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JJ'S
Krusual Covert Operators
Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2015.03.23 05:36:00 -
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Cat Merc wrote:Anyone complaining about aim assist should go play Destiny and come back to this game.
Destiny is the standard btw.
Show me the competitive end game mode like PC in Destiny.
How many people in End game Leagues in CoD run with Aim assist on? less then 25%?
When even the biggest game studio users of Aim assist have an actual competitive game mode? Aim assist is either more of a hindrance in end game competitive play or is removed from being able to be used.
DUST 514 In PC if a player was to turn off Aim assist... They would be putting themselves in a worse position then someone who has it on.
This is a game mode where millions and millions of ISK is largely dictated by an Aim assist mechanic... As if it was removed there would be a completely different match.
Maybe if DUST was mainly a PVE shooter with a Multiplayer PVP mode as an after thought, And Worth while Game modes like PC didn't exist..... Then Aim assist at Destiny's level would make sense?
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Operative 1174 Uuali
Y.A.M.A.H
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Posted - 2015.03.23 05:36:00 -
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Why should aiming be the basis for the game?
It's not auto aim that allows scouts to win, it is lag. He who does not lag and see his opponent frame dropping wins.
If auto aim is the reason for better success thwn why not turn on auto aim and play on the same level?
If you are such a good shot then what's the problem?
Death is a serious businessGǪ So is running a shoddy, half-baked game company.
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Vrain Matari
Mikramurka Shock Troop
Minmatar Republic
2581
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Posted - 2015.03.23 06:05:00 -
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JJ'S wrote:Cat Merc wrote:Anyone complaining about aim assist should go play Destiny and come back to this game.
Destiny is the standard btw. Show me the competitive end game mode like PC in Destiny. How many people in End game Leagues in CoD run with Aim assist on? less then 25%? When even the biggest game studio users of Aim assist have an actual competitive game mode? Aim assist is either more of a hindrance in end game competitive play or is removed from being able to be used. DUST 514 In PC if a player was to turn off Aim assist... They would be putting themselves in a worse position then someone who has it on. This is a game mode where millions and millions of ISK is largely dictated by an Aim assist mechanic... As if it was removed there would be a completely different match. Maybe if DUST was mainly a PVE shooter with a Multiplayer PVP mode as an after thought, And Worth while Game modes like PC didn't exist..... Then Aim assist at Destiny's level would make sense?
Ex-f'kin-actly. That Destiny argument is at best irrelevant to the argument and at worst a red herring.
This is a game which will someday have endgame battles with mind-bogglingly high stakes. We will be putting orders of magnitude more on the line that any other game can imagine, with the repercussions of victory/defeat potentially affecting hundreds or thousands of players.
The high stakes and connectedness of what we may have in Dust should be the primary motivation for two design goals:
1) High fidelity aiming & movement mechanics with no aim assist. As much as possible these should be skill-based contests.
2) Console(currently PS4), because botting will always be a thing. In a meaningless game like CoD although it's annoying as hell it doesn't really 'matter', but in a game where battles may be fought over mountains of ISK/strategicresources and involve hundreds of hours of prep and huge investment/commitment by many players it sure as hell does matter.
If somebody was found cheating and it affected the outcome of a battle, CCP would be able to ban the offender but there's no way they could turn back the clock on the battle results.
PSN: RationalSpark
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jenza aranda
BetaMax.
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Posted - 2015.03.23 06:21:00 -
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was accused in the past many times of using an aimbot
wouldn't even know how to modify the ps3 to make it happen, not that i need it anyway!
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Mejt0
Dead Man's Game
RUST415
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Posted - 2015.03.23 06:46:00 -
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Kb/m equal to controller?
Maybe when you're drunk with one eye covered.
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Sequal's Back
Dead Man's Game
RUST415
486
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Posted - 2015.03.23 07:49:00 -
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KTB alt spotted.
Fix the game before trying to add anything else.
