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Luk Manag
of Terror TRE GAFFEL
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Posted - 2015.03.20 14:34:00 -
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Leaving the battle isn't the answer. The pool of players is too small. As sad and unfortunate as it is to recognize an enemy you can't beat, being able to recognize a threat and run away is part of the game. CCP even advises it in a tool tip, so check your target's info, and run away if you are outclassed. *recognition of the types of rep tools helps... If they have multiple reps going, your ONLY chance is the extreme alpha strike weapons (RE, PC, FG). If you don't have the right weapon to beat the rep train, run away.
If you put together a full squad of vets the only thing that will beat them is another full squad of vets. The potential imbalance is exacerbated with random n00bs who might charge into a 0/13 slaughter. They'll do that until they quit or learn not to do that.
There will be bullets. ACR+SMG [CEO of Terror]
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norttheantiv
Negative-Feedback.
179
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Posted - 2015.03.20 14:42:00 -
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Albyat Tyre wrote:For all of you who run proto in public matches. You all are total deuche bags. You can try to argue about how everyone else needs to get better. No. You need to quit running proto in public . It is Your fault that people will not stay to play this game. Run a basic suit in public and learn to play for fun not your kdr. I blame all the proto stompers for messing up this game. No need to argue. Your point is moot.
To all you poor people who run basic in pub matches, stop being poor.
People stop playing this game as people are too cheap to run good gear in pubs and ruin isk payouts for those who are not hyper- conservative misers.
Winner EU Squad Cup
Go Go Power Rangers!
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Takahiro Kashuken
Red Star.
4340
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Posted - 2015.03.20 14:52:00 -
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I have to run a basic HAV.
I don't get a BPO HAV to abuse.
My basic HAV costs me 1.2mil and 40mil SP to use.
I wish i could protostomp with a prototype HAV.
Disclaimer:
The above post is respectful, contains no ranting, contains no personal attacks, contains no trolling, contains no racism, contains no discrimination, contains no profanity, contains no spamming. This post is an opinion and is related to DUST514
CCP Rattati - "One giant vehicle nerf with more power to AV", you have got to be kidding...''
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Denchlad 7
Negative-Feedback.
1832
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Posted - 2015.03.20 15:09:00 -
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>Rich af >No point keeping money forever >Has given over a billion isk away >Still rich af >Need to use remainder up >?? >lolProto 24/7 get rek-rich kid.
"Dench stop hitting your head you Caldari pinball" - m621 zma
Currently on Dust hiatus.
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DDx77
The Exemplars
174
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Posted - 2015.03.20 16:04:00 -
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There is no "militia/adv only" mode, this is CCP's design ATM
People play in teams and don't want to lose and also want to be a effective part of that team. There is nothing douchey (sp?) about that is there?
I hate getting stomped too (debatable weather using officer gear in pubs is douche) But it's usually a team that you lose to or it's a lack of a good team for why you lost.
So I think your (everyone's) issues are matchmaking and lack of modes that are friendly to new/intermediate players
I run adv gear 90% of the time (I'm thrifty:)
You have to understand that running anything but proto is inefficient
For example, When you add a complex dmg mod to an adv weapon, you are more or less giving it the dmg profile of its proto counterpart but without the increased optimal range
So why not ditch the complex mod and just use the proto weapon? The fitting requirements are higher, right? And proto suits solve that issue
May the Dark shine your way
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Spkr4theDead
Red Star.
3085
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Posted - 2015.03.20 16:38:00 -
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Albyat Tyre wrote:For all of you who run proto in public matches. You all are total deuche bags. You can try to argue about how everyone else needs to get better. No. You need to quit running proto in public . It is Your fault that people will not stay to play this game. Run a basic suit in public and learn to play for fun not your kdr. I blame all the proto stompers for messing up this game. No need to argue. Your point is moot. I'm all for having meta-locked balancing.
Nope. Confirming that pilot input is not, and never was, valued. - Breakin Stuff
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Operative 1174 Uuali
Y.A.M.A.H
525
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Posted - 2015.03.20 16:54:00 -
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Well, there is a difference in running proto for enjoyment as a solo or casual and running it standard with a proto squad. As in, premeditated.
Death is a serious businessGǪ So is running a shoddy, half-baked game company.
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Leadfoot10
Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance
3578
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Posted - 2015.03.20 17:34:00 -
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Operative 1174 Uuali wrote:Well, there is a difference in running proto for enjoyment as a solo or casual and running it standard with a proto squad. As in, premeditated.
I don't follow.... How does it matter from the crushee's perspective? They're stomped either way.
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SteelheadPep
The Hundred Acre Hood
192
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Posted - 2015.03.20 18:46:00 -
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Thor Odinson42 wrote:SteelheadPep wrote:If they chase everyone away from the game then they will be the king of nothing! I think it is fitting for them, think long term or enjoy your empty game. It's the lack of persistant higher level game modes rather than the players' fault for trying to win games. I have a hard time playing and not caring about winning or losing. If I think I need to bring out the big guns to push my team over the top, I will. On top of not having things to distract veteran players from stomping pubs the payouts don't reward players for trying to push against the odds and earning a win. More than new players getting run off, it's veteran players who refuse to participate when they see a tough squad on the other side. I leave matches now if solo against a good squad. I used to take it as a challenge, now I know that my dot on the map might be the only one outside the redline. I think it's lazy and ignorant to blame the skilled, less casual players of the game for all the problems. Unfortunately, many veteran players still care about their KDR. They want to wipe new players off the map to pad their egos, it is a feeding frenzy, this gets old fast with many players, Isk is not a problem with veterans, so what would be the rational (because you can) is a poor excuse in my book. I enjoy a bar fight match that has bodies flying everywhere on both sides, would it be that much trouble to dial it back abit and maybe help newer players (the few that stay) instead of bullying them constantly. |
Xocoyol Zaraoul
Superior Genetics
3660
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Posted - 2015.03.20 19:01:00 -
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In an environment where a quarter of the world has nukes, no one will be the first to disarm.
