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Summa Militum
Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance
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Posted - 2015.03.21 18:40:00 -
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I understand people don't like being protostomped but please stop backing out of the match the moment you realize the other team is half-full with the top protostompers you will face in this game. You will never learn how to combat protostompers if you do not make an effort.
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Summa Militum
Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance
311
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Posted - 2015.03.21 18:57:00 -
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Buwaro Draemon wrote:If I see the whole or big part of the team contributing? I will stay. Even if it is a loss. But when it is only me trying to escape the Red Line and fight back while the rest of the team sits back and does nothing in the redline? Nah son. I have carried myself many teams in the past and I got tired of it.
The situation you are describing I am not talking about. I am talking about when you first start the match and before your team even locates the enemy team you see 1/3 of your team leave the battle. I once had all but 5 people on my team leave the battle during a protostomp. |
Summa Militum
Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance
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Posted - 2015.03.21 18:58:00 -
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Yeeeuuuupppp wrote:I do what I want, you just want more people to stomp
I am not a protostomper. I am a solo player. |
Summa Militum
Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance
311
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Posted - 2015.03.21 19:02:00 -
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Ghosts Chance wrote:why its not profitable.....?
ultimatly if its not profitable to fight them then why would anyone?
also no amount of "learning" can magically give you 5 squad mates decked out in proto thats requireed to counter them.
Are you not able to profit enough during non-protostomping matches to allow you to make a sacrifice every now and then in hopes of winning?
If not, that is fine. Switch to a free frontline suit and shoot at every enemy you see. At least try to assist your teammates at killing the enemy clones. |
Summa Militum
Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance
311
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Posted - 2015.03.21 19:11:00 -
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Shinobi MumyoSakanagare ZaShigurui wrote:Summa Militum wrote:I understand people don't like being protostomped but please stop backing out of the match the moment you realize the other team is half-full with the top protostompers you will face in this game. You will never learn how to combat protostompers if you do not make an effort.
Maybe people are tired of playing that dam train map 100 times a day . I know I can only take so much of that $h!t and when I see it I leave the match . I don't know what the hell is going on , the title screen says 5 objectives and it's the dam train map again with 3 . Anyway , who likes that crap ? It seems your mad because people don't want to sit threw that garbage and if your not then you should understand why they would back out . Get some FW matches together if you want to play that way and organize matches against other factions , that way you can play pro against pro , which I know that most of you that do that just don't like . FW is dead , stop stomping pubs / dom / bush and get organized FW matches going .
You do have a solid point on that train map. I pretty much only play Ambush and the start-of-match-spawning on the train map is complete bullshit. With the exception to that map I ask you to make an effort.
As for FW matches I will be joining those quite frequently in the near future for training purposes on running with a squad. I aspire to play PC matches and take over districts. Don't expect me to stop playing Ambush.
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Summa Militum
Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance
311
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Posted - 2015.03.21 19:13:00 -
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Sole Fenychs wrote:Summa Militum wrote:I understand people don't like being protostomped but please stop backing out of the match the moment you realize the other team is half-full with the top protostompers you will face in this game. You will never learn how to combat protostompers if you do not make an effort.
Yeah no. I'll rather kill myself in a dropship than give you any WP for ganging up on me whenever I try to do anything. I try AV and you swarm me with infantry. I try to slay your infantry and you come up with tanks. There is no winning, outside of placing a few uplinks to warm WP.
I am not the one coming at you, buddy. I am the one on your team that you are abandoning either in the middle of the battle or before the battle even starts. |
Summa Militum
Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance
311
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Posted - 2015.03.21 19:22:00 -
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Listen people. At least stick with the protostomping matches for the satisfaction of those moments in which you actually take out one of the top players.
I just played an Ambush match about 10 minutes ago in which my team was protostomped by Kaizuka Sniper, SS Modan, Dia Farron, and other really good players. The satisfaction I got from getting a kill off of SS Modan was amazing.
All of you can get that same satisfaction if you just commit to making an effort. |
Summa Militum
Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance
311
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Posted - 2015.03.21 19:27:00 -
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Krixus Flux wrote:Imagine if the PS4 crowd plays this game and gets protostomped. Why else so many defend CCPs actions? This is one of the few games where dudes can stomp mudholes in people and feel like Gods. Dust has become their ego booster. A stomping in Dust is unlike any other FPS stomp. You lose, you lose ISK and the chance to get more SP to get better...unless you pay real world money to accelerate skill set gains. The majority of gamers don't want to be bothered with that dude. No one wants to be stressed playing a video game. So why even fault them from leaving a protostomp?
