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Sigourney Reever
Hyasyoda Terrestrial Acquisitions Firm
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Posted - 2015.03.18 19:28:00 -
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CommanderBolt wrote:I love this idea but I really think we should think of them in terms of "Rigs" or "Rigging" like in EVE. (Extra slots that grant bonuses like you have imagined however they usually come with small drawbacks.) The PLC for instance would not benefit from any low % of clip size. However it could have a rig module that Increase PLC charge up time and or reload speed in exchange for less total ammo or for a slightly lower damage output. You could also have "Rigs" for splash weapons that increase splash range in exchange for direct damage, or perhaps another module might be an increase in direct damage in exchange for splash damage or splash radius.... The list of ideas that we could conjure up for weapon mods or "Rigs" is a long happy one 
like this:
https://trello.com/c/QQqbNGrt/310-salvager-role |
Lenz Hong
Blood-Titans
E-R-A
6
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Posted - 2015.03.20 09:22:00 -
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Any of this could be achieved with Skill tree change? Where is Damage Mod (i can't remember the name..) could be Weapon mods and could be as this.
Weapon Mod)
->(Lvl.1) Damage Mod, also could have RoF penalty by default
->(Lvl. 3) Clip/Magazine Mod (2% more bullets in it), Reload speed changer, bigger magazine, slower reload speed
->(Lvl. 3) Range Mod (2% range bonus) ??
Considering that the other modules are more specific, it could be as another skill in the weapon tree
AR/CR/SMG - Sharpshooter (as it is) and grant access to the module (which, maxed out, helps to decrease, idk, 50% of the dispersion)
ScR/LR/IoP - Heat BuildUp (new skill) helps to decrease, idk, 50% of the heat buildup)
and so on..
Also, could have the fitting in the weapons, (weapons with high/low modules and "equipments" as silencers and scopes) and the modules using the weapon CPU/PG.
Example:
Assault Rifle - 30.93 Dmg/Shot and 23CPU/3PG
Single High slot, Low slot module and a equipment slot, coudl be:
Assault Rifle - [Damage Mod (15Cpu/3PG, 3%Dmg - 5%RoF) | Small Magazine (3Cpu/0PG, 80% of default magazine, +10%Reload Speed) or Large Magazine (3Cpu/0PG, 115% of default magazine, -10% reload speed) | The TaC-AR/Burst-AR scope)
well.. a weapon fitting can help to all have a better defense and also have a better offense.. but how could be the penalties? |
Breakin Stuff
Goonfeet
Special Planetary Emergency Response Group
7678
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Posted - 2015.03.20 09:45:00 -
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Russel Mendoza wrote:Magasine size no.
clip size yes.
reduce dispersion yes.
reduce recoil kick no.
range up hell no. Please no. Gonna be a facking nightgmare.
heat sink yes.
scope yes. Dot sight please.
silencer so much better.
Magazine, no... clip yes?
Dude what the hell are you about? There isn't a single weapon in DUST that uses a "clip."
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Breakin Stuff
Goonfeet
Special Planetary Emergency Response Group
7678
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Posted - 2015.03.20 09:48:00 -
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Iron Wolf Saber wrote:Range stat though is a massively heavy stat; as they can easily provide immunity which outweighs every other defensive measure feasible.
Range stats in DUST are abysmal. Every single weapon, save for sidearms and forge guns needs at minimum 40% increase to range and optimal.
Range adds are only idiotic because base ranges of weapons in DUST are nosebleedingly short.
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Fizzer XCIV
Tal-Romon Legion
Amarr Empire
2750
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Posted - 2015.03.20 09:48:00 -
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Breakin Stuff wrote:Russel Mendoza wrote:Magasine size no.
clip size yes.
reduce dispersion yes.
reduce recoil kick no.
range up hell no. Please no. Gonna be a facking nightgmare.
heat sink yes.
scope yes. Dot sight please.
silencer so much better. Magazine, no... clip yes? Dude what the hell are you about? There isn't a single weapon in DUST that uses a "clip."
Mass Drivers technically use a "clip".
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Breakin Stuff
Goonfeet
Special Planetary Emergency Response Group
7678
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Posted - 2015.03.20 09:53:00 -
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Only by the most loose definition.
And the magazine increases would be too low to benefit things like mass drivers and forge guns.
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KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf
Dominion of the Supreme Emperor God-King KAGEHOSHI
12195
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Posted - 2015.03.20 15:09:00 -
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Breakin Stuff wrote:Only by the most loose definition.
And the magazine increases would be too low to benefit things like mass drivers and forge guns.
Was already acknowledged in the OP, it's not meant for those weapons.
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KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf
Dominion of the Supreme Emperor God-King KAGEHOSHI
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Posted - 2015.03.20 16:25:00 -
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Updated OP a bit.
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Maiden selena MORTIMOR
Amarr Templars
Amarr Empire
356
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Posted - 2015.03.20 17:14:00 -
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Like
no im not a mortedeamor alt..im her slave
When my master is banned I represent her wishes and that of the Mortimor famil
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Maiden selena MORTIMOR
Amarr Templars
Amarr Empire
356
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Posted - 2015.03.20 17:15:00 -
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Breakin Stuff wrote:Iron Wolf Saber wrote:Range stat though is a massively heavy stat; as they can easily provide immunity which outweighs every other defensive measure feasible. Range stats in DUST are abysmal. Every single weapon, save for sidearms and forge guns needs at minimum 40% increase to range and optimal. Range adds are only idiotic because base ranges of weapons in DUST are nosebleedingly short.
