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Summa Militum Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance 311	Posted - 2015.03.21 18:40:00 - [1] - Quote I understand people don't like being protostomped but please stop backing out of the match the moment you realize the other team is half-full with the top protostompers you will face in this game. You will never learn how to combat protostompers if you do not make an effort.
Crimson Moon V 389	Posted - 2015.03.21 18:43:00 - [2] - Quote Summa Militum wrote: I understand people don't like being protostomped but please stop backing out of the match the moment you realize the other team is half-full with the top protostompers you will face in this game. You will never learn how to combat protostompers if you do not make an effort. They aren't just backing out of the game. They are backing out of dust and deleting dust from the PS3. Let how you play speak for you, not what you say.-Naberuis_x
Buwaro Draemon WarRavens 1225	Posted - 2015.03.21 18:49:00 - [3] - Quote If I see the whole or big part of the team contributing? I will stay. Even if it is a loss. But when it is only me trying to escape the Red Line and fight back while the rest of the team sits back and does nothing in the redline? Nah son. I have carried myself many teams in the past and I got tired of it. The Forums are a special place.
Ghosts Chance Intara Direct Action Caldari State 3033	Posted - 2015.03.21 18:52:00 - [4] - Quote why its not profitable.....? ultimatly if its not profitable to fight them then why would anyone? also no amount of "learning" can magically give you 5 squad mates decked out in proto thats requireed to counter them. Minmatar is Winmatar Creed of the Minja - "I'm a leaf on the wind" I am Chances Ghost
Yeeeuuuupppp 920	Posted - 2015.03.21 18:54:00 - [5] - Quote I do what I want, you just want more people to stomp *Sheeba Sheeba* PSN: GMANCASH "I played Dust so long i grew a f--king afro"
Summa Militum Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance 311	Posted - 2015.03.21 18:57:00 - [6] - Quote Buwaro Draemon wrote: If I see the whole or big part of the team contributing? I will stay. Even if it is a loss. But when it is only me trying to escape the Red Line and fight back while the rest of the team sits back and does nothing in the redline? Nah son. I have carried myself many teams in the past and I got tired of it. The situation you are describing I am not talking about. I am talking about when you first start the match and before your team even locates the enemy team you see 1/3 of your team leave the battle. I once had all but 5 people on my team leave the battle during a protostomp.
Summa Militum Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance 311	Posted - 2015.03.21 18:58:00 - [7] - Quote Yeeeuuuupppp wrote: I do what I want, you just want more people to stomp I am not a protostomper. I am a solo player.
Shinobi MumyoSakanagare ZaShigurui Onikanabo Brigade Caldari State 1893	Posted - 2015.03.21 19:01:00 - [8] - Quote Summa Militum wrote: I understand people don't like being protostomped but please stop backing out of the match the moment you realize the other team is half-full with the top protostompers you will face in this game. You will never learn how to combat protostompers if you do not make an effort. Maybe people are tired of playing that dam train map 100 times a day . I know I can only take so much of that $h!t and when I see it I leave the match . I don't know what the hell is going on , the title screen says 5 objectives and it's the dam train map again with 3 . Anyway , who likes that crap ? It seems your mad because people don't want to sit threw that garbage and if your not then you should understand why they would back out . Get some FW matches together if you want to play that way and organize matches against other factions , that way you can play pro against pro , which I know that most of you that do that just don't like . FW is dead , stop stomping pubs / dom / bush and get organized FW matches going . Doubts are like flies and should be treated as such and crushed .
Summa Militum Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance 311	Posted - 2015.03.21 19:02:00 - [9] - Quote Ghosts Chance wrote: why its not profitable.....? ultimatly if its not profitable to fight them then why would anyone? also no amount of "learning" can magically give you 5 squad mates decked out in proto thats requireed to counter them. Are you not able to profit enough during non-protostomping matches to allow you to make a sacrifice every now and then in hopes of winning? If not, that is fine. Switch to a free frontline suit and shoot at every enemy you see. At least try to assist your teammates at killing the enemy clones.
Sole Fenychs Sinq Laison Gendarmes Gallente Federation 668	Posted - 2015.03.21 19:10:00 - [10] - Quote Summa Militum wrote: I understand people don't like being protostomped but please stop backing out of the match the moment you realize the other team is half-full with the top protostompers you will face in this game. You will never learn how to combat protostompers if you do not make an effort. Yeah no. I'll rather kill myself in a dropship than give you any WP for ganging up on me whenever I try to do anything. I try AV and you swarm me with infantry. I try to slay your infantry and you come up with tanks. There is no winning, outside of placing a few uplinks to farm WP.

Summa Militum Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance 311	Posted - 2015.03.21 19:11:00 - [11] - Quote Shinobi MumyoSakanagare ZaShigurui wrote: Summa Militum wrote: I understand people don't like being protostomped but please stop backing out of the match the moment you realize the other team is half-full with the top protostompers you will face in this game. You will never learn how to combat protostompers if you do not make an effort. Maybe people are tired of playing that dam train map 100 times a day . I know I can only take so much of that $h!t and when I see it I leave the match . I don't know what the hell is going on , the title screen says 5 objectives and it's the dam train map again with 3 . Anyway , who likes that crap ? It seems your mad because people don't want to sit threw that garbage and if your not then you should understand why they would back out . Get some FW matches together if you want to play that way and organize matches against other factions , that way you can play pro against pro , which I know that most of you that do that just don't like . FW is dead , stop stomping pubs / dom / bush and get organized FW matches going . You do have a solid point on that train map. I pretty much only play Ambush and the start-of-match-spawning on the train map is complete bullshit. With the exception to that map I ask you to make an effort. As for FW matches I will be joining those quite frequently in the near future for training purposes on running with a squad. I aspire to play PC matches and take over districts. Don't expect me to stop playing Ambush.
Summa Militum Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance 311	Posted - 2015.03.21 19:13:00 - [12] - Quote Sole Fenychs wrote: Summa Militum wrote: I understand people don't like being protostomped but please stop backing out of the match the moment you realize the other team is half-full with the top protostompers you will face in this game. You will never learn how to combat protostompers if you do not make an effort. Yeah no. I'll rather kill myself in a dropship than give you any WP for ganging up on me whenever I try to do anything. I try AV and you swarm me with infantry. I try to slay your infantry and you come up with tanks. There is no winning, outside of placing a few uplinks to warm WP. I am not the one coming at you, buddy. I am the one on your team that you are abandoning either in the middle of the battle or before the battle even starts.
Krixus Flux Kang Lo Directorate Gallente Federation 532	Posted - 2015.03.21 19:17:00 - [13] - Quote Imagine if the PS4 crowd plays this game and gets protostomped. Why else so many defend CCPs actions? This is one of the few games where dudes can stomp mudholes in people and feel like Gods. Dust has become their ego booster. A stomping in Dust is unlike any other FPS stomp. You lose, you lose ISK and the chance to get more SP to get better...unless you pay real world money to accelerate skill set gains. The majority of gamers don't want to be bothered with that dude. No one wants to be stressed playing a video game. So why even fault them from leaving a protostomp? Saying what's on people's minds
Ghosts Chance Intara Direct Action Caldari State 3033	Posted - 2015.03.21 19:22:00 - [14] - Quote Summa Militum wrote: Ghosts Chance wrote: why its not profitable.....? ultimatly if its not profitable to fight them then why would anyone? also no amount of "learning" can magically give you 5 squad mates decked out in proto thats requireed to counter them. Are you not able to profit enough during non-protostomping matches to allow you to make a sacrifice every now and then in hopes of winning? If not, that is fine. Switch to a free frontline suit and shoot at every enemy you see. At least try to assist your teammates at killing the enemy clones. theres no point, the stompers are going to tear my blues a new one and every fiight will be 3v1, if im running cheap gear it gets even worse. i leave game so that they can have their fun redlining academy freshies and get 5 kills because the team stops leaving the MCC, that way at least i make the win as boring as possable for them. its just not a fun match, theres no commpetition in it and theres no hope for having any halfway decent fights, its really not worth 20 minuites of my time. Minmatar is Winmatar Creed of the Minja - "I'm a leaf on the wind" I am Chances Ghost
Summa Militum Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance 311	Posted - 2015.03.21 19:22:00 - [15] - Quote Listen people. At least stick with the protostomping matches for the satisfaction of those moments in which you actually take out one of the top players. I just played an Ambush match about 10 minutes ago in which my team was protostomped by Kaizuka Sniper, SS Modan, Dia Farron, and other really good players. The satisfaction I got from getting a kill off of SS Modan was amazing. All of you can get that same satisfaction if you just commit to making an effort.
