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Summa Militum
Hidd3n Dragon
279
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Posted - 2015.03.15 01:53:00 -
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Because you can lose every match, regardless of the gamemode, due to clone depletion. So all you people who don't care about your KDR in the sense that it leads you to end a match with 18 deaths and 1 kill can go **** yourself. Your bitchass fucks up your teammates W/L ratio with your bullshit.
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DUST Fiend
16030
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Posted - 2015.03.15 01:56:00 -
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Or.
You could try, not caring.
It's ******* awesome.
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xavier zor
0uter.Heaven
858
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Posted - 2015.03.15 01:58:00 -
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how bad were the blueberries this time little Johnny?
lol, yes no matter how good/bad your team is getting 30+ kills and not pushing alpha still helps to win
retired
stabbed musturd, duna, radar, tibs
returning December 2015 yay
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Big Daigo
Caldari State
51
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Posted - 2015.03.15 02:15:00 -
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I stopped caring long ago..
Even castles made of sand fall into the sea eventually.
For the State.
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Summa Militum
Hidd3n Dragon
280
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Posted - 2015.03.15 02:22:00 -
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DUST Fiend wrote:Or.
You could try, not caring.
It's ******* awesome.
I bet you are one of them. You disgust me, sir. |
Nocturnal Soul
Primordial Threat
5933
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Posted - 2015.03.15 02:25:00 -
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See the deference between me and a blue is that I have the knowledge, sp, and isk to make the best check their 6 every time they see my name in the kill feed. When your on top all you can do is look down upon the masses and laugh as they struggle to reach a goal you yourself have broken countless of times over... Enjoy your climb
(Gê¬n+Ç-´)GèâGöüGÿån+ƒ.pâ+n+ín+ƒ.
LASERS BTCH!!!!!!
The Incursions are back... and they're golden baby!
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DUST Fiend
16034
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Posted - 2015.03.15 02:28:00 -
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Summa Militum wrote:DUST Fiend wrote:Or.
You could try, not caring.
It's ******* awesome. I bet you are one of them. You disgust me, sir. I actually fly and troll around in tanks, I barely die (but oh do I die)
But, I don't care about my KD or W/L because this is a niche game that no one who matters cares about, sooo....
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SoTa PoP
Heaven's Lost Property
6266
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Posted - 2015.03.15 02:30:00 -
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Summa Militum wrote:Because you can lose every match, regardless of the gamemode, due to clone depletion. So all you people who don't care about your KDR in the sense that it leads you to end a match with 18 deaths and 1 kill can go **** yourself. Your bitchass fucks up your teammates W/L ratio with your bullshit.
You tryhards make me sad.
It's a free to play game and I'll play it how I damn want because it's worth every penny I put into it.
n+ÅS¦¦Gùò GÇ+GÇ+ GùòS¦¦n++ I watch anime for the plot
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JARREL THOMAS
Dead Man's Game RUST415
499
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Posted - 2015.03.15 02:32:00 -
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Summa Militum wrote:Because you can lose every match, regardless of the gamemode, due to clone depletion. So all you people who don't care about your KDR in the sense that it leads you to end a match with 18 deaths and 1 kill can go **** yourself. Your bitchass fucks up your teammates W/L ratio with your bullshit.
K/D...
Caldari Loyalist. buff swarms...
D
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One Eyed King
Nos Nothi
8508
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Posted - 2015.03.15 02:35:00 -
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Except for the fact that a majority of MCC based games like Domination and Skirmish are rarely one via clone count.
Not to mention that Duna has an incredibly high KDR, which by your logic should equal a significantly high W/L ratio, but that isn't the case. My KDR is lower than 1, but my W/L ratio is above, and well above that of Duna.
KDR is insignificant.
Former CEO of the Land of the BIind.
Any double entendre is unintended I assure you.
