaga wrote:Ripley Riley wrote:Rouge has, twice now, said he wants a New Eden FPS on PC. If what I've been told is true, he doesn't. Just a company line handed down to him and nothing more. But honestly, the game shouldn't be going anywhere near PC. It shouldn't have ever even been announced on PC -- They made a console game and invested in a console community. To turn their backs on that community is a really scummy move. To announce for PC and then not deliver is an also scummy move. But ultimately, there is no established PC community for Legion. They can just as easily take it or leave it. The console community are the ones who would truly be getting screwed over, and they are the ones who deserve this game.
Its not a scummy move their just not capable to puting the features they promest for dust onto the console BECAUSE the console can't handle it.
The mistake was putting this game on console in the first place. sticking with a mistake is still a mistake in my book.
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Iron Wolf Saber
Den of Swords
18999
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Posted - 2015.03.25 08:22:00 -
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And we still don't know what kind of game legion is going to be?
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Fizzer XCIV
Tal-Romon Legion Amarr Empire
2807
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Posted - 2015.03.25 08:30:00 -
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BLOOD Ruler wrote:My guess is they dislike how things happen with sony, so no ps4 because Devs haven't some control. Best to have it all then some, to me its a smart decision. Then why are they making Valkyrie on PS4? This is quite clearly not an issue.
It is well known that CCP have a special deal with Sony that streamlines the Q&A process for updates... How do you think that Dust gets updated so much compared to pretty much every other console game ever?
Soni don't buy this argument at all. Being on PS4 wouldn't cut back on updates or hinder development in any significant way.
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Fizzer XCIV
Tal-Romon Legion Amarr Empire
2807
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Posted - 2015.03.25 08:33:00 -
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FLAYLOCK Steve wrote:CPP wants to expand their market. Keeping on ps3 or moving it to ps4 wouldn't expand much. Not everyone has a ps4 but most people have a computer. I myself don't have a ps4.
That is bullshit, and you should know it.
Not every PC is used for gaming. Every PS4 is.
There are many more PS4s used for gaming than there are PCs used for gaming. For gaming, consoles are the bigger market.
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Georgia Xavier
Y.A.M.A.H
147
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Posted - 2015.03.25 08:34:00 -
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JJ'S wrote:Ripley Riley wrote:Rouge has, twice now, said he wants a New Eden FPS on PC. He also said a PS4 port isn't on their roadmap. He sounds pretty dead set against consoles, and I don't blame him. Name a game being completely developed purely for PC. Every game out there is developed with thoughts of porting to console or launching on console. There are more big titles and high rated games that don't come to PC but are on console. PC has better potential for gaming? There was a time when Game developers built games for next years PC hardware capabilities.. Not even being able to run the "Ultra" setting until next year and thousands of dollars of investment later... When game development was being pushed the hardest. That is gone.. Games are built with a possible console port.... Even Elite:Dangerous as it will be coming to the Xbox one. We would be blind fools to think that CCP Shanghai is currently developing DUST without any thoughts or work and making the assets transferable and workable on other platforms. I am more than 100% sure there are a lot of games that are exclusively for the PC I would know,I own some of those games
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Jack Boost
Zarena Family
709
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Posted - 2015.03.25 09:40:00 -
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Only money speaks...
CCP make exlusive (YES EXCLUSIVE) Dust for PS3. Why?
To try expand. And Sony give good platform for this with profiled players. (as you know for this title - only mraketing wows) From this perspective PS3 succes... not good. 2000-4000 players from potential 80 000 000.
CCP can get easly this amout of players at PC side... just now. Without bother, in more integrated enviroment. There is a lot PC players that must bought console for IDEA of Dust. And you just forget about this.
But you know... some of you console players like Dust and you get Eve virus. Time to answer onself - I DEDICATED (console) GAMER, CAN I 'BETRAY" PLATFORM for game that i'm addicted?
Rattati speaks betwen words: Great 'IDEA' of Dust cloud development process. We need simplify needs of players to simplify development of updates... and make succes... and make money from it.
I hear this before in terms of how Dust can be complex...
I only predict that we (yes 'we) migrate more to COD version of DUST (already happen?), and great IDEA will fall little behind horizon.
For title and keeping alive (remember 'exclusive' means someting for both sides CCP/Sony) this happen. To the death of platform.
For IDEA I have hope only in Legion. I don't care on what platform. And you sould too. PS4 is still bother as two companies talking and working together with different looks and targets. Same 'Valkyrie'. Sony need it badly for morpheus... and contacts with CCP is already done. They help each other for succes in VR.
I predict that Valkyrie end like 30 misions to make in VR enviroment dogfight... Great visuals and fun... but IDEA of integrated battle field - Eve + DUST + Valkyria... shift more to the horizon...
