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Apocalyptic Destroyer
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Posted - 2015.04.30 03:22:00 -
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Bump because swarms are he'll of annoying right now. Something seriously needs to be done.
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Apocalyptic Destroyer
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Posted - 2015.04.30 17:45:00 -
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Juno Tristan wrote:Stefan Stahl wrote:Juno Tristan wrote:I am concerned that there could be 3 sets of swarms in the air before I know they're incoming, but if swarmers have to face the target when firing it could increase the time between the 1st and 2nd volleys.
Could you model 2 swarmers in the new versus current setup? I wouldn't want that ttk to increase With a single Swarmer those suggested numbers shouldn't change anything about how much damage you have to tank if you decide to flee. Two swarmers (right next to each other) firing at a hovering DS would also behave the same under the new and current speed parameters. You will eat at least 4 volleys of Swarms if you AB away after the first impact. So no change there. During one of the posted catmaDB dumps it was revealed that Swarm Launchers appear to have a parameter that dictates how far away you can look from a target after lock on before said lock is lost. It's currently at 90-¦. On top of that there was a parameter that appears to dictate how quickly the lock is lost after the first criteria is struck, which is at "1.0" if I remember correctly - I interpreted it as seconds when I read it. Fumbling with those parameters would surely help make SLs more logical to operate. I'm sorry but I don't have a link to that source right now. Maybe somebody else knows what I'm referring to. That assumes people use an AB, (and I understand that is the meta) but I don't think it should be something we base future proposals on If you ignore the whole 'killed by the redline' thing this video explains what I mean, quicker swarms would mean they would have killed me as I'm using the reps over the distance travelled Against 2 swarmers
The only way to evade swarms is with an AB. That's another problem I find is that both Dropships, the Incubus and Python must use an afterburner. So in reality the incubus only has 3 Lows and the Python 3 Highs. With the python you're even more restricted because you have to use a PG upgrade
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Apocalyptic Destroyer
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Posted - 2015.04.30 17:48:00 -
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Stefan Stahl wrote:bogeyman m wrote:Stefan Stahl wrote:With a SL right now no amount of pilot skill will keep you alive as long as you are within lock-on range. [...]As a solo swarmer, I can reliably get two volleys in the air before a DS inevitably hits it's hardeners (after the first volley hits) and flys away, regens and returns.[...] With "as long as you are within lock-on range" I meant to imply "... and stay there". As in: Either you hit the magic AB-button early enough and always survive or don't and always lose. I don't think swarms are in any way too powerful against DS or ADS right now. They are just boring gameplay. Hence the above suggestion. Also, thanks to Mr. Apocalyptic Destroyer for the bump.
Not a problem. Me and Dead Cavino have been discussing Dropships and AV frequently now and have concluded that swarms are just ridiculously too fast. They get the third lock on too fast and not only that but there are restrictions as I mentioned above concerning the ADS.
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Apocalyptic Destroyer
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Posted - 2015.05.01 21:05:00 -
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bogeyman m wrote:Breakin Stuff wrote:Faster swarm travel means more time between impacts to react oddly, But the faster the swarms, the less degrees-per-second turn radius they should have. at 85 m/s I'd actually recommend dropping the turn radius to 30 degrees/sec so that dodging the swarms is not only possible, but if a rebound shot is made by the warheads they don't get to pull it more than once.
The warheads need to be seekers that home in on the target. they do NOT need to be boomerangs that come back multiple times for seconds and thirds. I would really like one of those boomerang swarms... That's Swarm Launcher Operations level 6, right?
Actually Swarms go boomerang around your vehicle. It's a glitch.
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Apocalyptic Destroyer
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Posted - 2015.05.07 18:07:00 -
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Bump cause this thread has numbers and graphs and is constructive
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Apocalyptic Destroyer
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Posted - 2015.08.06 07:37:00 -
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Tesfa Alem wrote:bumped. This is too good of an idea to die. Month 4.
Month 5
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Apocalyptic Destroyer
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Posted - 2015.12.01 07:36:00 -
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I'm going to just bump this thread here
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