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JARREL THOMAS
Dead Man's Game RUST415
499
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Posted - 2015.03.15 02:35:00 -
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Summa Militum wrote:Because you can lose every match, regardless of the gamemode, due to clone depletion. So all you people who don't care about your KDR in the sense that it leads you to end a match with 18 deaths and 1 kill can go **** yourself. Your bitchass fucks up your teammates W/L ratio with your bullshit.
Tells us why KDR is usefull
Tells us because it affects W/L ratio
Caldari Loyalist. buff swarms...
D
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danthrax martin
Immortal Guides Learning Alliance
320
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Posted - 2015.03.15 03:34:00 -
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DUST Fiend wrote:Summa Militum wrote:DUST Fiend wrote:Or.
You could try, not caring.
It's ******* awesome. I bet you are one of them. You disgust me, sir. I actually fly and troll around in tanks, I barely die (but oh do I die) But, I don't care about my KD or W/L because this is a niche game that no one who matters cares about, sooo.... Truth dust fiend, you know it.
Suicidal A/V Moron
Future Corporate Raider
80+mil SP
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Joseph Ridgeson
WarRavens
3355
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Posted - 2015.03.15 03:45:00 -
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There is a chasm difference between "I don't think KDR is too important" and "you will always lose due to clone depletion." That is no different than saying "if Logistics are so important, why can't we win if we only have Logistics!"
"Oh, Swarm Launchers are too powerful? Then why did we lose to the team that didn't have any vehicles?"
"This is B.S! This is B.S! I paid money! Cash money, dollars money, cash money!"
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Vicious Minotaur
2164
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Posted - 2015.03.15 03:48:00 -
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I don't think ratios are that important outside of maths and maybe fields that use maths to affect real life.
I am a minotaur.
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Joel II X
Bacon with a bottle of Quafe
6690
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Posted - 2015.03.15 03:52:00 -
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DUST Fiend wrote:Or.
You could try, not caring.
It's ******* awesome. This. I usually don't care. |
Operative 1174 Uuali
Y.A.M.A.H
506
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Posted - 2015.03.15 04:36:00 -
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Summa Militum wrote:Because you can lose every match, regardless of the gamemode, due to clone depletion. So all you people who don't care about your KDR in the sense that it leads you to end a match with 18 deaths and 1 kill can go **** yourself. Your bitchass fucks up your teammates W/L ratio with your bullshit.
Yeah, let me tell my wife, kids and my boss that worrying about my kdr in a video game matters. Lol. Grow up!
Death is a serious business. So is running a shoddy, half-baked game company.
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Taeyeon Seyun
DUST University Ivy League
40
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Posted - 2015.03.15 04:38:00 -
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Uh oh sounds like someone has a case of the grumpies. If you need a hug let me know. I have been told I give wonderful hugs that cheers anyone up.
LogiSis in training.
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DUST Fiend
16046
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Posted - 2015.03.15 04:41:00 -
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Taeyeon Seyun wrote:Uh oh sounds like someone has a case of the grumpies. If you need a hug let me know. I have been told I give wonderful hugs that cheers anyone up. I'm just gonna go ahead and hope that it's cuz you have a wonderful chest, whilst also not being a male.
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Banjo Robertson
Random Gunz RISE of LEGION
486
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Posted - 2015.03.15 04:41:00 -
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Summa Militum wrote:Because you can lose every match, regardless of the gamemode, due to clone depletion. So all you people who don't care about your KDR in the sense that it leads you to end a match with 18 deaths and 1 kill can go **** yourself. Your bitchass fucks up your teammates W/L ratio with your bullshit.
its your job to keep the people off my back when i'm hacking the point because nobody else is going for the point, stop killing me with your lack of killing enemies! *sarcastic mode off* hehehe |
Xocoyol Zaraoul
Superior Genetics
3608
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Posted - 2015.03.15 05:10:00 -
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Summa Militum wrote:Because you can lose every match, regardless of the gamemode, due to clone depletion. So all you people who don't care about your KDR in the sense that it leads you to end a match with 18 deaths and 1 kill can go **** yourself. Your bitchass fucks up your teammates W/L ratio with your bullshit.