Thumb Green The Valyrian Mercenary Army 2181	Posted - 2015.03.21 19:23:00 - [16] - Quote I think most know how I am about playing to win by now but honestly I've gotten to the point where I'll go 1/3rd of the match and if it's apparent that my team aren't trying at least with 50% effort or can't do anything because of the ****** matchmaker and team builder then I'll back out of a match. I don't care if I'd make ~800k ISK and ~30k SP at the end of the match, I would throw it away because my time is more valuable to me than to waste it on a bullshit match. Take your stinking paws off me, you damned dirty hipster! Rated [TV-MA]
Summa Militum Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance 311	Posted - 2015.03.21 19:27:00 - [17] - Quote Krixus Flux wrote: Imagine if the PS4 crowd plays this game and gets protostomped. Why else so many defend CCPs actions? This is one of the few games where dudes can stomp mudholes in people and feel like Gods. Dust has become their ego booster. A stomping in Dust is unlike any other FPS stomp. You lose, you lose ISK and the chance to get more SP to get better...unless you pay real world money to accelerate skill set gains. The majority of gamers don't want to be bothered with that dude. No one wants to be stressed playing a video game. So why even fault them from leaving a protostomp? You should view every protostomp as an opportunity for you to get better. You are not going to get worse at this game by trying to take a stand against the protostompers.
Flint Beastgood III Dead Man's Game RUST415 1536	Posted - 2015.03.21 19:31:00 - [18] - Quote I understand that this is an issue, but a lot of the time one person in the squad got "Scottied" and everyone had to leave to pick them up. Happens a few times a day to me. Skills - https://www.facebook.com/notes/flint-beastgood-iii/list-of-trained-skills/416505058477164
Summa Militum Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance 311	Posted - 2015.03.21 19:31:00 - [19] - Quote Thumb Green wrote: I think most know how I am about playing to win by now but honestly I've gotten to the point where I'll go 1/3rd of the match and if it's apparent that my team aren't trying at least with 50% effort or can't do anything because of the ****** matchmaker and team builder then I'll back out of a match. I don't care if I'd make ~800k ISK and ~30k SP at the end of the match, I would throw it away because my time is more valuable to me than to waste it on a bullshit match. You are bringing up a good point. You are at least making an effort for some period of time in the match. Those who don't make any effort drive people like you out of the match and then people like me, who are too stubborn to quit, are left trying to do the work of 4 or 5 people.
Flint Beastgood III Dead Man's Game RUST415 1536	Posted - 2015.03.21 19:34:00 - [20] - Quote Thumb Green wrote: I think most know how I am about playing to win by now but honestly I've gotten to the point where I'll go 1/3rd of the match and if it's apparent that my team aren't trying at least with 50% effort or can't do anything because of the ****** matchmaker and team builder then I'll back out of a match. In these instances I will usually play for 2/3rds just in case the blues pull their fingers out, if they don't I then AFK the rest. I didn't put in the effort for nothing. I can do other stuff while waiting for the game to end. Skills - https://www.facebook.com/notes/flint-beastgood-iii/list-of-trained-skills/416505058477164

Crimson Moon V 392	Posted - 2015.03.21 19:34:00 - [21] - Quote Ghosts Chance wrote: why its not profitable.....? ultimatly if its not profitable to fight them then why would anyone? also no amount of "learning" can magically give you 5 squad mates decked out in proto thats requireed to counter them. Who cares about profit at this stage in the game. How about a fun competitive match. That's incentive for me to stay in a game when I am solo playing against a full squad from one of the top corps. Let how you play speak for you, not what you say.-Naberuis_x
Summa Militum Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance 311	Posted - 2015.03.21 19:35:00 - [22] - Quote Flint Beastgood III wrote: I understand that this is an issue, but a lot of the time one person in the squad got "Scottied" and everyone had to leave to pick them up. Happens a few times a day to me. Seriously? I have never played with a squad so I don't know anything about being "Scottied". Usually when I see a large group of people drop out of a match right at the start I find myself going up against a squad of protostompers.
Ghosts Chance Intara Direct Action Caldari State 3034	Posted - 2015.03.21 19:46:00 - [23] - Quote Crimson Moon V wrote: Ghosts Chance wrote: why its not profitable.....? ultimatly if its not profitable to fight them then why would anyone? also no amount of "learning" can magically give you 5 squad mates decked out in proto thats requireed to counter them. Who cares about profit at this stage in the game. How about a fun competitive match. That's incentive for me to stay in a game when I am solo playing against a full squad from one of the top corps. thosee matches are niether fun, nore competitive Minmatar is Winmatar Creed of the Minja - "I'm a leaf on the wind" I am Chances Ghost
Mejt0 Dead Man's Game RUST415 1133	Posted - 2015.03.21 19:47:00 - [24] - Quote It's better for them to back out than play versus bunch of 'i am the best fk you all' kids/adults [mostly kids] Caldari Hero Loyal To The State Mejt0 Sale List
Summa Militum Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance 311	Posted - 2015.03.21 19:52:00 - [25] - Quote Ghosts Chance wrote: Crimson Moon V wrote: Ghosts Chance wrote: why its not profitable.....? ultimatly if its not profitable to fight them then why would anyone? also no amount of "learning" can magically give you 5 squad mates decked out in proto thats requireed to counter them. Who cares about profit at this stage in the game. How about a fun competitive match. That's incentive for me to stay in a game when I am solo playing against a full squad from one of the top corps. thosee matches are niether fun, nore competitive But they are learning experiences so long as you make an effort.
Ghosts Chance Intara Direct Action Caldari State 3035	Posted - 2015.03.21 19:53:00 - [26] - Quote Summa Militum wrote: Ghosts Chance wrote: Crimson Moon V wrote: Ghosts Chance wrote: why its not profitable.....? ultimatly if its not profitable to fight them then why would anyone? also no amount of "learning" can magically give you 5 squad mates decked out in proto thats requireed to counter them. Who cares about profit at this stage in the game. How about a fun competitive match. That's incentive for me to stay in a game when I am solo playing against a full squad from one of the top corps. thosee matches are niether fun, nore competitive But they are learning experiences so long as you make an effort. they really arnt. they also happpen to usually be the most laggy POS games i have the displeasure of being in half the time. Minmatar is Winmatar Creed of the Minja - "I'm a leaf on the wind" I am Chances Ghost
Crimson Moon V 393	Posted - 2015.03.21 19:53:00 - [27] - Quote Ghosts Chance wrote: Crimson Moon V wrote: Ghosts Chance wrote: why its not profitable.....? ultimatly if its not profitable to fight them then why would anyone? also no amount of "learning" can magically give you 5 squad mates decked out in proto thats requireed to counter them. Who cares about profit at this stage in the game. How about a fun competitive match. That's incentive for me to stay in a game when I am solo playing against a full squad from one of the top corps. thosee matches are niether fun, nore competitive That's not true. I was in a redline vs a full squad of FA and NF last night. I was on a 10 mil sp alt and went 23/11. Sure I lost 11 proto suits but I had a blast doing it. It was more fun then PC because it wasn't lagging and it was competitive. The problem is people are just to scared to lose precious monopoly money on a garbage F2P fps. When you just throw proto at the enemy and play to do well its fun. To many people are just gaping vags. Let how you play speak for you, not what you say.-Naberuis_x
Summa Militum Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance 311	Posted - 2015.03.21 19:56:00 - [28] - Quote Ghosts Chance wrote: Summa Militum wrote: Ghosts Chance wrote: Crimson Moon V wrote: Ghosts Chance wrote: why its not profitable.....? ultimatly if its not profitable to fight them then why would anyone? also no amount of "learning" can magically give you 5 squad mates decked out in proto thats requireed to counter them. Who cares about profit at this stage in the game. How about a fun competitive match. That's incentive for me to stay in a game when I am solo playing against a full squad from one of the top corps. thosee matches are niether fun, nore competitive But they are learning experiences so long as you make an effort. they really arnt. they also happpen to usually be the most laggy POS games i have the displeasure of being in half the time. In this game I do not experience the lag so many people complain about so I can not relate to that.