Lol lr would have a range of over 140
no im not a mortedeamor alt..im her slave
When my master is banned I represent her wishes and that of the Mortimor famil
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Boot Booter
Titans of Phoenix
1211
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Posted - 2015.03.20 17:34:00 -
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Breakin Stuff wrote:Iron Wolf Saber wrote:Range stat though is a massively heavy stat; as they can easily provide immunity which outweighs every other defensive measure feasible. Range stats in DUST are abysmal. Every single weapon, save for sidearms and forge guns needs at minimum 40% increase to range and optimal. Range adds are only idiotic because base ranges of weapons in DUST are nosebleedingly short.
Range may be short but I don't think this is the time to dispute that.
IWS, range is important but you've missed the point I believe. The old sharpshooter had no drawbacks, it was simply spend sp and be better. Range mods are different because you would need to sacrifice slots to fit, they could be made low slots with high fitting capacity to balance, and also could be given a set drawback like increased recoil or decreased magazine size. Range is indeed powerful but in today's dust, scouts can nullify range by sneaking and flanking, many objectives are CQC, and suits are capable of punching through range with high hp, speed, and the help of some cover.
I don't believe saying range didn't work before so it won't work now is a viable argument given how many things have changed. |
KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf
Dominion of the Supreme Emperor God-King KAGEHOSHI
12222
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Posted - 2015.03.22 10:10:00 -
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pew pew
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KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf
Dominion of the Supreme Emperor God-King KAGEHOSHI
12255
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Posted - 2015.04.14 20:03:00 -
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Still want
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KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf
Dominion of the Supreme Emperor God-King KAGEHOSHI
12286
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Posted - 2015.04.21 07:09:00 -
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Anyone else want?
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Georgia Xavier
Y.A.M.A.H
335
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Posted - 2015.04.21 13:44:00 -
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I still do
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Fralin Tredis
DUST University
Ivy League
0
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Posted - 2015.04.21 13:49:00 -
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Ammo expanders plus heat sinks on a laser...
*evil laughter*
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Georgia Xavier
Y.A.M.A.H
335
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Posted - 2015.04.21 13:53:00 -
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Fralin Tredis wrote:Ammo expanders plus heat sinks on a laser...
*evil laughter*
use a Viktor's NEG and put that on an assault Ak.0 then you will find out how the amarr enslaved the min
Dust 514: Unlimited Scrub Works
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KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf
Dominion of the Supreme Emperor God-King KAGEHOSHI
12
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Posted - 2015.07.05 16:46:00 -
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Still want
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Alena Ventrallis
Commando Perkone
Caldari State
3
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Posted - 2015.07.05 22:09:00 -
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I would have raw damage mods in the lows, and dispersion/recoil mods in the highs.
Over thinking, over analyzing separates the body from the mind.
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Jenni Welsh
Reincarnation Incorporated
11
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Posted - 2015.07.06 05:30:00 -
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I would also like to see this... range, reload, fire rate, stability, etc. The point is if I wanna be a pure attack martyr then I should be able to. :) |
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Mex-0
Corrosive Synergy
765
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Posted - 2015.07.06 12:14:00 -
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But then what if you stack the range mods on a shotty... it'll be like a kill from 30 meters away.
If I insult you in some way, it's probably by accident.
probably.
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KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf
Dominion of the Supreme Emperor God-King KAGEHOSHI
12
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Posted - 2015.07.06 20:05:00 -
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Mex-0 wrote:But then what if you stack the range mods on a shotty... it'll be like a kill from 30 meters away.
I'm guessing you didn't actually do the math.
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Terry Webber
Molon Labe.
RUST415
781
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Posted - 2015.07.06 22:29:00 -
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Take a look at this thread by Aeon.
https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=203659
Inertial Booster Module
Vehicle Installation
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True Adamance
Praetoriani Classiarii Templares
Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
19
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Posted - 2015.07.06 23:05:00 -
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Georgia Xavier wrote:Fralin Tredis wrote:Ammo expanders plus heat sinks on a laser...
*evil laughter*
use a Viktor's NEG and put that on an assault Ak.0 then you will find out how the amarr enslaved the min
We waited until a storm wracked the entirety of their planet, blew the hell out of their military installations, and enslaved billions of people who had no hope of fighting back.
Likely there were no laser rifles as we know them involved.
Em shah tey et naGÇÖemsaer ek rahvi, amarr osedah gasi ubday pahk. Ekin tey vahka ijed div ema ziel. Et tey vamatal em.
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Mex-0
Corrosive Synergy
778
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Posted - 2015.07.07 00:27:00 -
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KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf wrote:Mex-0 wrote:But then what if you stack the range mods on a shotty... it'll be like a kill from 30 meters away. I'm guessing you didn't actually do the math.
Math isn't my strong suit... 
Now that I think of it, I don't really have a strong suit...
If I insult you in some way, it's probably by accident.
probably.
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Cyzad4
Blackfish Corp.
844
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Posted - 2015.07.07 17:44:00 -
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IDK if anyone mentioned this, I didn't bother reading every page, but if you go to low slots in fittings now there's a section for "weapon mods". Could mean there's something in the works, could also just be a glitch.
Look on my works, ye mighty, and despair.
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Aeon Amadi
Negative-Feedback.
Negative-Feedback
11
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Posted - 2015.07.07 18:27:00 -
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Kagehoshi, I propose we combine forces for the ultimate Weapon overhaul!
https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=2791009#post2791009
10% of US schools no longer teach Cursive. A decade from now, 10% of the US isn't going to understand all the squiglies.
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