When I stopped caring so much about KDR (now it is WP/D I care about) my enjoyment of the game increased tenfold. Hilariously my KDR dropped from 6, to now a bit over 4, which is higher then yours with you caring about your KDR so much...
As long as you're not dying so much that you're spending more time walking back to the action then actually participating, you're doing just fine, and a Logi keeping his team alive with reps hives needles and links but only going 1/2 with 2500 WP is still a damn sight more useful then some random nut going 7/0 with 400 WP.
KDR doesn't mean crap, otherwise we'd all be singing praises to the redline sniper gods taking potshots at militia.
Win/Loss, WP/D, isk efficiency and having fun are what matters, KDR is merely a tool to the end, not the path itself. And honestly winning only means anything in PC and FW, in pubs it is literally meaningless.
"You see those red dots over there?
Go and shoot them until you see a +50 on the screen" - Arkena Wyrnspire
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7 Djin
The Hundred Acre Hood RISE of LEGION
59
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Posted - 2015.03.15 06:34:00 -
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Summa Militum wrote:Because you can lose every match, regardless of the gamemode, due to clone depletion. So all you people who don't care about your KDR in the sense that it leads you to end a match with 18 deaths and 1 kill can go **** yourself. Your bitchass fucks up your teammates W/L ratio with your bullshit.
Lol tard , clone depletion has everything to do with team play and keeping tight and not dying like a blueberry and nothing to do with kdr. Get gud scrub |
LOOKMOM NOHANDS
Warpoint Sharx
239
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Posted - 2015.03.15 08:32:00 -
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Hire a proto logi to follow you with a needle and see how many clones you lose versus your number of deaths. |
nelo kazuma
Da Short Buss Driving School
39
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Posted - 2015.03.15 11:20:00 -
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Summa Militum wrote:Because you can lose every match, regardless of the gamemode, due to clone depletion. So all you people who don't care about your KDR in the sense that it leads you to end a match with 18 deaths and 1 kill can go **** yourself. Your bitchass fucks up your teammates W/L ratio with your bullshit.
A lil harsh but get what you mean I hate losing matches due to either inexperienced or reckless players so padding your kdr is cool n all.I will say this though I run people who are semi newish to game have less variety in there suits so if they lets say skill only logi or scout with semi ok skill n get wrecked due to their lack of support its not entirely their fault |
VALCORE72
Dead Man's Game RUST415
244
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Posted - 2015.03.15 11:31:00 -
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umm mabe time to run suicide corp on a alt just to force a lost . ummm i smell asian dunas . yea im running sqds of this lol 6 dead every 10 secs lol muhaha |
Georgia Xavier
Y.A.M.A.H
82
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Posted - 2015.03.15 11:42:00 -
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Teamwork>KDR
this is how its always been in dust. Having 6 KDR doesn't matter if you lose the game anyway
How many amarr does it take to change a light bulb? none. The minmatar do it for them
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Flint Beastgood III
Dead Man's Game RUST415
1504
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Posted - 2015.03.15 11:48:00 -
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One Eyed King wrote:Except for the fact that a majority of MCC based games like Domination and Skirmish are rarely won via clone count.
Not to mention that Duna has an incredibly high KDR, which by your logic should equal a significantly high W/L ratio, but that isn't the case. My KDR is lower than 1, but my W/L ratio is above, and well above that of Duna.
KDR is insignificant.
Well put.
Skills - https://www.facebook.com/notes/flint-beastgood-iii/list-of-trained-skills/416505058477164
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Flint Beastgood III
Dead Man's Game RUST415
1504
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Posted - 2015.03.15 11:54:00 -
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LOL. Glad this guy has been firmly put in his place.