(Hint: hit detection, lags, glitches,.. you've got some work :) )
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Most Sneakiest
F0RSAKEN EMPIRE.
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Posted - 2015.03.23 07:51:00 -
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xxwhitedevilxx M wrote:Heimdallr69 wrote:Aimbot can be used on PS3... You just have to mod it first ...but you can't log in  therefor you can't play online games.
Have you played Modern Warfare 2 at any point in the last 4 years?
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WeapondigitX V7
The Exemplars
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Posted - 2015.03.23 08:12:00 -
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Racro 01 Arifistan wrote:heh. these plebs and their AA and their aimbots.
mines turned off.....still play with 100 sensitivity one everything though.
turned AA on for one match...was too easy to land hits. turned AA off.
wouldn't surprise me if people were using aimbots though. driving a HAV around the map and some how an assault forge can manage to land all his rounds on you from a good 300-350m. now way in hell can a weapon that cnat hold its charge beable to land rounds like that.
and don't even mention ''hes good with the forge or uses it so often.'' accounting for terrain and buildings iut shiouldnt be possible to dump an entire clip of afg on a vehicle. the std and breach varients maybe but the afg shouldn't have a chance at landing its shots from so far away without being to hold it. but that's just an example anyway.
I barely have a life. Cause I have done that with a AFG without cheating, and without aim assist. |
THUNDERGROOVE
Fatal Absolution
Negative-Feedback
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Posted - 2015.03.23 08:14:00 -
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JJ'S wrote:
In DUST? You could loose Millions of ISK in PC with a majority of all deaths in that gamemode largely dictated by the Aim assist mechanic.
This mechanic is given to everyone though. The AA in DUST is the weakest of any FPS I've played on a console in years.
Mace yourself, blame someone else itGÇÖs okay, no one will believe you
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OMFGZOMBIESRUN
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Posted - 2015.03.23 08:22:00 -
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jenza aranda wrote:was accused in the past many times of using an aimbot
wouldn't even know how to modify the ps3 to make it happen, not that i need it anyway!
You've never been good enough for anyone to ever think you use an aimbot. Don't lie. |
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THUNDERGROOVE
Fatal Absolution
Negative-Feedback
1658
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Posted - 2015.03.23 09:17:00 -
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WeapondigitX V7 wrote:
I barely have a life. Cause I have done that with a AFG without cheating, and without aim assist.
Forge guns don't have aim assist 
FFS are you all this uneducated?
Mace yourself, blame someone else itGÇÖs okay, no one will believe you
AIV member.
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Krixus Flux
Kang Lo Directorate
Gallente Federation
536
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Posted - 2015.03.23 10:21:00 -
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JJ'S wrote:Universal Decimator wrote:Because I don't need to cheat. It's not my idea of fun ! I like to talk alot and stuff
Say it with me bro. Vid-dee-o...Game. One more time, Vid-dee-o... Game.
More fun, less tryhard.
Saying what's on people's minds
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Kincate
Sinq Laison Gendarmes
Gallente Federation
112
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Posted - 2015.03.23 10:33:00 -
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Himiko Kuronaga wrote:Dust isn't on PC.
Yet. Dust isn't on PC yet.
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Nirwanda Vaughns
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Posted - 2015.03.23 10:51:00 -
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Racro 01 Arifistan wrote:
wouldn't surprise me if people were using aimbots though. driving a HAV around the map and some how an assault forge can manage to land all his rounds on you from a good 300-350m. now way in hell can a weapon that cnat hold its charge beable to land rounds like that.
and don't even mention ''hes good with the forge or uses it so often.'' accounting for terrain and buildings iut shiouldnt be possible to dump an entire clip of afg on a vehicle. the std and breach varients maybe but the afg shouldn't have a chance at landing its shots from so far away without being to hold it. but that's just an example anyway.
Some people are simply that good with an AFG, I know a couple of them. also you might have 2 AFGs shooting you without realizing it. couple of guys in corp always run as a team and using attack orders to pick thier targets.