Thumb Green The Valyrian Mercenary Army 2181	Posted - 2015.03.21 19:58:00 - [29] - Quote Summa Militum wrote: You are bringing up a good point. You are at least making an effort for some period of time in the match. Those who don't make any effort drive people like you out of the match and then people like me, who are too stubborn to quit, are left trying to do the work of 4 or 5 people. I was people like you for 2 years, the 1st of those years I was diehard people like you playing daily from 10-12pm to down time running the best fits I could. But there's only so much bullshit even the most stubborn person can take before they get tired of it and say fck it. Flint Beastgood III wrote: In these instances I will usually play for 2/3rds just in case the blues pull their fingers out, if they don't I then AFK the rest. I didn't put in the effort for nothing. I can do other stuff while waiting for the game to end. If I wanted to do other stuff I wouldn't turn on my ps3 in the first place. I love playing DUST, I just don't care for the bullshit that comes with it 50% of the time. Usually I don't get a match bad enough to make me quit twice in a row so I'd rather queue up another one, if it does get bad enough for me to want to do something else I just shut off ps3. Take your stinking paws off me, you damned dirty hipster! Rated [TV-MA]
Flint Beastgood III Dead Man's Game RUST415 1537	Posted - 2015.03.21 20:07:00 - [30] - Quote Summa Militum wrote: Flint Beastgood III wrote: I understand that this is an issue, but a lot of the time one person in the squad got "Scottied" and everyone had to leave to pick them up. Happens a few times a day to me. Seriously? I have never played with a squad so I don't know anything about being "Scottied". Usually when I see a large group of people drop out of a match right at the start I find myself going up against a squad of protostompers. Yeah, seriously! It's happened 3 times today to my squad. Sometimes one person gets a "scotty error" (you've had those right?) but the rest of the squad gets deployed into battle. Sometimes (very rarely) it happens with enough time to get everyone to cancel deployment, but usually there isn't enough time (or only some are quick enough to cancel) and the rest of the squad get thrown into the battle and then they have the choice of leaving to get their squadmate(s) or making them wait (not really fair since it's not their fault). Skills - https://www.facebook.com/notes/flint-beastgood-iii/list-of-trained-skills/416505058477164

First Prophet Nos Nothi 2738	Posted - 2015.03.21 20:09:00 - [31] - Quote Summa Militum wrote: Listen people. At least stick with the protostomping matches for the satisfaction of those moments in which you actually take out one of the top players. That one kill is not worth it, and even if it were, a lot of people end protostomps with 0 kills. Quote: The satisfaction I got from getting a kill off of SS Modan was amazing. I think you might just need to get out more. Sorry, but most people don't enjoy playing in protostomps. There's nothing to learn from them. If you enjoy those matches then good for you. Everyone has fun differently. That said, you're a clear minority here, and people aren't going to sit through painful matches just so you can have slightly more fun feeding protostompers. People find this this review helpful!
Flint Beastgood III Dead Man's Game RUST415 1537	Posted - 2015.03.21 20:09:00 - [32] - Quote Thumb Green wrote: [quote=Summa Militum] If I wanted to do other stuff I wouldn't turn on my ps3 in the first place. LOL, the "other stuff" I was refering to was: toilet break, get a drink, roll a smoke.... You only do those things when your PS3 is off?! Skills - https://www.facebook.com/notes/flint-beastgood-iii/list-of-trained-skills/416505058477164
First Prophet Nos Nothi 2738	Posted - 2015.03.21 20:14:00 - [33] - Quote Summa Militum wrote: Flint Beastgood III wrote: I understand that this is an issue, but a lot of the time one person in the squad got "Scottied" and everyone had to leave to pick them up. Happens a few times a day to me. Seriously? I have never played with a squad so I don't know anything about being "Scottied". Usually when I see a large group of people drop out of a match right at the start I find myself going up against a squad of protostompers. Yeah that's actually very common. matchmaking probably tried to match the squad of protostompers with a squad on your team, but someone on that squad was dropped so everyone backed out. People find this this review helpful!
First Prophet Nos Nothi 2738	Posted - 2015.03.21 20:18:00 - [34] - Quote Flint Beastgood III wrote: Thumb Green wrote: [quote=Summa Militum] If I wanted to do other stuff I wouldn't turn on my ps3 in the first place. LOL, the "other stuff" I was refering to was: toilet break, get a drink, roll a smoke.... You only do those things when your PS3 is off?! It is more energy efficient. People find this this review helpful!