Skills - https://www.facebook.com/notes/flint-beastgood-iii/list-of-trained-skills/416505058477164
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JARREL THOMAS
Dead Man's Game RUST415
505
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Posted - 2015.03.15 13:26:00 -
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I have a feeling we've been trolled.
Caldari Loyalist. buff swarms...
D
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Chayser
Rautaleijona
197
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Posted - 2015.03.15 14:33:00 -
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In Rautaleijona we say "Fck the KDR, We are going in" I bet many times you can see that from the numbers, but oh boy we have a lots of FUN playing this game!
We provide... VICTORY!
[ www.RAUTALEIJONA.com - Peliyhteisö rautaisille pelaajille. ]
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JJ'S
Krusual Covert Operators Minmatar Republic
17
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Posted - 2015.03.15 16:48:00 -
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People used to care about KD/R and W/L ratio... We all thought EVE players where gonna make decisions on who they would invest ISK into for what job based on personal stats of individuals in a group.
CCP never implemented any direct relation or action and consequence... Or even the feeling that we are participating in the New Eden Sandbox to have an affect or change on the game in anyway....
It's gone, the Future of that possibility is gone.
KD/R now is only used for a benchmark for players to join a competitive corporation actively participating in PC... having logistics recruitment at 2.0 and slayers at 3+
Mainly because recruitment and deployment of players in PC has to contain a certain amount of faith that the player sin't throwing their life away to get results.. As Loosing clones unnecessarily can cost you the match and ISK payout for everyone.
The Average Vet doesn't care about KD/R anymore.. They care about dieing to a scrub? Or dieing excessively to win match where a majority of the team is useless. That is about the extent of it |
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Summa Militum
Hidd3n Dragon
284
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Posted - 2015.03.15 17:43:00 -
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JARREL THOMAS wrote:Summa Militum wrote:Because you can lose every match, regardless of the gamemode, due to clone depletion. So all you people who don't care about your KDR in the sense that it leads you to end a match with 18 deaths and 1 kill can go **** yourself. Your bitchass fucks up your teammates W/L ratio with your bullshit.
K/D...
Nice meme their buddy. You wanna know how I help my team secure objectives? I kill the enemies guarding the objective and then I hack the objective myself. |
Alena Ventrallis
Ahrendee Inc. Negative-Feedback
2713
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Posted - 2015.03.15 17:45:00 -
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KDR has never mattered. ISK efficiency matters. That's why I have several completely BPO suits built. I can die 25 times a match and never lose a single penny. I kill your proto suit 3 times in a match and you're losing money. Keep running proto and letting my free suits kill you, your bank runs dry and mine just keeps getting bigger and bigger.
ISK efficiency is the ultimate sign of skill. If my basic suit can kill your proto suit, whose the better player?
Listen to my muscle memory
Contemplate what I've been clinging to
Forty-six and two ahead of me
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Summa Militum
Hidd3n Dragon
284
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Posted - 2015.03.15 17:46:00 -
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One Eyed King wrote:Except for the fact that a majority of MCC based games like Domination and Skirmish are rarely won via clone count.
Not to mention that Duna has an incredibly high KDR, which by your logic should equal a significantly high W/L ratio, but that isn't the case. My KDR is lower than 1, but my W/L ratio is above, and well above that of Duna.
KDR is insignificant.
I primarily play Ambush where KDR is very significant. |
gustavo acosta
Capital Acquisitions LLC Bad Intention
1049
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Posted - 2015.03.15 17:50:00 -
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Summa Militum wrote:One Eyed King wrote:Except for the fact that a majority of MCC based games like Domination and Skirmish are rarely won via clone count.
Not to mention that Duna has an incredibly high KDR, which by your logic should equal a significantly high W/L ratio, but that isn't the case. My KDR is lower than 1, but my W/L ratio is above, and well above that of Duna.