You should view every protostomp as an opportunity for you to get better. You are not going to get worse at this game by trying to take a stand against the protostompers. |
Summa Militum
Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance
311
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Posted - 2015.03.21 19:31:00 -
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Thumb Green wrote:I think most know how I am about playing to win by now but honestly I've gotten to the point where I'll go 1/3rd of the match and if it's apparent that my team aren't trying at least with 50% effort or can't do anything because of the ****** matchmaker and team builder then I'll back out of a match. I don't care if I'd make ~800k ISK and ~30k SP at the end of the match, I would throw it away because my time is more valuable to me than to waste it on a bullshit match.
You are bringing up a good point. You are at least making an effort for some period of time in the match. Those who don't make any effort drive people like you out of the match and then people like me, who are too stubborn to quit, are left trying to do the work of 4 or 5 people. |
Summa Militum
Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance
311
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Posted - 2015.03.21 19:35:00 -
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Flint Beastgood III wrote:I understand that this is an issue, but a lot of the time one person in the squad got "Scottied" and everyone had to leave to pick them up. Happens a few times a day to me.
Seriously? I have never played with a squad so I don't know anything about being "Scottied".
Usually when I see a large group of people drop out of a match right at the start I find myself going up against a squad of protostompers. |
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Summa Militum
Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance
311
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Posted - 2015.03.21 19:52:00 -
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Ghosts Chance wrote:Crimson Moon V wrote:Ghosts Chance wrote:why its not profitable.....?
ultimatly if its not profitable to fight them then why would anyone?
also no amount of "learning" can magically give you 5 squad mates decked out in proto thats requireed to counter them. Who cares about profit at this stage in the game. How about a fun competitive match. That's incentive for me to stay in a game when I am solo playing against a full squad from one of the top corps. thosee matches are niether fun, nore competitive
But they are learning experiences so long as you make an effort. |
Summa Militum
Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance
311
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Posted - 2015.03.21 19:56:00 -
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Ghosts Chance wrote:Summa Militum wrote:Ghosts Chance wrote:Crimson Moon V wrote:Ghosts Chance wrote:why its not profitable.....?
ultimatly if its not profitable to fight them then why would anyone?
also no amount of "learning" can magically give you 5 squad mates decked out in proto thats requireed to counter them. Who cares about profit at this stage in the game. How about a fun competitive match. That's incentive for me to stay in a game when I am solo playing against a full squad from one of the top corps. thosee matches are niether fun, nore competitive But they are learning experiences so long as you make an effort. they really arnt. they also happpen to usually be the most laggy POS games i have the displeasure of being in half the time.
In this game I do not experience the lag so many people complain about so I can not relate to that. |
Summa Militum
Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance
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Posted - 2015.03.22 06:09:00 -
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Thumb Green wrote:[quote=Summa Militum]
You are bringing up a good point. You are at least making an effort for some period of time in the match. Those who don't make any effort drive people like you out of the match and then people like me, who are too stubborn to quit, are left trying to do the work of 4 or 5 people. I was people like you for 2 years, the 1st of those years I was diehard people like you playing daily from 10-12pm to down time running the best fits I could. But there's only so much bullshit even the most stubborn person can take before they get tired of it and say fck it.
[quote=Flint Beastgood III]
I am only 11 months into this game. The bullshit in this game hasn't beaten me down yet. |
Summa Militum
Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance
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Posted - 2015.03.23 03:18:00 -
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jane stalin wrote:CELESTA AUNGM wrote:A very nice effort, Summa. Like I observed and predicted in an earlier thread, I think you are on your way to being one of the Dust Masters.
Realistically, your attempts will only motivate SOME of the players who read this. . I disagree, I would be surprised if he "helped" ANYONE. He is not addressing any of the reasons the actual players leave and all the players that actually like "just getting one kill" were not going to leave anyway.
What do you mean you would be surprised if I "helped" anyone?
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Summa Militum
Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance
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Posted - 2015.03.24 16:57:00 -
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Gyn Wallace wrote:Ghosts Chance wrote:... that way at least i make the win as boring as possible for them.
its just not a fun match, there's no competition in it and there's no hope for having any halfway decent fights, its really not worth 20 minutes of my time. There's really no arguing with this. Leaving instances of bad match making is the smart choice. The OP shouldn't stay in that match either. By staying in badly made matches, the OP is just reducing the population available for the match making system to queue into a better balanced match.
I am not running away from a challenge like you people. Staying in those protostomp matches only makes me a better player.
NO RETREAT, NO SURRENDER! |
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