Time and money will speaks, but aperently 'time' is less vaulable ...
Don't worry too much :) Have fun in game and readings my toughts ;)
Not much time left...
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Kincate
Sinq Laison Gendarmes Gallente Federation
114
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Posted - 2015.03.25 10:30:00 -
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Iron Wolf Saber wrote:And we still don't know what kind of game legion is going to be?
Would it be anything other than an FPS? Im just curious about what your thinking Legion could potentially be?
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Kira Lannister
Ancient Exiles.
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Posted - 2015.03.25 13:17:00 -
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Make the game more noob friendly.
Apex Starter fit. Right out the gate you will be able to slay.
Higher TTK=COD Players come running. It's scummy but if that's what sells who cares just put your sensitivity on 100.
Dropsuit Teiricide. Same slots at all levels, just different CPU/PG Requirements. Think Apex.
Enhance Social Aspects. Meaning Bigger Squad Sizes. Add isk to FW. Bring back corp battles. If you got beef with a corp, why wait a day?
Fine tune Game Modes: Redline problems, etc.
It's a lot to do, but not so much in the bigger scheme of things.
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al nize mk2
No Skillz inc.
337
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Posted - 2015.03.25 13:39:00 -
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Kincate wrote:Iron Wolf Saber wrote:And we still don't know what kind of game legion is going to be? Would it be anything other than an FPS? Im just curious about what your thinking Legion could potentially be?
My understanding of it is that LEGION is simply the sequel to DUST. It will presumably expand on the current game in ways that we would all like. In ways that we have clamoured for since first signing up.
There's no doubt the theory of LEGION is sound. DUST is already awesome. LEGION has the scope to be something truly special. If making it on PC is the price to pay then so be it, and I say that as a console gamer. My feeling is that we will get it for the PS4 one way or the other. I don't mind that they aren't announcing anything on that front because clearly they haven't even finished the PC version.
The rise of DUST in recent times means I am not even thinking about LEGION anymore. I'm thinking about DUST. I'm focused on making it to the top (or somewhere around the middle) while this, my favourite ever PS3 game, is still around. Recent announcements make me think that will be for some time yet. So all things being equal I'm a happy mercenary about now.
Keep up the DUST work CCP we appreciate it. Do some more sales on Aurum packages - the vet pack deal must have made you a lot of cash.
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Fox Gaden
Immortal Guides Learning Alliance
6115
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Posted - 2015.03.25 13:43:00 -
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Ripley Riley wrote:Rouge has, twice now, said he wants a New Eden FPS on PC. He also said a PS4 port isn't on their roadmap. He sounds pretty dead set against consoles, and I don't blame him. I get the impression that has changed a bit. The fact that DUST has become profitable on the PS3 shows that DUST on the console was not the failed experiment they thought it was. I expect that they are exploring both PC and PS4 options, and won't tell us anything until they make a final decision.
Expect an announcement at Fanfest 2016...
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Mad Syringe
ReDust Inc.
623
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Posted - 2015.03.25 14:11:00 -
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Cypher Nil wrote:[quote=Himiko Kuronaga] Its not a scummy move their just not capable to puting the features they promest for dust onto the console BECAUSE the console can't handle it.
The mistake was putting this game on console in the first place. sticking with a mistake is still a mistake in my book.
You are very wrong there, the problem wasn't to put the game on console, that move was actually a smart one.
The big FU was the non existing proof of concept before the development even started. CCP seems to be quite a chaotic bunch of developers, where people have a less than stellar track reckord of developing concepts into actually functioning game assets.
The CCP way of working their way around ideas without actually brainstorming the viability of them is scary. Otherwise they would have never gone for the carbon engine in the first place in early DUST development. There should have been a professional proof that it's even convertible to the ps3... this obiously never happened.
For all the people who think that Dust integration in EVE would be any good, check out the pathetic captains quarters, walk on station crap they gave the capsuleers, if that's any sign of their capabilitys in the pc sector, I woudn't get my hopes up!
Another thing is the fundamental flaw of having everything in a single shard universe they are so proud of. Right, you can interact with everybody on a single server. But that only works for a klickedeeklick game like eve (time delation) but not for a real time fps. And that's the reason, that Valk will have no connection to EVE but the art assets. And that's a good thing.
They need to find a way, to have an EVE connection, without any lag translating from EVE to Dust, otherwise a more meaningful EVE Dust connection is not going to work without even more lag! And they should start with the chat system, which they seem to be working on...
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Himiko Kuronaga
Fatal Absolution Negative-Feedback
5494
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Posted - 2015.03.25 14:43:00 -
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FLAYLOCK Steve wrote:CPP wants to expand their market. Keeping on ps3 or moving it to ps4 wouldn't expand much. Not everyone has a ps4 but most people have a computer. I myself don't have a ps4.