Never argue with an idiot. they bring you down to their level and beat you through experience
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dzizur
Nos Nothi
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Posted - 2015.03.23 11:57:00 -
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funny how people don't realise that autoaim in dust is basicly what aimbot on pc is.. ;) |
Sequal's Back
Dead Man's Game
RUST415
486
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Posted - 2015.03.23 12:28:00 -
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Over 50 kills..
I must've been cheating :/
Fix the game before trying to add anything else.
(Hint: hit detection, lags, glitches,.. you've got some work :) )
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Ghosts Chance
Intara Direct Action
Caldari State
3058
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Posted - 2015.03.23 12:32:00 -
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Racro 01 Arifistan wrote:heh. these plebs and their AA and their aimbots.
mines turned off.....still play with 100 sensitivity one everything though.
turned AA on for one match...was too easy to land hits. turned AA off.
wouldn't surprise me if people were using aimbots though. driving a HAV around the map and some how an assault forge can manage to land all his rounds on you from a good 300-350m. now way in hell can a weapon that cnat hold its charge beable to land rounds like that.
and don't even mention ''hes good with the forge or uses it so often.'' accounting for terrain and buildings iut shiouldnt be possible to dump an entire clip of afg on a vehicle. the std and breach varients maybe but the afg shouldn't have a chance at landing its shots from so far away without being to hold it. but that's just an example anyway.
forge guns dont have aim assist.
if forge guns had aim assist they would miss literally every shot due to the fact that the projectile has a travel time....
your opinion is now invalid
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Maiden selena MORTIMOR
Amarr Templars
Amarr Empire
362
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Posted - 2015.03.23 12:34:00 -
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VAHZZ wrote:Da hell is an aimbot?
Why I don't play pc fps
no im not a mortedeamor alt..im her slave
When my master is banned I represent her wishes and that of the Mortimor famil
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Jack Boost
Zarena Family
704
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Posted - 2015.03.23 12:38:00 -
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Dust without AA was ... different game.
You must know how much match is lagged to make corrections and predict target.
Now don't matter. Every can be 'god' in aiming. With wepons like ASCR or CR.
AA only for newborn at academy!
ABOUT AFG - personal expirience:
I don't use AA in Dust.
My personal aim-bot ;) can handle 3 of 4 shoot hit target about 80%.
Last hit is about 50% (target - hide/ run in panic/ inantry kill you etc)
Farthest kill with AFG 298m. If you get killed at 350, probably after last shoot heavy got remoted and fly away fster then you... it's happen ;)
GL and train hard.
Not much time left...
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Sequal's Back
Dead Man's Game
RUST415
487
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Posted - 2015.03.23 12:45:00 -
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Jack Boost wrote:Dust without AA was ... different game.
You must know how much match is lagged to make corrections and predict target.
Now don't matter. Every can be 'god' in aiming. With wepons like ASCR or CR.
AA only for newborn at academy!
ABOUT AFG - personal expirience:
I don't use AA in Dust.
My personal aim-bot ;) can handle 3 of 4 shoot hit target about 80%.
Last hit is about 50% (target - hide/ run in panic/ inantry kill you etc)
Farthest kill with AFG 298m. If you get killed at 350, probably after last shoot heavy got remoted and fly away fster then you... it's happen ;)
GL and train hard.
There is no AA on FG/AFG anyway.
The problem isn't AA. It's hit detection.
Fix the game before trying to add anything else.
(Hint: hit detection, lags, glitches,.. you've got some work :) )
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Cat Merc
Negative-Feedback.
Negative-Feedback
15704
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Posted - 2015.03.23 13:02:00 -
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JJ'S wrote:Cat Merc wrote:Anyone complaining about aim assist should go play Destiny and come back to this game.