jane stalin Ametat Security Amarr Empire 233	Posted - 2015.03.21 20:34:00 - [35] - Quote I have make the effort to fight pubstompers but I feel silly doing because I am absolutely certain the best way to learn most things when playing a game is to fight opponents that are a bit better than you but not much better than you there are exceptions but I have only seen this in FW and not pubstomps, There is no actual joy in actually killing one of them, because the game is lopsided so it there is no possibility of changing the outcome with your actions so the game is dull *Some of the protostompers are horrible people that need to be punished and the worst thing you can do them is not fight them
Ronin Merc Defenders of the Helghast Dream The Ditanian Alliance 8	Posted - 2015.03.21 20:41:00 - [36] - Quote I agree with one thing, best way to get better is to play BETTRR players. Other than that, I can't stand proto stompers
voidfaction Nos Nothi 1348	Posted - 2015.03.21 20:45:00 - [37] - Quote Summa Militum wrote: Buwaro Draemon wrote: If I see the whole or big part of the team contributing? I will stay. Even if it is a loss. But when it is only me trying to escape the Red Line and fight back while the rest of the team sits back and does nothing in the redline? Nah son. I have carried myself many teams in the past and I got tired of it. The situation you are describing I am not talking about. I am talking about when you first start the match and before your team even locates the enemy team you see 1/3 of your team leave the battle. I once had all but 5 people on my team leave the battle during a protostomp. It's better they leave then do what I do. If it is a protostomp I get my 150wp and afk in the redline. The ones that leave can be replaced. Ones like me can not. noi¦Ü+ö+Æßû+(V)Fac¦Üion
Crimson Moon V 395	Posted - 2015.03.21 20:51:00 - [38] - Quote I can't believe what I am seeing. I have said it before and I will say it again. This community has some of the worst players in the history of FPS gaming. I hope you are proud of yourself. 2 or 3 good players can turn around a proto stomp. If you are low SP that's different. If you have proto and you are backing out because there are people on the other team with the same gear, then you shouldn't be playing fps at all. I would recommend the adventure time game. Playing in losing battles is where you really learn how to fight off your back. No one is going to be on top all the time. You need to know how to fight off your back. That's what separates good players from legends. Being able to adapt to any situation no matter how terrible it is. Let how you play speak for you, not what you say.-Naberuis_x
Krixus Flux Kang Lo Directorate Gallente Federation 532	Posted - 2015.03.21 20:57:00 - [39] - Quote Crimson Moon V wrote: I can't believe what I am seeing. I have said it before and I will say it again. This community has some of the worst players in the history of FPS gaming. I hope you are proud of yourself. 2 or 3 good players can turn around a proto stomp. If you are low SP that's different. If you have proto and you are backing out because there are people on the other team with the same gear, then you shouldn't be playing fps at all. I would recommend the adventure time game. Playing in losing battles is where you really learn how to fight off your back. No one is going to be on top all the time. You need to know how to fight off your back. That's what separates good players from legends. Being able to adapt to any situation no matter how terrible it is. Lol reading your post then read your other thread. Night and day. Saying what's on people's minds
voidfaction Nos Nothi 1348	Posted - 2015.03.21 20:57:00 - [40] - Quote Thumb Green wrote: If I wanted to do other stuff I wouldn't turn on my ps3 in the first place. I love playing DUST, I just don't care for the bullshit that comes with it 50% of the time. Usually I don't get a match bad enough to make me quit twice in a row so I'd rather queue up another one, if it does get bad enough for me to want to do something else I just shut off ps3. I have my laptop next to me at all times while playing. The afking a protostomp gives me time to spend time on the forums, research my programming hobby, smoke a cig, do all sorts of thing all while gaining little bits of isk/sp. I consider it making the best out of a broken system and making the best use out of being protostomped. noi¦Ü+ö+Æßû+(V)Fac¦Üion

Crimson Moon V 397	Posted - 2015.03.21 21:03:00 - [41] - Quote Krixus Flux wrote: Crimson Moon V wrote: I can't believe what I am seeing. I have said it before and I will say it again. This community has some of the worst players in the history of FPS gaming. I hope you are proud of yourself. 2 or 3 good players can turn around a proto stomp. If you are low SP that's different. If you have proto and you are backing out because there are people on the other team with the same gear, then you shouldn't be playing fps at all. I would recommend the adventure time game. Playing in losing battles is where you really learn how to fight off your back. No one is going to be on top all the time. You need to know how to fight off your back. That's what separates good players from legends. Being able to adapt to any situation no matter how terrible it is. Lol reading your post then read your other thread. Night and day. I know. I'm a madman.Multiple personality disorder. Well low sp players are going to ragequit either way. They should ragequit, ccp doesn't deserve a larger playerbase or any extra money. Not like they can compete anyways. When high sp players do it I just find it pathetic. Let how you play speak for you, not what you say.-Naberuis_x
voidfaction Nos Nothi 1349	Posted - 2015.03.21 21:08:00 - [42] - Quote Crimson Moon V wrote: I can't believe what I am seeing. I have said it before and I will say it again. This community has some of the worst players in the history of FPS gaming. I hope you are proud of yourself. 2 or 3 good players can turn around a proto stomp. If you are low SP that's different. If you have proto and you are backing out because there are people on the other team with the same gear, then you shouldn't be playing fps at all. I would recommend the adventure time game. Playing in losing battles is where you really learn how to fight off your back. No one is going to be on top all the time. You need to know how to fight off your back. That's what separates good players from legends. Being able to adapt to any situation no matter how terrible it is. The difference in having proto and using it in a pub match is the key. I don't use proto in pubs. I have 60 million sp and could run proto but dont feel like that is fair to the noobs or casual player in pubs. In pubs my adv suit is the most I will run and don't even feel right running it. Not everyone thinks stomp pubs at all cost as if it was a pc match with all organized high skilled players. some consider pubs have noobs and solo player that are very unorganized where just being lvl 5 in a suit and using std with organized squad can already stomp and dont see the need for overkill. noi¦Ü+ö+Æßû+(V)Fac¦Üion
LUGMOS Corrosive Synergy Rise Of Legion. 2923	Posted - 2015.03.21 21:12:00 - [43] - Quote voidfaction wrote: The difference in having proto and using it in a pub match is the key. I don't use proto in pubs. I have 60 million sp and could run proto but dont feel like that is fair to the noobs or casual player in pubs. In pubs my adv suit is the most I will run and don't even feel right running it. Not everyone thinks stomp pubs at all cost as if it was a pc match with all organized high skilled players. some consider pubs have noobs and solo player that are very unorganized where just being lvl 5 in a suit and using std with organized squad can already stomp and dont see the need for overkill. Plasma Cannon :3 Anti-FoTM Prof. V Forum Scavenger Prof. V
Henchmen21 Planet Express LLC 1165	Posted - 2015.03.21 21:20:00 - [44] - Quote Easier solution, stop proto stomping pubs. Almost as easy a solution as CCP putting corp battles back in, each team puts down isk winner takes all. Your ego's get stroked and lonewolves like me don't have to have our play style ruined. /Faceplam
Fixitgd Incorruptibles 322	Posted - 2015.03.21 21:26:00 - [45] - Quote Train map = leave when its 6 times in a row "Suck it!" - S.M.
Crimson Moon V 398	Posted - 2015.03.21 21:27:00 - [46] - Quote voidfaction wrote: Crimson Moon V wrote: I can't believe what I am seeing. I have said it before and I will say it again. This community has some of the worst players in the history of FPS gaming. I hope you are proud of yourself. 2 or 3 good players can turn around a proto stomp. If you are low SP that's different. If you have proto and you are backing out because there are people on the other team with the same gear, then you shouldn't be playing fps at all. I would recommend the adventure time game. Playing in losing battles is where you really learn how to fight off your back. No one is going to be on top all the time. You need to know how to fight off your back. That's what separates good players from legends. Being able to adapt to any situation no matter how terrible it is. The difference in having proto and using it in a pub match is the key. I don't use proto in pubs. I have 60 million sp and could run proto but dont feel like that is fair to the noobs or casual player in pubs. In pubs my adv suit is the most I will run and don't even feel right running it. Not everyone thinks stomp pubs at all cost as if it was a pc match with all organized high skilled players. some consider pubs have noobs and solo player that are very unorganized where just being lvl 5 in a suit and using std with organized squad can already stomp and dont see the need for overkill. STFU you get carried by your passive skills. You passive skill stomper. You are ruining the game. In all seriousness if there Is 6-10 people on the enemy team using proto why wouldn't you use your proto gear and fight back instead of just backing out like like a scrub. Let how you play speak for you, not what you say.-Naberuis_x