If we replace computer with modern gaming computer, your argument is one that becomes based on faith, not on facts.
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Luk Manag
of Terror TRE GAFFEL
711
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Posted - 2015.03.25 15:53:00 -
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Himiko Kuronaga wrote:FLAYLOCK Steve wrote:CPP wants to expand their market. Keeping on ps3 or moving it to ps4 wouldn't expand much. Not everyone has a ps4 but most people have a computer. I myself don't have a ps4. If we replace computer with modern gaming computer, your argument is one that becomes based on faith, not on facts.
It doesn't take much of a computer to beat the PS3.
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Kain Spero
Negative-Feedback.
4894
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Posted - 2015.03.25 17:03:00 -
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Cypher Nil wrote: Its not a scummy move their just not capable to puting the features they promest for dust onto the console BECAUSE the console can't handle it.
The mistake was putting this game on console in the first place. sticking with a mistake is still a mistake in my book.
The console being a major limited was a fairy tale put forth by CCP to mask the numerous troubles and failures they've run into internally.
Dust was always destined to outgrow the PS3, but it wasn't destined to be removed from consoles entirely until the fail that was the push for Legion, which has all but collapsed at this point.
Rather than stopping the momentum we have get this stuff on PS4 and keep that momentum going.
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bolsh lee
Ahrendee Inc. Negative-Feedback
1555
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Posted - 2015.03.25 17:05:00 -
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It's pretty comical that people are still trying to speculate the future of Dust especially considering we know very little...
Let's put on the table what we do know..
1- CCP has a skeleton crew working on Dust.. Seemingly unable to provide any meaningful content outside of mechanics and unpolished maps
2- Dust has finally turned a profit. Is it really a sustainable profit when the majority of your customers are unhappy with the product?
3- Even though Dust has been running on a skeleton crew CCP delegated a team to work on a mobile game.. You would think if Legion or a ps4 port was in the works this team would be working on either one..
*feel free to add more
If they haven't started on Dust ps4 or Legion PC then why would anyone think they're able to now? Dust could be in the black, that doesn't mean CCP is ready to heir back those who quit or got the axe after last year's Legion announcement.
If anything people should be speculating on what new cash shop items are going to be released the coming year or how much longer the current player base will put up with this model.. Those empty space a under our 2D warbarge look mighty tasty to keep that profit up! |
Union118
Heaven's Lost Property
491
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Posted - 2015.03.25 17:26:00 -
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bear90211 wrote:Not to bash CCP for this, but they are making LEGION for PC simply because 'it's easier to code' and because they don't have to wait to install updates, like EVE. at that point, CCP can finally combine the EVE and DUST teams into one, all three CCP teams then just work on PS4 and PC (I think Valkyrie is PS4 don't quote me though) making the entire EVE universe into a single workable game, effectively making a huge upcoming, they hit quite a few game circles, EVE, the ten years 'Yeah I am a vet with a billion SP' people, a infinitely playable game, an FPS, and valkyrie.. still cant remember what this is going to be on. it looks like a possible cash gain and a lasting image, this is what I think it will be. "CCP, masters of crafting PC games, the noobs of console games, we give thee our finest PC games, please accept them with open arms, and please forget our ruined console career") well it is different, personally I think that DUST needs to have major core fixes, a stable 30-50 FPS, (An end to the red line and the removal of red line sockets) better interface and SP systems, major re balancing, more variation from non-blood things (Like EVE ORE ships and special things.) the removal of AURUM items, a better market system, and much better comunications. the list goes on and on, but you can get what I mean.
The public should help CCP out, give them figures, do you want to have legion happen or dust to live on PS4with huge improvements and an active fixes team or not? DUST has potential, but CCP is killing DUST by calling it LEGION,
Hey CCP, Please Don't. (Say no to Legion! Let Dust live!) Dust was ment to be played on a PC, why they put it on the ps3 is anyones guess. Dont put dust on ps4 they will just keep failing. Put the stupid trash game on a pc so people who play eve can play it.
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logan turnbull
Glitched Connection
15
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Posted - 2015.03.25 17:34:00 -
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Fizzer XCIV wrote:FLAYLOCK Steve wrote:CPP wants to expand their market. Keeping on ps3 or moving it to ps4 wouldn't expand much. Not everyone has a ps4 but most people have a computer. I myself don't have a ps4. That is bullshit, and you should know it. Not every PC is used for gaming. Every PS4 is. There are many more PS4s used for gaming than there are PCs used for gaming. For gaming, consoles are the bigger market. Here's to the PS4 where Dust514 belongs
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