Destiny is the standard btw. Show me the competitive end game mode like PC in Destiny. How many people in End game Leagues in CoD run with Aim assist on? less then 25%? When even the biggest game studio users of Aim assist have an actual competitive game mode? Aim assist is either more of a hindrance in end game competitive play or is removed from being able to be used. DUST 514 In PC if a player was to turn off Aim assist... They would be putting themselves in a worse position then someone who has it on. This is a game mode where millions and millions of ISK is largely dictated by an Aim assist mechanic... As if it was removed there would be a completely different match. Maybe if DUST was mainly a PVE shooter with a Multiplayer PVP mode as an after thought, And Worth while Game modes like PC didn't exist..... Then Aim assist at Destiny's level would make sense?
You know that Halo had a competitive scene for an ass long time, right?
And it had aim assist on Destiny levels.
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Mad Syringe
ReDust Inc.
594
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Posted - 2015.03.23 13:09:00 -
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Vrain Matari wrote:[quote=JJ'S]
Ex-f'kin-actly. That Destiny argument is at best irrelevant to the argument and at worst a red herring.
This is a game which will someday have endgame battles with mind-bogglingly high stakes. We will be putting orders of magnitude more on the line that any other game can imagine, with the repercussions of victory/defeat potentially affecting hundreds or thousands of players.
The high stakes and connectedness of what we may have in Dust should be the primary motivation for two design goals:
I admire your dillusions of grandure for this game... LOL... I lost those quite a while ago... but go on, I'll laugh on my way out.
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Jack Boost
Zarena Family
704
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Posted - 2015.03.23 13:13:00 -
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Sequal's Back wrote:
There is no AA on FG/AFG anyway.
The problem isn't AA. It's hit detection.
1. If not... this film with glitch is fabricated ;)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o5zf5Wg81s0
2. Hit detection isn't problem... Problem is how server count dmg.
If scout can run stright at heavy + hmg and don't take dmg it is problem at server side.. not that you can't aim or scout don't take it. Scout take dmg but with server algoritms.. it get very low damage because scout isn't at place where you fire... But server don't know that scout run right at you and this is .. broken.
Not much time left...
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Ku Shala
UNITED MERCINARY AND PILOTS ALLIANCE
Immortals of War
1321
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Posted - 2015.03.23 13:53:00 -
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this thread started with complaints about aimbot and somehow became a dispute over aim assist, the train has been derailed call the fire department (?)
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xxwhitedevilxx M
Maphia Clan Unit Pwnycorn
3009
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Posted - 2015.03.23 14:08:00 -
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Most Sneakiest wrote:xxwhitedevilxx M wrote:Heimdallr69 wrote:Aimbot can be used on PS3... You just have to mod it first ...but you can't log in therefor you can't play online games. Have you played Modern Warfare 2 at any point in the last 4 years?
Actually no, haven't touched any COD for 8 years now, and I'm quite happy with that, anyway. The thing is, as I said in the post above, you will never be "undetected". It's simply a matter of time: report the guy and if he's using an aimbot he'll get his permaban, that's it. Moreover, you'll need a Custom Firmware: With the last year's update (can't remember which one exactly) you might not want to go online with a custom firmware, since there's a huge chance you'll get caught within 1-2 days.
Also, COD is not a server based game, so the host might be the cause of the vast majority of the troubles you might have with the game: lagswitching etc.
More than that, you should be a software developer in order to develop an Aimbot for a game which counts more or less 9000 total players a day.
To anyone saying that PC games have no aim assist, you're totally wrong: aim assist is made up by many more factors than the simple aim friction/magnetism: the latter is, actually, a console exclusive, considering the gamepad does not give you the same precision a mouse might give, but there are a tons of other "aim assist" mechanisms which also tends to compensate lag somehow. Just naming one, bullet magnetism.
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P14GU3
UNIVERSAL C.A.R.N.A.G.E
1377
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Posted - 2015.03.23 14:32:00 -
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xxwhitedevilxx M wrote:So...
a) there's no such "aimbot" thing on online console games simply because you can't install/modify anything on it.
b) There are a few CFW you could possibly use on ps3, but all of them does not guarantee access to online playing ( for obvious reasons).
c) Even if this was the case, it would be enough to report and he'll get his ps3 locked offline.
d) What you are experiencing is probably a horrible latency.