voidfaction Nos Nothi 1350	Posted - 2015.03.21 21:28:00 - [47] - Quote Henchmen21 wrote: Easier solution, stop proto stomping pubs. Almost as easy a solution as CCP putting corp battles back in, each team puts down isk winner takes all. Your ego's get stroked and lonewolves like me don't have to have our play style ruined. That is why many are pushing for the meta-lockout in pubs. Some of the protostompers say they can stomp with militia/std so it will not help, lol. So they themselves are also providing argument that running proto in pubs is overkill while trying to defend the protostomp ability. noi¦Ü+ö+Æßû+(V)Fac¦Üion
Adipem Nothi Nos Nothi 8156	Posted - 2015.03.21 21:39:00 - [48] - Quote Quote: Stop Backing Out Of The Match It isn't my responsibility to entertain partyboy stompsquads. It isn't my job to compensate for Scotty's shortcomings. It isn't my backing out that breaks matches. Shoot scout with yes. - Ripley Riley
Henchmen21 Planet Express LLC 1166	Posted - 2015.03.21 21:47:00 - [49] - Quote Crimson Moon V wrote: voidfaction wrote: Crimson Moon V wrote: I can't believe what I am seeing. I have said it before and I will say it again. This community has some of the worst players in the history of FPS gaming. I hope you are proud of yourself. 2 or 3 good players can turn around a proto stomp. If you are low SP that's different. If you have proto and you are backing out because there are people on the other team with the same gear, then you shouldn't be playing fps at all. I would recommend the adventure time game. Playing in losing battles is where you really learn how to fight off your back. No one is going to be on top all the time. You need to know how to fight off your back. That's what separates good players from legends. Being able to adapt to any situation no matter how terrible it is. The difference in having proto and using it in a pub match is the key. I don't use proto in pubs. I have 60 million sp and could run proto but dont feel like that is fair to the noobs or casual player in pubs. In pubs my adv suit is the most I will run and don't even feel right running it. Not everyone thinks stomp pubs at all cost as if it was a pc match with all organized high skilled players. some consider pubs have noobs and solo player that are very unorganized where just being lvl 5 in a suit and using std with organized squad can already stomp and dont see the need for overkill. STFU you get carried by your passive skills. You passive skill stomper. You are ruining the game. In all seriousness if there Is 6-10 people on the enemy team using proto why wouldn't you use your proto gear and fight back instead of just backing out like like a scrub. Not everyone raked in billions in locking districts? /Faceplam
Proto Annihilator 16 Vandals 762	Posted - 2015.03.21 21:47:00 - [50] - Quote Summa Militum wrote: Listen people. At least stick with the protostomping matches for the satisfaction of those moments in which you actually take out one of the top players. I just played an Ambush match about 10 minutes ago in which my team was protostomped by Kaizuka Sniper, SS Modan, Dia Farron, and other really good players. The satisfaction I got from getting a kill off of SS Modan was amazing. All of you can get that same satisfaction if you just commit to making an effort. You got satisfied by getting one kill? You look like a blueberry

Crimson Moon V 399	Posted - 2015.03.21 21:56:00 - [51] - Quote Henchmen21 wrote: Crimson Moon V wrote: voidfaction wrote: Crimson Moon V wrote: I can't believe what I am seeing. I have said it before and I will say it again. This community has some of the worst players in the history of FPS gaming. I hope you are proud of yourself. 2 or 3 good players can turn around a proto stomp. If you are low SP that's different. If you have proto and you are backing out because there are people on the other team with the same gear, then you shouldn't be playing fps at all. I would recommend the adventure time game. Playing in losing battles is where you really learn how to fight off your back. No one is going to be on top all the time. You need to know how to fight off your back. That's what separates good players from legends. Being able to adapt to any situation no matter how terrible it is. The difference in having proto and using it in a pub match is the key. I don't use proto in pubs. I have 60 million sp and could run proto but dont feel like that is fair to the noobs or casual player in pubs. In pubs my adv suit is the most I will run and don't even feel right running it. Not everyone thinks stomp pubs at all cost as if it was a pc match with all organized high skilled players. some consider pubs have noobs and solo player that are very unorganized where just being lvl 5 in a suit and using std with organized squad can already stomp and dont see the need for overkill. STFU you get carried by your passive skills. You passive skill stomper. You are ruining the game. In all seriousness if there Is 6-10 people on the enemy team using proto why wouldn't you use your proto gear and fight back instead of just backing out like like a scrub. Not everyone raked in billions in locking districts? Everyone starts somewhere. I think when I first got proto I had like 10 mil isk. I never went broke and actually ended up making about 150 mil isk before I got any rewards from PC. (Imps never really got paid towards the beginning of PC) So the solution is get good. Don't die when you are playing against noobs that way you can actually compete when you run into another full squad of proto. Let how you play speak for you, not what you say.-Naberuis_x
Onesimus Tarsus is-a-Corporation 3184	Posted - 2015.03.21 22:12:00 - [52] - Quote Summa Militum wrote: I understand people don't like being protostomped but please stop backing out of the match the moment you realize the other team is half-full with the top protostompers you will face in this game. You will never learn how to combat protostompers if you do not make an effort. You will let us know when we are playing up to your standards, I hope. In other words: no. KDR matchmaking fixes everything but the stupid purple Quafe stuff.
Henchmen21 Planet Express LLC 1166	Posted - 2015.03.21 22:16:00 - [53] - Quote Crimson Moon V wrote: Henchmen21 wrote: Crimson Moon V wrote: voidfaction wrote: Crimson Moon V wrote: I can't believe what I am seeing. I have said it before and I will say it again. This community has some of the worst players in the history of FPS gaming. I hope you are proud of yourself. 2 or 3 good players can turn around a proto stomp. If you are low SP that's different. If you have proto and you are backing out because there are people on the other team with the same gear, then you shouldn't be playing fps at all. I would recommend the adventure time game. Playing in losing battles is where you really learn how to fight off your back. No one is going to be on top all the time. You need to know how to fight off your back. That's what separates good players from legends. Being able to adapt to any situation no matter how terrible it is. The difference in having proto and using it in a pub match is the key. I don't use proto in pubs. I have 60 million sp and could run proto but dont feel like that is fair to the noobs or casual player in pubs. In pubs my adv suit is the most I will run and don't even feel right running it. Not everyone thinks stomp pubs at all cost as if it was a pc match with all organized high skilled players. some consider pubs have noobs and solo player that are very unorganized where just being lvl 5 in a suit and using std with organized squad can already stomp and dont see the need for overkill. STFU you get carried by your passive skills. You passive skill stomper. You are ruining the game. In all seriousness if there Is 6-10 people on the enemy team using proto why wouldn't you use your proto gear and fight back instead of just backing out like like a scrub. Not everyone raked in billions in locking districts? Everyone starts somewhere. I think when I first got proto I had like 10 mil isk. I never went broke and actually ended up making about 150 mil isk before I got any rewards from PC. (Imps never really got paid towards the beginning of PC) So the solution is get good. Don't die when you are playing against noobs that way you can actually compete when you run into another full squad of proto. I hover around 160 million at all times and can run proto all I want as well but seeing as I lone wolf I have to pick and choose when I do. I am not an idiot whose going to throw my isk into a negative feedback proto stomp. if anything I am going to limit my isk losses just to prevent them from making that much more isk on my deaths. /Faceplam
bathtubist TRUE SAVAGES Learning Alliance 54	Posted - 2015.03.21 23:43:00 - [54] - Quote Its not about your effort if your whole team do not even attempt to suck up the rage and push like hell and sometimes I feel like im the only logi on the team since no one comes to stick me
Stormblade Green KnightKiller's inc. 55	Posted - 2015.03.21 23:47:00 - [55] - Quote Crimson Moon V wrote: Summa Militum wrote: I understand people don't like being protostomped but please stop backing out of the match the moment you realize the other team is half-full with the top protostompers you will face in this game. You will never learn how to combat protostompers if you do not make an effort. They aren't just backing out of the game. They are backing out of dust and deleting dust from the PS3. That is about right.... me and a couple of my friends have been trying to find new players before they face Protostompers..... One might say... I'm very skilled... yet I'm his apprentice... So what does that say about my mentor?