KDR is insignificant. I primarily play Ambush where KDR is very significant. Even though it still isn't significant in ambush either. Doesn't matter how much anyone can slay as long as the team with the better logis keep saving the clones.
GimmeDatSuhWeet isk
We found a new pope to teach shield users how to shield tank, all hail pope redblood the 6th
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Summa Militum
Hidd3n Dragon
284
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Posted - 2015.03.15 17:58:00 -
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One Eyed King wrote:Except for the fact that a majority of MCC based games like Domination and Skirmish are rarely won via clone count.
Not to mention that Duna has an incredibly high KDR, which by your logic should equal a significantly high W/L ratio, but that isn't the case. My KDR is lower than 1, but my W/L ratio is above, and well above that of Duna.
KDR is insignificant.
Duna has a 4.21 W/L ratio. His KDR is high because he cruises around in tanks all the time.
Are you not able to reasonably assess the stats a particular player has in relation to the role they play in this game? |
SgtMajSquish MLBJ
Consolidated Dust
386
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Posted - 2015.03.16 05:25:00 -
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Summa Militum wrote:Because you can lose every match, regardless of the gamemode, due to clone depletion. So all you people who don't care about your KDR in the sense that it leads you to end a match with 18 deaths and 1 kill can go **** yourself. Your bitchass fucks up your teammates W/L ratio with your bullshit.
you can go back to CoD if you KDR matters so much to you
One cannot carry hatred without having once loved. NKing the forums one thread at a time
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John Psi
Vacuum Cleaner. LLC Steel Balls Alliance
1428
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Posted - 2015.03.16 05:37:00 -
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KDR no matter. I know legal way to improve your results more than doubled. It's not a cybersport and never was.
Please support fair play!
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DUST Fiend
16089
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Posted - 2015.03.16 05:39:00 -
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THIS is why KDR matters
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SgtMajSquish MLBJ
Consolidated Dust
387
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Posted - 2015.03.16 05:40:00 -
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exactly. KDR is for e-peen purposes only
One cannot carry hatred without having once loved. NKing the forums one thread at a time
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John Psi
Vacuum Cleaner. LLC Steel Balls Alliance
1428
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Posted - 2015.03.16 05:44:00 -
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576p, speed 8 m/s, aim assist <==== this, why KDR no matters.
Please support fair play!
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Nothing Certain
Bioshock Rejects
1583
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Posted - 2015.03.16 10:16:00 -
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Summa Militum wrote:Because you can lose every match, regardless of the gamemode, due to clone depletion. So all you people who don't care about your KDR in the sense that it leads you to end a match with 18 deaths and 1 kill can go **** yourself. Your bitchass fucks up your teammates W/L ratio with your bullshit.
Yeah, I'm sure those guys going 1-18 are just loving it and doing it to annoy you. You should really ***** at them and make them feel bad for it because that is what a cool guy would do.
Because, that's why.
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Colossus of Sardia
Mithril Forge E-R-A
24
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Posted - 2015.03.16 13:21:00 -
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I sacrificed my KDR for ISK (used militia suits for a long time and still do occasionally)... Now I'm rich and I regret nothing. BTW I know so many squad players which high KDR but solo they fail miserably. |
rpastry
Dead Man's Game
282
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Posted - 2015.03.16 14:16:00 -
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Some time after the proud day I got my KDR to 1.00 I got hooked chasing KDR, it became the one statistic I judged myself on. I felt I was progressing with the game. I played cautiously but still to win, the risk of dying became an adrenaline rush which drove me to survive, and to kill effectively.
I set myself goals to reach. I hit them. I played with squads, I protostomped, I played solo. It kept going up. I hit 3,3 and a half,4,5,6 and finally 7. I peaked at 7.15. 'I am reasonably good at this' I thought. It was fun.
Then It started going backwards. I panicked. My play style became dominated with conserving my KDR. It stopped being fun. I was backsliding, it fell back to 6.99. I stopped playing.
