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Godin Thekiller
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Posted - 2015.03.24 23:52:00 -
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Sir Dukey wrote:Double hardened Armor tanks with two armor reps are unkillable in a tank v tank fight.
How to win a tank fight: Madrugar- 2 hardeners, 2 heavy reps, particle Cannon, Dmg mod, heat sink.
How to fix: Make it so what ever % hardening you get, your rep rate goes down by that %. 2 hardeners= 70-60% resistance, your armor rep rate should go down 70-60%.
Hell no. Making them active would work much better.
Also, are you combatting them at a distance?
ALSO, last time I checked, you should be able to tank a rail longer than a Gal HAV. Do you mean Ion cannon? Because if so, scrub, you let the BLASTER fit get on top of you.
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Posted - 2015.03.25 20:12:00 -
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Derpty Derp wrote:Nerf reps while hardener is active, then everything will be fine.
Large blaster is still the best anti-infantry weapon in the game though... But now it can thrash vehicles as well, Id say that's probably not balanced.
Madruga's not stacking hardener + reps give a nice fight... Gunnlogi can be fit with decent enough hp to beat the crap out of a lot of things, while still being a total turd to AV if you don't play stupid.
Just fix the issues, don't make more.
Buff the Gunnlogi = OP Gunnlogi... Learn to use it's mobility to your advantage, maybe do something about the Large blasters turn speed to stop it being able to track absolutely everything.
lolno
The only moving thing a blaster can easily kill is a heavy suit, or a vehicle (not DS's mind you)
Also, if you're combating it in CQ, you're ******* fault.
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Posted - 2015.03.25 20:15:00 -
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tritan abbattere wrote:This is why we need capacitor in the game to help balance vehicles ......
cap won't change jack ****, it'll just make it worse.
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Posted - 2015.03.25 20:18:00 -
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Shamarskii Simon wrote:Just nerf the armor hardeners... They seriously need one.
Same resistance as shield hardener but longer duration, shorter cool down, Continuously repairing and easier to fit.
Why must they be 40/40? i have no idea.
30a/40s or 35a/40s or 35a/45s... Not this 40/40 without them being the exact same thing. It's simply *UNBALANCED*
This is a legit statement. I like the second one, we can see how that one goes, and if more is needed to be changed, go down another 5 %? I don't think the third option would work, because it's already hard as hell to wear down a double or tripple hardened Gunnlogi.
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Posted - 2015.03.25 20:19:00 -
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Hell Destroyer wrote:Vesta Opalus wrote:THUNDERGROOVE wrote:The answer is still missiles.
You WILL kill them unless they blow their entire load and pop both of their hardeners. Good for them I guess? So yeah missiles do nothing, because they will pop both hardeners. 2 hardener 2 rep madruger is overpowered. <--- period. End of discussion. Anyone defending this **** is an idiot or an ass. Missiles also don't get shot as fast as they used to. Making the does significantly lower and almost pointless as of current. And the reload takes a lot longer too I have herd 6 seconds to start.
Rockets/assault missiles needs a rework. It's definetly shouldn't be a gank weapon, and it being just bad is not necessary. Rails are fine though, I don't get the bitchin and moaning about it.
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Posted - 2015.03.25 20:20:00 -
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Sir Dukey wrote:THUNDERGROOVE wrote:Sir Dukey wrote:
I and 90% of this community has fast enough reflexes to turn on hardeners while i'm skill knick picking at his shields with my slow RoF missiles.
You, along with 90% of the DUST community are also all whiny bitches who continue to complain time and time again about whatever kills you. Get over yourself Complaining is the only thing that ever get's anything done smart one. If nobody ever complained scouts would still be OP, If nobody ever complained about vehicles getting murdered by AV, vehicles would still be sh*tty. You're part of that 10% of forum users that don't even play the game. Seriously, do you ever think about what you post? The crap that comes out of your mouth is the least intelligent sh*t I have ever herd. You're the type of person to bad mouth a kid in school because he has better grades than you. Bish please.