Yeeeuuuupppp 924	Posted - 2015.03.22 01:18:00 - [56] - Quote Summa Militum wrote: Yeeeuuuupppp wrote: I do what I want, you just want more people to stomp I am not a protostomper. I am a solo player. I didn't say you were a proto stomper. I was merely assuming your skill level is above mediocre and you have the capability to kick noobs' teeth in with any tier or gear *Sheeba Sheeba* PSN: GMANCASH "I played Dust so long i grew a f--king afro"
7th Son 7 BLITZKRIEG7 588	Posted - 2015.03.22 01:30:00 - [57] - Quote Sorry reliving the battle of Gettysburg again and again, sounds as appealing as punching myself repeatedly in the d1ck. Moral of the story, I'll do what I feel is best. Always mystify, mislead and surprise the enemy if possible........--- Stonewall Jackson
Mikhail Windgates 7th air cav 4	Posted - 2015.03.22 01:40:00 - [58] - Quote voidfaction wrote: Crimson Moon V wrote: I can't believe what I am seeing. I have said it before and I will say it again. This community has some of the worst players in the history of FPS gaming. I hope you are proud of yourself. 2 or 3 good players can turn around a proto stomp. If you are low SP that's different. If you have proto and you are backing out because there are people on the other team with the same gear, then you shouldn't be playing fps at all. I would recommend the adventure time game. Playing in losing battles is where you really learn how to fight off your back. No one is going to be on top all the time. You need to know how to fight off your back. That's what separates good players from legends. Being able to adapt to any situation no matter how terrible it is. The difference in having proto and using it in a pub match is the key. I don't use proto in pubs. I have 60 million sp and could run proto but dont feel like that is fair to the noobs or casual player in pubs. In pubs my adv suit is the most I will run and don't even feel right running it. Not everyone thinks stomp pubs at all cost as if it was a pc match with all organized high skilled players. some consider pubs have noobs and solo player that are very unorganized where just being lvl 5 in a suit and using std with organized squad can already stomp and dont see the need for overkill. Right, same here. for others pub match is for the sake of fun (casual gaming) and i'm one of those. probably some use their proto gear on pub match to test it out. But if you notice that most of your foes are using mlt/adv gear, i don't think that you have to use proto gear. Just to prove that your good in playing this game, but of course other use proto gear cause they can and they want to. Back to the topic. yes agree also about "playing in losing battles is where you learn how to fight back." But I am guilty on this also, If I'm playing solo and I see that the other side is in full proto squad (2 squads or so). I tend to just leave the match, cause I have enough of being stomp. i have enough of experience on what will happen next (close chromosome player here). or I'll still play and try to change the course of the battle via supporting our team, but it seems that most of the time the outcome is still the same our team getting stomp. probably it's just me not having luck in matchmaking..... For the good of the game, i know it's already late for this. but I hope CCP implements; tutorial game mode for new players - probably with bots where you can set them from mlt/adv/proto. host a private map for your friends or corp mate to play with - with settings allowed gear is mlt/adv/proto gear, friendly fire on... *warbarge or mothership visiting - hang out place for socialization TLDR........
Summa Militum Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance 315	Posted - 2015.03.22 06:09:00 - [59] - Quote Thumb Green wrote: [quote=Summa Militum] You are bringing up a good point. You are at least making an effort for some period of time in the match. Those who don't make any effort drive people like you out of the match and then people like me, who are too stubborn to quit, are left trying to do the work of 4 or 5 people. I was people like you for 2 years, the 1st of those years I was diehard people like you playing daily from 10-12pm to down time running the best fits I could. But there's only so much bullshit even the most stubborn person can take before they get tired of it and say fck it. [quote=Flint Beastgood III] I am only 11 months into this game. The bullshit in this game hasn't beaten me down yet.
GLOBAL RAGE Consolidated Dust 142	Posted - 2015.03.22 07:58:00 - [60] - Quote Crimson Moon V wrote: Krixus Flux wrote: Crimson Moon V wrote: I can't believe what I am seeing. I have said it before and I will say it again. This community has some of the worst players in the history of FPS gaming. I hope you are proud of yourself. 2 or 3 good players can turn around a proto stomp. If you are low SP that's different. If you have proto and you are backing out because there are people on the other team with the same gear, then you shouldn't be playing fps at all. I would recommend the adventure time game. Playing in losing battles is where you really learn how to fight off your back. No one is going to be on top all the time. You need to know how to fight off your back. That's what separates good players from legends. Being able to adapt to any situation no matter how terrible it is. Lol reading your post then read your other thread. Night and day. I know. I'm a madman.Multiple personality disorder. Well low sp players are going to ragequit either way. They should ragequit, ccp doesn't deserve a larger playerbase or any extra money. Not like they can compete anyways. When high sp players do it I just find it pathetic. Why should I battle a squad of European Laggers on the North American server? Full proto Prima Galacfralalaticuses laggy Frogs, Or some asshats from asia's Carbon7 and Nyan San, hell I can't stands an Ahrendee lag fantastic squad playing on public Wi-Fi, or parasiting of the local MaDonalds. Proto stompers in this game are usually high ping players, and high KDR players in this game are usually the same.

CELESTA AUNGM Kang Lo Directorate Gallente Federation 503	Posted - 2015.03.22 08:01:00 - [61] - Quote A very nice effort, Summa. Like I observed and predicted in an earlier thread, I think you are on your way to being one of the Dust Masters. Realistically, your attempts will only motivate SOME of the players who read this. There'll be a portion of players (especially among the New players) who were hoping to find a new game where they can succeed in run-n-gun, but find that Dust allows even run-n-gun masters to get humiliated and eaten during their first 3 months. There'll also be some players who never recover from the initial shock of getting killed so many times per match, and now wince whenever they hear too much gunfire approaching, and just search for a way to leave or "defend the MCC area" in this match. Not every player who expected to "just have relaxing fun shooting" in a game, is prepared or willing to have to learn the "assist" ways of fighting tough opponents, or have to learn the ISK-managment abilities that CCP hoped we'd develop over time. Those abilities bring easier victories and become socially fun in a game like this, but not everyone is prepared to invest that much effort to develop themselves that way. So you'll always have a portion of you team become demoralized and retreat in the Pub Matches you may currently be playing. (After a while, you may learn some solo actions of your own that can salvage your poor team, and herd them back towards an objective now and then,.. but that's Advanced Dusting, and it's rare) Be advised, Summa: Once you get into FW matches, this "fear of the protostomper" urban legend will still show itself in players around you. Lots of them will still resort to leaving, retreating, or just Daily Mission farming, whenever your up against a more cohesive bunch of red mercs. FW isn't problem-free. Universe of good wishes for the 49, especially CCP Eterne... No story can have life without writers and publishers.
Sole Fenychs Sinq Laison Gendarmes Gallente Federation 670	Posted - 2015.03.22 10:30:00 - [62] - Quote jane stalin wrote: I make the effort to fight pubstompers but I feel silly doing it because * the best way to learn is to fight opponents that are a bit better than you but not much better than you. There are exceptions but I have only seen this in FW and not pubstomps, There is no actual joy in actually killing one of them, because the game is lopsided so it there is no possibility of changing the outcome with your actions so the game is dull Some of the protostompers are horrible people that need to be punished and the worst thing you can do them is not fight them Also, don't forget that stompers often run BPOs. This essentially means that, even if you do murder them, it's entirely meaningless for them. You don't even have the satisfaction of taking a good chunk of their ISK away. And yes, I know that ISK is effectively in unlimited supply at this point. P.S. Is there any way for a solo player to get into an FW match? Because I want one of those ******* APEX suits to throw it at stompers. It would be so much easier if I had a free suit that wasn't militia.
jane stalin Ametat Security Amarr Empire 236	Posted - 2015.03.22 10:38:00 - [63] - Quote CELESTA AUNGM wrote: A very nice effort, Summa. Like I observed and predicted in an earlier thread, I think you are on your way to being one of the Dust Masters. Realistically, your attempts will only motivate SOME of the players who read this. . I disagree, he has helped nobody He is not addressing any of the reasons the actual players leave and all the players that actually like "just getting one kill" were not going to leave anyway.
Starlight Burner ROGUE RELICS 180	Posted - 2015.03.22 11:15:00 - [64] - Quote I play games to have fun with friends. Not get frustrated because of a BS match. Proto Stompers can kiss my ass. If I'm solo, I'm backing out of proto-stomping matches. There's no fun when you're on either the proto stomping team or the team getting stomped. Thank god for CCP Rattati! Rogue Relics is my home away from home. Thank you CCP for getting DUST 514 back on track!