I played an alt. I played to win, I played for lols. It became fun again. I started playing my main again. Slumming it in basic suits had sharpened me slightly. I got the KD back to 7.02. I was satisfied, but realized I was still having more fun on my alt running cheap suits and not caring.
The irony?
My W/L is about the same on both characters.
[Removed ASCII Art - CCP Logibro]
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Mad Syringe
ReDust Inc.
518
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Posted - 2015.03.16 14:53:00 -
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My biggest gripe with people who are fixed on their KDR, is when they roam around hunting down the scattered reds, just to leave your ass alone protecting the objective... I've lost games because those slayers couldn't be asked to stick to the objective. And often it's the guys who protect the node, that get killed to hold the reds of.
Sometimes they just bugger of because they have no more ammo, leaving their comrades on their own, while I can't count the times I have suicided to get more ammo on a fresh suit. That's the difference betwheen a team player and a selfish slayer.
Sometimes, these cowards make me feel sick, but that's it, some people like to pad their stats, and some like to play the objective.
I must say though, that you see this behaviour mostly in pubs, since in PC at least the good players know when it's time to sacrifice a suit, to get the ojective. |
Summa Militum
Hidd3n Dragon
284
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Posted - 2015.03.16 18:51:00 -
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7 Djin wrote:Summa Militum wrote:Because you can lose every match, regardless of the gamemode, due to clone depletion. So all you people who don't care about your KDR in the sense that it leads you to end a match with 18 deaths and 1 kill can go **** yourself. Your bitchass fucks up your teammates W/L ratio with your bullshit.
Lol tard , clone depletion has everything to do with team play and keeping tight and not dying like a blueberry and nothing to do with kdr. Get gud scrub
Notice how you said not dying like a blueberry. Do you not see how that has a direct correlation with a KDR?
The problem I am seeing with a lot of you is that for some reason in your mind if someone cares about their KDR it means that is the only thing they view to determine if they are skilled or not. My primary objectives in this game is to win the match and score at the top of the leaderboards.
In the OMS Ambush match I had played that led me to start this thread as a means to vent 3 people on my team died close to 50 times combined; their kill count combined was 4. Those 3 people lost that match for the rest of the team and the KDR is a clear indication of that. |
GLOBAL RAGE
Consolidated Dust
137
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Posted - 2015.03.16 21:37:00 -
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Summa Militum wrote:Because you can lose every match, regardless of the gamemode, due to clone depletion. So all you people who don't care about your KDR in the sense that it leads you to end a match with 18 deaths and 1 kill can go **** yourself. Your bitchass fucks up your teammates W/L ratio with your bullshit.
KDR is a metric that directly influences players behavior. I argue that it is pointless, because of the bad behavior ie not hacking, not destroying equipment, snipping and others.
I play 100% BPO in a Standard suit 95% of the time, my life time KDR is 1.4, and enjoy objective pubs. I am always pushing, and everyone can get a piece of me-I am noob friendly!
I love DUST and frown upon my corp mates running anything higher than advanced, and have a self-imposed rule to not run PROTO in pubs. I can OMNI 5 proto suits and thier fittings.
If you love DUST, and you say you're HARDCORE FPS, then pick up my challenge.
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Summa Militum
Hidd3n Dragon
284
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Posted - 2015.03.16 22:01:00 -
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GLOBAL RAGE wrote:Summa Militum wrote:Because you can lose every match, regardless of the gamemode, due to clone depletion. So all you people who don't care about your KDR in the sense that it leads you to end a match with 18 deaths and 1 kill can go **** yourself. Your bitchass fucks up your teammates W/L ratio with your bullshit.