"You see those red dots over there?
Go and shoot them until you see a +50 on the screen" - Arkena Wyrnspire
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Knight Solitaire
786
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Posted - 2015.03.20 19:15:00 -
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I've never denied it. Cry some more, pls.
Justice4Redberry
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Luk Manag
of Terror TRE GAFFEL
695
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Posted - 2015.03.20 19:40:00 -
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Just as a reminder, some other fps games forced 'Auto Balance' on matches while they were still going. You could be winning solidly and then all of the sudden you would be on the other team. It prevents or reduces stomping, but ruins squad play.
There will be bullets. ACR+SMG [CEO of Terror]
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Thor Odinson42
Negative-Feedback
6270
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Posted - 2015.03.20 22:21:00 -
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Luk Manag wrote:Leaving the battle isn't the answer. The pool of players is too small. As sad and unfortunate as it is to recognize an enemy you can't beat, being able to recognize a threat and run away is part of the game. CCP even advises it in a tool tip, so check your target's info, and run away if you are outclassed. *recognition of the types of rep tools helps... If they have multiple reps going, your ONLY chance is the extreme alpha strike weapons (RE, PC, FG). If you don't have the right weapon to beat the rep train, run away.
If you put together a full squad of vets the only thing that will beat them is another full squad of vets. The potential imbalance is exacerbated with random n00bs who might charge into a 0/13 slaughter. They'll do that until they quit or learn not to do that.
This just isn't true. The small playerbase and the number of solo players doesn't lead to as many squad stomps as people make it sound. Many times its a squad with a bunch of horrible blue dots trying to fend off 16 solo veteran players.
I went through a stretch a week or so ago where I lost like 8 matches in a row with a beast squad. We'd have over a hundred kills in the squad and lose. |
Thor Odinson42
Negative-Feedback
6270
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Posted - 2015.03.20 22:23:00 -
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Luk Manag wrote:Just as a reminder, some other fps games forced 'Auto Balance' on matches while they were still going. You could be winning solidly and then all of the sudden you would be on the other team. It prevents or reduces stomping, but ruins squad play.
This would be cool if it did it with entire squads. Maybe a special gamemode.
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Thor Odinson42
Negative-Feedback
6270
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Posted - 2015.03.20 22:25:00 -
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SteelheadPep wrote:Thor Odinson42 wrote:SteelheadPep wrote:If they chase everyone away from the game then they will be the king of nothing! I think it is fitting for them, think long term or enjoy your empty game. It's the lack of persistant higher level game modes rather than the players' fault for trying to win games. I have a hard time playing and not caring about winning or losing. If I think I need to bring out the big guns to push my team over the top, I will. On top of not having things to distract veteran players from stomping pubs the payouts don't reward players for trying to push against the odds and earning a win. More than new players getting run off, it's veteran players who refuse to participate when they see a tough squad on the other side. I leave matches now if solo against a good squad. I used to take it as a challenge, now I know that my dot on the map might be the only one outside the redline. I think it's lazy and ignorant to blame the skilled, less casual players of the game for all the problems. Unfortunately, many veteran players still care about their KDR. They want to wipe new players off the map to pad their egos, it is a feeding frenzy, this gets old fast with many players, Isk is not a problem with veterans, so what would be the rational (because you can) is a poor excuse in my book. I enjoy a bar fight match that has bodies flying everywhere on both sides, would it be that much trouble to dial it back abit and maybe help newer players (the few that stay) instead of bullying them constantly.
I hear you, I'm just saying that people should focus their QQ toward CCP getting something rewarding for the vets to do. PC is almost completely dead. |
JAKE REDBLOOD
T.H.I.R.D R.O.C.K
59
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Posted - 2015.03.20 22:40:00 -
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U know what, who cares? Run whatever the fuk u want. The game is dead and never going anywhere.
My YouTube Channel
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Luk Manag
of Terror TRE GAFFEL
707
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Posted - 2015.03.22 11:20:00 -
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JAKE REDBLOOD wrote:U know what, who cares? Run whatever the fuk u want. The game is dead and never going anywhere.
Eve Online was like that, always promising more, but it was just like a long beta. They said they would add Titans, and they did it.
There will be bullets. ACR+SMG [CEO of Terror]
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LOOKMOM NOHANDS
Warpoint Sharx
317
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Posted - 2015.03.22 11:33:00 -
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good job feeding them tears.
At least one extra person is going to proto stomp today laughing at hoping to make someone else make a thread like this. |
Krixus Flux
Kang Lo Directorate Gallente Federation
536
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Posted - 2015.03.22 12:00:00 -
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VAHZZ wrote:You'd still die to a militia, stop b!tch'n and try harder or quit. Complaining only hurts you. I kill proto with MLT, gg.
Bro, you dudes need the new players here or else the game won't properly survive. Developers know this. You got the ultra hardcore spending countless hours on Dust and then there is everybody else whom make up the majority of the playerbase. The dudes aren't asking for handouts but just want a fair chance. This must be considered if CCP wants to go to PS4. Dudes will stop playing and play other titles that doesn't punish for not being in clan, not running proto, and lessening your SP gain for lackluster efforts.
While SOCOM was fun, where is it now? While bros loved MAG, where is it now? Yet more user friendly FPS MP are franchises on consoles and are still highly successful while hardcore shooters are stuff of "remember when?".
Not everybody wants to be a try hard bro.
Saying what's on people's minds
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