Nestil Seykal Expeditionary Group Minmatar Republic 204	Posted - 2015.03.22 11:34:00 - [65] - Quote Crimson Moon V wrote: I can't believe what I am seeing. I have said it before and I will say it again. This community has some of the worst players in the history of FPS gaming. I hope you are proud of yourself. 2 or 3 good players can turn around a proto stomp. If you are low SP that's different. If you have proto and you are backing out because there are people on the other team with the same gear, then you shouldn't be playing fps at all. I would recommend the adventure time game. Playing in losing battles is where you really learn how to fight off your back. No one is going to be on top all the time. You need to know how to fight off your back. That's what separates good players from legends. Being able to adapt to any situation no matter how terrible it is. the problem is that most of the time i'm alone versus 5-6 proto players that are just doing one big zergrush. i can't handle that much force in my low ehp suit. my team usually sits back and does nothing... yesterday i had to play on US servers (since EU servers are fked up atm) and a proto guy sent me mail how much i sucked since i couldnt kill him. he was running away like a *** (i was in my adv scout suit) he was proto caldari assault and he failed to kill me with his core nades so he engaged me i got some hits on him he runned away went to the hills while moonjumping and even though i aimed at him i only got blueshields. then he was sitting on a rep hive and i tried to shoot him with my burst SCP but all i got was like 1-2 hits and the rest only blueshields and i died from his boundless breach SMG. he also teleported on my screen probalby not his fault since i was on a foreign server). then the game ended i was on the first place with more kills than the rest of my team combined. i hope i see him again to return the favour and then i'll use my proto gear to crush him. so in conclusion the game was mixed... i killed plenty of the stompers but died a lot too. did i had fun? no, but still i wouldnt leave games because of the enemy team being "full protobears-but too scared to 1vs1- sissies" ... but i would leave when I'm on **** maps like the gal lag facility- i hate that map and the 3 FPS i get there BTW crimson. the MAG player in your sig is called "Naberius_X"
Luk Manag of Terror TRE GAFFEL 707	Posted - 2015.03.22 11:35:00 - [66] - Quote Proto Annihilator wrote: Summa Militum wrote: Listen people. At least stick with the protostomping matches for the satisfaction of those moments in which you actually take out one of the top players. I just played an Ambush match about 10 minutes ago in which my team was protostomped by Kaizuka Sniper, SS Modan, Dia Farron, and other really good players. The satisfaction I got from getting a kill off of SS Modan was amazing. All of you can get that same satisfaction if you just commit to making an effort. You got satisfied by getting one kill? Any time I can kill Kaizuka Sniper it's a good match. I've done it plenty of times, but usually he goes 17/0 with everyone either running away or just falling over each other to let him kill them. There will be bullets. ACR+SMG [CEO of Terror]
castba Rogue Instincts Ashtar Federation 826	Posted - 2015.03.22 11:46:00 - [67] - Quote Ghosts Chance wrote: its really not worth 20 minuites of my time. This sums up a lot of the battles unfortunately. When there is an even battle that is hard fought by both teams, there are not many games more enjoyable, but those proto stops in pubs... "When everything is OP, nothing is" - CCP Ratatti
CommanderBolt KILL-EM-QUICK Rise Of Legion. 3260	Posted - 2015.03.22 12:24:00 - [68] - Quote Man I can totally deal with getting my ass kicked, I've had it happen for a long time. I always try to push the objectives and fight. Two things I will not accept however are huge lag / latency and teleporting players! You had better believe I'm backing out when that stuff happens, on my local server no less. Vitantur Nothus wrote: Why hide a solution under frothy pile of derpa? SCV Ready!
hold that Capital Acquisitions LLC Bad Intention 721	Posted - 2015.03.22 12:24:00 - [69] - Quote i used to think like that too. but recently fighting against certain corps that are consistently laggy has forced me to reconsider. main thing being is that why run anything but bpos if you know it's going to be a lag fest, nothing fun in that, might as well back out.
Sequal's Back Dead Man's Game RUST415 485	Posted - 2015.03.22 12:51:00 - [70] - Quote hold that wrote: i used to think like that too. but recently fighting against certain corps that are consistently laggy has forced me to reconsider. main thing being is that why run anything but bpos if you know it's going to be a lag fest, nothing fun in that, might as well back out. ^ Why would I get my ass kicked because of lags so that some players on the other side can have fun? Whenever it lags/teleport, blueberries aren't playing, framerate drops ==> I leave. Fix the game before trying to add anything else. (Hint: hit detection, lags, glitches,.. you've got some work :) )

Diablo Gamekeeper KILL-EM-QUICK Rise Of Legion. 154	Posted - 2015.03.22 13:14:00 - [71] - Quote lol most people know how to counter proto stompers but cant because they are riding solo. It requires teamwork to counter it : \ "I think he just Assert Dominance all over my face."-Saxonmish
logan turnbull Glitched Connection 14	Posted - 2015.03.22 13:30:00 - [72] - Quote Summa Militum wrote: I understand people don't like being protostomped but please stop backing out of the match the moment you realize the other team is half-full with the top protostompers you will face in this game. You will never learn how to combat protostompers if you do not make an effort. You do realize the proto stompers are killing this game and with Legion out of the picture you should be talking about why match making is so f up. lets roll
OKK WORD Fraternity of St. Venefice Amarr Empire 0	Posted - 2015.03.22 16:06:00 - [73] - Quote I'd like to see CCP add a lobby that doesn't allow squads. This will give players who want to play solo for whatever reason, and players fresh from the academy a place to play. You would still run into players using proto but it wouldn't be full squads of them.
PLAYSTTION Corrosive Synergy Rise Of Legion. 783	Posted - 2015.03.22 17:16:00 - [74] - Quote Summa Militum wrote: I understand people don't like being protostomped but please stop backing out of the match the moment you realize the other team is half-full with the top protostompers you will face in this game. You will never learn how to combat protostompers if you do not make an effort. Would you stick around if it was you versus 6 proto stomping top PC players? You may try like the brave, valiant soul you are but after you continually die after entering the 100m radius of the squad you WILL retreat to the redline or leave. And often a squad will leave battle to rejoin someone who Scotty left behind leaving the battle unbalanced. Gassault Galogi Galsent `Open Beta Vet - 39 mil sp Director of Corrosive Synergy`
tffvbhb Team Bukkakke 0	Posted - 2015.03.23 02:19:00 - [75] - Quote I'll throw a re at their feet once if I don't get at least 1 I'm gone
Summa Militum Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance 335	Posted - 2015.03.23 03:18:00 - [76] - Quote jane stalin wrote: CELESTA AUNGM wrote: A very nice effort, Summa. Like I observed and predicted in an earlier thread, I think you are on your way to being one of the Dust Masters. Realistically, your attempts will only motivate SOME of the players who read this. . I disagree, I would be surprised if he "helped" ANYONE. He is not addressing any of the reasons the actual players leave and all the players that actually like "just getting one kill" were not going to leave anyway. What do you mean you would be surprised if I "helped" anyone?
DIX RFOR CHICKS T.U.R.D. R.O.C.K. 104	Posted - 2015.03.23 04:54:00 - [77] - Quote Summa Militum wrote: Buwaro Draemon wrote: If I see the whole or big part of the team contributing? I will stay. Even if it is a loss. But when it is only me trying to escape the Red Line and fight back while the rest of the team sits back and does nothing in the redline? Nah son. I have carried myself many teams in the past and I got tired of it. The situation you are describing I am not talking about. I am talking about when you first start the match and before your team even locates the enemy team you see 1/3 of your team leave the battle. I once had all but 5 people on my team leave the battle during a protostomp. Its just a videogame. And its just a public match. IT is ok to leave if you want to. IF I see I am up against multiple squads and my side has none,,,I am gone. Not worth the headache.