Extra:
M/KB does not give you a particular advantage now, considering the various tweaks CCP made in the past. It used to give just a little edge over other players in closed / open beta.
Normally, I would agree with you 100%, but I have known K/B&M players who use an eagle-eye (aimbot) mod on their mouses. K/B&M is pretty terrible on this game, but the eagle eye makes it much better. Overall its not the same thing as aimbot on PC, but it is still equal with the AA on a controller, possibly even better. If we didn't have K/B&M, there would truly be no aimbot.
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P14GU3
UNIVERSAL C.A.R.N.A.G.E
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Posted - 2015.03.23 14:43:00 -
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Jack Boost wrote:Sequal's Back wrote:
There is no AA on FG/AFG anyway.
The problem isn't AA. It's hit detection.
1. If not... this film with glitch is fabricated ;) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o5zf5Wg81s02. Hit detection isn't problem... Problem is how server count dmg. If scout can run stright at heavy + hmg and don't take dmg it is problem at server side.. not that you can't aim or scout don't take it. Scout take dmg but with server algoritms.. it get very low damage because scout isn't at place where you fire... But server don't know that scout run right at you and this impossibly to avoid dmg and this is .. broken. [fast target vs dmg taken]
The boxes that you see in the videos (around enemies and allies) look like a wallhack, but its just a glitch in dust. If you try to put a defend order on an objective or person, but dont accurately target them, sometimes the box sticks to your target cursor. I have had it happen quite a few times, and the only way to fix it is to relog. It seems to help a bit with the forgegun, but its just annoying if you use a rifle.
'Sault AK.0 - Logi AK.0 - Logi GK.0 - Scout GK.0 - 'Mando MK.0 - Masshole in every sense of the word.
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Jack Boost
Zarena Family
704
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Posted - 2015.03.23 15:00:00 -
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This glich + AA on = preety nice kill feed :)
But as many says here .. no AA on FG... and Dust are Bug free ;)
Not much time left...
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P14GU3
UNIVERSAL C.A.R.N.A.G.E
1377
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Posted - 2015.03.23 15:11:00 -
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Jack Boost wrote:This glich + AA on = preety nice kill feed :)
But as many says here .. no AA on FG... and Dust are Bug free ;)
I never said dust was bug free, far from it. But there really is no AA on FG..
'Sault AK.0 - Logi AK.0 - Logi GK.0 - Scout GK.0 - 'Mando MK.0 - Masshole in every sense of the word.
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Sequal's Back
Dead Man's Game
RUST415
487
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Posted - 2015.03.23 15:30:00 -
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Jack Boost wrote:Sequal's Back wrote:
There is no AA on FG/AFG anyway.
The problem isn't AA. It's hit detection.
1. If not... this film with glitch is fabricated ;) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o5zf5Wg81s02. Hit detection isn't problem... Problem is how server count dmg. If scout can run stright at heavy + hmg and don't take dmg it is problem at server side.. not that you can't aim or scout don't take it. Scout take dmg but with server algoritms.. it get very low damage because scout isn't at place where you fire... But server don't know that scout run right at you and this impossibly to avoid dmg and this is .. broken. [fast target vs dmg taken]
1. The only glitch I see in this video is the order glitch that sometimes wont disapear until you pick another one. He's not cheating nor using aim assist as THERE IS NO AIM ASSIST ON FORGE GUNS. Don't be jealous if someone can shoot better than you do.
2. The problem is both server side and client side, hit detection in some weapon will usually deal nothing to 0 damages even if the game runs smooth because hit boxes and hit detection is very badly made in Dust. Then there is the lag problem which makes things even worse.
All the AA does is trying to hide the terrible hit detection this game has with a poor bullet magnetism that works randomly.
Fix the game before trying to add anything else.
(Hint: hit detection, lags, glitches,.. you've got some work :) )
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