This complaining makes no sense, seeing as it's is leading to silly suggestions.
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Posted - 2015.03.25 20:35:00 -
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Derpty Derp wrote:Godin Thekiller wrote:Also, if you're combating it in CQ, you're ******* fault. I'm doing no such thing to whoever fault is O__o. Godin Thekiller wrote:The only moving thing a blaster can easily kill is a heavy suit, or a vehicle (not DS's mind you) Having farmed like crazy with mah scrubby large blaster tank, I'd have to say you're doing something wrong if you can't down anything with it. dropships have gone boom, scouts die if you look at them, heavies can at least take a hit before they waddle to their death.
I've been able to dodge three blasters shooting at me at once. I'm not looking at it from a pilot, I'm looking at it as infantry.
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Posted - 2015.03.25 20:58:00 -
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Sir Dukey wrote:Godin Thekiller wrote:Sir Dukey wrote:THUNDERGROOVE wrote:Sir Dukey wrote:
I and 90% of this community has fast enough reflexes to turn on hardeners while i'm skill knick picking at his shields with my slow RoF missiles.
You, along with 90% of the DUST community are also all whiny bitches who continue to complain time and time again about whatever kills you. Get over yourself Complaining is the only thing that ever get's anything done smart one. If nobody ever complained scouts would still be OP, If nobody ever complained about vehicles getting murdered by AV, vehicles would still be sh*tty. You're part of that 10% of forum users that don't even play the game. Seriously, do you ever think about what you post? The crap that comes out of your mouth is the least intelligent sh*t I have ever herd. You're the type of person to bad mouth a kid in school because he has better grades than you. Bish please. This complaining makes no sense, seeing as it's is leading to silly suggestions. It does though. Your a vehicle user I guess. You don't get it. I'm a Scout, I don't get scout QQ. You have to see the other side before complaining. I have a Madrugar with this fit, I also have infantry and other stuff. This Madrugar fit is super OP. Why? Because Armor hardeners are OP.
You clearly didn't read my statement.
The complaining going on is warranted. The specifics of the complaining doesn't make sense. That is specifically why I said THIS complaining doesn't make sense.
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Posted - 2015.03.25 21:00:00 -
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Derpty Derp wrote:Godin Thekiller wrote:Also, if you're combating it in CQ, you're ******* fault. I'm doing no such thing to whoever fault is O__o. Godin Thekiller wrote:The only moving thing a blaster can easily kill is a heavy suit, or a vehicle (not DS's mind you) Having farmed like crazy with mah scrubby large blaster tank, I'd have to say you're doing something wrong if you can't down anything with it. dropships have gone boom, scouts die if you look at them, heavies can at least take a hit before they waddle to their death.
****, that made no sense when I reread it. Tired, I'm sorry. jet lag is a *****.
Again: If you're combating a blaster with a rail in CQ, it's your ******* fault. better?
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Posted - 2015.03.25 21:40:00 -
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Nothing Certain wrote:Spkr4theDead wrote:Sir Dukey wrote:Double hardened Armor tanks with two armor reps are unkillable in a tank v tank fight.
How to win a tank fight: Madrugar- 2 hardeners, 2 heavy reps, particle Cannon, Dmg mod, heat sink.
How to fix: Make it so what ever % hardening you get, your rep rate goes down by that %. 2 hardeners= 70-60% resistance, your armor rep rate should go down 70-60%. Why is the answer to always nerf a vehicle? Simple, they are OP. Assymetrical gameplay requires a counter for each type of play, rock-scissors-paper.In Dust it should go: tanks>infantry>infantry AV>tanks Currently we have: tanks>infantry tanks>infantry AV tanks>ADS tanks=tanks, where the only discussion is about which tank fit beats another tank fit. Somehow tankers convince themselves this makes sense.
Both of those assertions are as I've seen false. Prove it.
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