Vesta Opalus T.H.I.R.D R.O.C.K 534	Posted - 2015.03.23 05:37:00 - [78] - Quote Summa Militum wrote: Ghosts Chance wrote: why its not profitable.....? ultimatly if its not profitable to fight them then why would anyone? also no amount of "learning" can magically give you 5 squad mates decked out in proto thats requireed to counter them. Are you not able to profit enough during non-protostomping matches to allow you to make a sacrifice every now and then in hopes of winning? If not, that is fine. Switch to a free frontline suit and shoot at every enemy you see. At least try to assist your teammates at killing the enemy clones. Why should anyone sacrifice? Its a video game, if CCP wont give players an environment to avoid proto stomping then players can make do by just backing out of games that are clearly stomps until they find one that is fair. Game needs matchmaking, game needs a game mode limited to STD gear, game does not need people throwing themselves into a proto meat grinder until they get tired of the bullshit and leave the game.
maluble Art.of.Death 227	Posted - 2015.03.24 13:46:00 - [79] - Quote Meta locks, or just ban proto from pub. All those proto stopmers kd will plumit once the people they are facing are on even grounds.
Ku Shala UNITED MERCINARY AND PILOTS ALLIANCE Immortals of War 1324	Posted - 2015.03.24 13:51:00 - [80] - Quote if you cant take the heat save your meat, let more competent players join *-¦a+ó a+ú-Æa+äla+ä (CK-0 Specialist x5)* Caldari Loyalist 22 million sp in drop suit upgrades

Justicar Karnellia Ikomari-Onu Enforcement Caldari State 1009	Posted - 2015.03.24 15:54:00 - [81] - Quote I usually play 5 minutes of the match before deciding if to leave or not... you can tell pretty quick how a game is going to go... if you're redlined within 5 minutes, if all points are capped in skirmish within the first 2 minutes or if I spawn->die 3 times in a row I'm outta there. I play for fun... just not other people's fun.
Jakkal Shoobah Krullefor Organization Minmatar Republic 94	Posted - 2015.03.24 16:06:00 - [82] - Quote I don't think the OP understands the level of incompetence that is the blues. Although there are many lessons to be learned and much isk and sp to be earned, there is also the frustration of fighting alone against adds you can't win against. Sure you can have tiny personal wins, but that feeling is dwarfed by the satisfaction of joining a team of like minded players and playing a match , a game, in unison without a word being said. Why lose when you know you can help any team win , but the team has to be willing to help itself if it truly wishes to win. While slow to anger and occasionally indecisive, they are also capable of harnessing enormous resolve when truly tested.
Vesta Opalus T.H.I.R.D R.O.C.K 542	Posted - 2015.03.24 16:09:00 - [83] - Quote Jakkal Shoobah wrote: I don't think the OP understands the level of incompetence that is the blues. Although there are many lessons to be learned and much isk and sp to be earned, there is also the frustration of fighting alone against adds you can't win against. Sure you can have tiny personal wins, but that feeling is dwarfed by the satisfaction of joining a team of like minded players and playing a match , a game, in unison without a word being said. Why lose when you know you can help any team win , but the team has to be willing to help itself if it truly wishes to win. Sadly its not even their fault, people straight out of the academy just shouldnt be in the same game as the long time vets in this game, we just have zero matchmaking.
Krixus Flux Kang Lo Directorate Gallente Federation 546	Posted - 2015.03.24 16:29:00 - [84] - Quote GLOBAL RAGE wrote: Crimson Moon V wrote: Krixus Flux wrote: Crimson Moon V wrote: I can't believe what I am seeing. I have said it before and I will say it again. This community has some of the worst players in the history of FPS gaming. I hope you are proud of yourself. 2 or 3 good players can turn around a proto stomp. If you are low SP that's different. If you have proto and you are backing out because there are people on the other team with the same gear, then you shouldn't be playing fps at all. I would recommend the adventure time game. Playing in losing battles is where you really learn how to fight off your back. No one is going to be on top all the time. You need to know how to fight off your back. That's what separates good players from legends. Being able to adapt to any situation no matter how terrible it is. Lol reading your post then read your other thread. Night and day. I know. I'm a madman.Multiple personality disorder. Well low sp players are going to ragequit either way. They should ragequit, ccp doesn't deserve a larger playerbase or any extra money. Not like they can compete anyways. When high sp players do it I just find it pathetic. Ahrendee lag fantastic squad playing on public Wi-Fi, or parasiting of the local MaDonalds. Lmfao bro!! Dusting at Mickey D's? How did I miss this line? Too funny CELESTA AUNGM wrote: I love big hard things in my mouth Dude...stop it. Lol who are you people? MLG gamers with tourney wins on your career resume? You guys are, lol, "masters" in other FPS titles? No smart gamer is going to continue playing a match in Dust against organized protostompers while their own team is separated, disorganized and never has a chance to get the ball rolling cause protostompers roam in hunting packs camping spawn points, not even allowing them a chance to leave their redline. Not forgetting every item expired upon death costs ISK. If you not turning profit what's the point of keep playing in the match just because some geek from boy scouts think its the honorable thing to do? This is a friggin video game with heavy lag and it penalizes me financially in a digital sense and SP gain sense. Take the kneepads off bro. Saying what's on people's minds
Gyn Wallace Ready to Play 312	Posted - 2015.03.24 16:45:00 - [85] - Quote Ghosts Chance wrote: ... that way at least i make the win as boring as possible for them. its just not a fun match, there's no competition in it and there's no hope for having any halfway decent fights, its really not worth 20 minutes of my time. There's really no arguing with this. Leaving instances of bad match making is the smart choice. The OP shouldn't stay in that match either. By staying in badly made matches, the OP is just reducing the population available for the match making system to queue into a better balanced match. The Dust/Eve Isk Exchange Thread
Summa Militum Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance 340	Posted - 2015.03.24 16:57:00 - [86] - Quote Gyn Wallace wrote: Ghosts Chance wrote: ... that way at least i make the win as boring as possible for them. its just not a fun match, there's no competition in it and there's no hope for having any halfway decent fights, its really not worth 20 minutes of my time. There's really no arguing with this. Leaving instances of bad match making is the smart choice. The OP shouldn't stay in that match either. By staying in badly made matches, the OP is just reducing the population available for the match making system to queue into a better balanced match. I am not running away from a challenge like you people. Staying in those protostomp matches only makes me a better player. NO RETREAT, NO SURRENDER!
Hogan Gwernach Glitched Connection 19	Posted - 2015.03.24 17:35:00 - [87] - Quote Summa Militum wrote: I understand people don't like being protostomped but please stop backing out of the match the moment you realize the other team is half-full with the top protostompers you will face in this game. You will never learn how to combat protostompers if you do not make an effort. Oh, I will make the effort. Right up to the time when I try to spawn in at ground spawn and get trashed because CCP thought it was a good idea to remove the redline on that F**king train map. It's ridiculous, the other team should NOT be able to waltz right in to my "rear area" and mow me down before I even figure out which way I'm facing on a default spawn point. I've been meleed on that map before I even finish spawning in! Enough of that rant. Now as far as sticking around on other maps and fighting back against proto's. I don't have a problem doing that most of the time. Like others, I'll play 2/3 - 3/4 of a match trying to win. But when it reaches a point where it's futile, because it seems my squad is the only one trying to win, well... why throw good money after bad? Go sit on a hill with my Ish and see if I can get a few more kills, maybe throw a link or hive, or just go jog around the inside of the MCC. But I don't leave a battle JUST because I'm getting protostomped. (With the exception noted above, of course.) PS, Let's keep the "rear area" comments to a minimum please.


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