KDR is a metric that directly influences players behavior. I argue that it is pointless, because of the bad behavior ie not hacking, not destroying equipment, snipping and others. I play 100% BPO in a Standard suit 95% of the time, my life time KDR is 1.4, and enjoy objective pubs. I am always pushing, and everyone can get a piece of me-I am noob friendly! I love DUST and frown upon my corp mates running anything higher than advanced, and have a self-imposed rule to not run PROTO in pubs. I can OMNI 5 proto suits and thier fittings. If you love DUST, and you say you're HARDCORE FPS, then pick up my challenge.
I used to run a standard fit in Ambush matches to gain ISK quickly. Now I am able to gain ISK quickly using an advanced fit. I use proto suits sometimes because...why the hell not? I skilled into prototype suits and weapons so that I can use them. I don't have time to wait 5 to 15 minutes just to get into a FW match just so I can use my proto suits. As a solo player it takes a long time for me to get into a FW match but I can get into a public match real quick. |
Mex-0
T.H.I.R.D R.O.C.K
471
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Posted - 2015.03.16 22:04:00 -
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Summa Militum wrote:DUST Fiend wrote:Or.
You could try, not caring.
It's ******* awesome. I bet you are one of them. You disgust me, sir.
The funny thing is, DUST fiend is a dedicated Dropshipper.
The only time I've seen him die is out side of his dropship.
Gû¼+¦GòÉGòÉn¦ñ
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One Eyed King
Nos Nothi
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Posted - 2015.03.16 22:09:00 -
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Summa Militum wrote:One Eyed King wrote:Except for the fact that a majority of MCC based games like Domination and Skirmish are rarely won via clone count.
Not to mention that Duna has an incredibly high KDR, which by your logic should equal a significantly high W/L ratio, but that isn't the case. My KDR is lower than 1, but my W/L ratio is above, and well above that of Duna.
KDR is insignificant. I primarily play Ambush where KDR is very significant. You can't generalize the whole game based around one game mode, particularly when the higher end game modes like FW and PC do not involve ambush.
Even in Ambush, a Logi repping a heavy can have a significant effect on a match while going KDR negative.
It would be more appropriate to say that KDR is very significant in Ambush, it is not appropriate to say KDR is significant generally.
Former CEO of the Land of the BIind.
Any double entendre is unintended I assure you.
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Mad Syringe
ReDust Inc.
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Posted - 2015.03.16 22:46:00 -
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Summa Militum wrote: In the OMS Ambush match I had played that led me to start this thread as a means to vent 3 people on my team died close to 50 times combined; their kill count combined was 4. Those 3 people lost that match for the rest of the team and the KDR is a clear indication of that.
The reason for that is however not their personal skill, but their personal amount of SP and ISK, so not their ability.
The KDR of a noob is bad because this game is built that way, and if they want to play ambush, they'll probably die a lot.
The only way to fix that, would be to put all the diehard KDR dudes in one match, and all the low kdr guys in another. But since the player numbers are too low, this will not happen. So suck it and live with it. the stompers make the low SP players die a lot, which leads to most of them leaving the game, which in return, makes it much harder for scotty to give us balanced games.
This won't change, and I still don't care about people who think their kdr is worth ****!
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Nirwanda Vaughns
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Posted - 2015.03.16 23:14:00 -
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And for every 'great' player with an impressive KDR there's usually a great logi behind them keeping them alive in order to get that KDR
Never argue with an idiot. they bring you down to their level and beat you through experience
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JJ'S
Krusual Covert Operators Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2015.03.17 18:03:00 -
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Nirwanda Vaughns wrote:And for every 'great' player with an impressive KDR there's usually a great logi behind them keeping them alive in order to get that KDR
Keep telling yourself that.
Logi's didn't even exist really in DUST for a while.
The 'great players' are the ones that get the same results no matter what.. PC... Public match... Similar KD/R... Alot of the players today think because they can get decent scores in Pubs they are good.
That makes them a pubstar... There are alot of those... The players that can jump in PC with 16 good players on the otherside working as a team and still kill 30 and die 3-4 times are the 'great players' .
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