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Juno Tristan
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Posted - 2015.03.14 22:55:00 -
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Rather than ruin a feedback thread I thought I'd post this here. (and is only my opinion on what happened and is a bit of a rant)
Judge was elected to the CPM and with the high percentage of the vote, was given a strong mandate to apply the analysis he had shown in his videos to the game
CCP Rattati thought, **** it, Pythons are performing too well in this anti armour AV environment, lets bust out the CCP nerf hammer (which is double sided to allow that also 'buff the counter of the thing we're nerfing')
Judge, upon realising they weren't going to listen to him, thought **** it and quit the game
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Viktor Hadah Jr
Negative-Impact Back and Forth
7416
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Posted - 2015.03.14 23:04:00 -
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lol
CBM
EVE, Dust & Corp Services
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Xocoyol Zaraoul
Superior Genetics
3607
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Posted - 2015.03.14 23:05:00 -
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k
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Go and shoot them until you see a +50 on the screen" - Arkena Wyrnspire
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General Mosquito
Kinsho Swords Caldari State
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Posted - 2015.03.14 23:29:00 -
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rails still have 300m range, argument is invalid
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Joel II X
Bacon with a bottle of Quafe
6685
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Posted - 2015.03.14 23:31:00 -
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Juno Tristan
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Posted - 2015.03.14 23:35:00 -
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General Mosquito wrote:rails still have 300m range, argument is invalid
Sniper rifles only have a 400m(?) range, it's more to do with the redline
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Aeon Amadi
Chimera Core
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Posted - 2015.03.14 23:36:00 -
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Thanks for the history refresher..?
Anyway, this just goes to show that the community was blinded by celebrity and voted for someone who was genuinely worthless as a CPM candidate. Hopefully the community will learn from that mistake and actually vote for someone with legitimate merit instead of 20+ videos talking about how awesome the ADS is.
Am I being harsh? Of course. Dude wasted a spot on the CPM that could have gone to someone that could have really made a difference. That's like the biggest kitten you to the community you can possibly make.
Can't wait to see the lunatic the community votes for in CPM 2.
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Joel II X
Bacon with a bottle of Quafe
6685
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Posted - 2015.03.14 23:42:00 -
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Juno Tristan wrote:General Mosquito wrote:rails still have 300m range, argument is invalid
Sniper rifles only have a 400m(?) range, it's more to do with the redline 450m max. |
Juno Tristan
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Posted - 2015.03.14 23:42:00 -
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Aeon Amadi wrote:Thanks for the history refresher..?
Anyway, this just goes to show that the community was blinded by celebrity and voted for someone who was genuinely worthless as a CPM candidate. Hopefully the community will learn from that mistake and actually vote for someone with legitimate merit instead of 20+ videos talking about how awesome the ADS is.
Am I being harsh? Of course. Dude wasted a spot on the CPM that could have gone to someone that could have really made a difference. That's like the biggest kitten you to the community you can possibly make.
Can't wait to see the lunatic the community votes for in CPM 2.
I like to compare it to the Boris Johnson and London Mayoral elections, people will vote for personality.
Personally, I just a bit annoyed at the moment with the 'buff what's UP at the same time as nerf what's OP' that keeps going on
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DUST Fiend
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Posted - 2015.03.14 23:42:00 -
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Judge will always be the best CPM to me.
Fly safe bro, wherever you are now.
Hope to see you in Star Citizen with the men
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SoTa PoP
Heaven's Lost Property
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Posted - 2015.03.14 23:43:00 -
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Juno Tristan wrote:Rather than ruin a feedback thread I thought I'd post this here. (and is only my opinion on what happened and is a bit of a rant)
Judge was elected to the CPM and with the high percentage of the vote, was given a strong mandate to apply the analysis he had shown in his videos to the game
CCP Rattati thought, **** it, Pythons are performing too well in this anti armour AV environment, lets bust out the CCP nerf hammer (which is double sided to allow that also 'buff the counter of the thing we're nerfing')
Judge, upon realising they weren't going to listen to him, thought **** it and quit the game I'm going to be as hostile as possible, so feel free to ignore this post...
Judge is the single biggest idiot I've ever seen. This game is much more then just ******* dropships and he isn't the authority on them to begin with - he's not even competitive himself with them, he's just a ******* pub stomper.
True ADS in this game right are considered game changers in the exact time he said he quit because CCP wouldn't listen about Drop ships, do you realize that? That Dropships are the single most devastating role in Planetary Conquest? And he quit over... it not being better? FFS he needs brain surgery and anyone who supports or agree with his non-sense needs to have there balls cut off and prevented from reproducing.
The guy is a complete idiot and we're better off without his cry-hard ass.
n+ÅS¦¦Gùò GÇ+GÇ+ GùòS¦¦n++ I watch anime for the plot
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Juno Tristan
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Posted - 2015.03.15 00:46:00 -
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SoTa PoP wrote:Juno Tristan wrote:Rather than ruin a feedback thread I thought I'd post this here. (and is only my opinion on what happened and is a bit of a rant)
Judge was elected to the CPM and with the high percentage of the vote, was given a strong mandate to apply the analysis he had shown in his videos to the game
CCP Rattati thought, **** it, Pythons are performing too well in this anti armour AV environment, lets bust out the CCP nerf hammer (which is double sided to allow that also 'buff the counter of the thing we're nerfing')
Judge, upon realising they weren't going to listen to him, thought **** it and quit the game I'm going to be as hostile as possible, so feel free to ignore this post... Judge is the single biggest idiot I've ever seen. This game is much more then just ******* dropships and he isn't the authority on them to begin with - he's not even competitive himself with them, he's just a ******* pub stomper. True ADS in this game right are considered game changers in the exact time he said he quit because CCP wouldn't listen about Drop ships, do you realize that? That Dropships are the single most devastating role in Planetary Conquest? And he quit over... it not being better? FFS he needs brain surgery and anyone who supports or agree with his non-sense needs to have there balls cut off and prevented from reproducing. The guy is a complete idiot and we're better off without his cry-hard ass.
I think he quit more over how it was handled, as in rattati's decree
I get that Pythons are still effective, but do you not see a problem with it being balanced around Pythons and Swarms? a shield vehicle versus a -20/+20 weapon profile.
PLC are the only handheld shield AV and they're not good a hitting dropships
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TEBOW BAGGINS
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Posted - 2015.03.15 00:54:00 -
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yea as so has most pilots has said fuk this bs.. he wasn't all that anyway. he had access to make videos and champion himself on youtube. the dude flew like basic ass was the consensus among the other pilots who didn't champion on youtube. the rest of you pedastooled him into some godlike status the same way you do for this COD dev who in his own words says EVE has really nothing to do with DUST so why should they even relate.. |
Vell0cet
OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention
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Posted - 2015.03.15 01:05:00 -
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I voted for Judge (among others). I didn't agree with some of his stuff, but he put a lot of time and passion into his videos. I believed he would put the same dedication into the CPM. I was wrong and I very much regret voting for him.
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Juno Tristan
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Posted - 2015.03.15 01:10:00 -
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Vell0cet wrote:I voted for Judge (among others). I didn't agree with some of his stuff, but he put a lot of time and passion into his videos. I believed he would put the same dedication into the CPM. I was wrong and I very much regret voting for him.
but i think that's my point, he put a lot of time and passion into the game and was met with a "nope"
Judge actually proposed increasing swarm speed, but not at the same time as nerfing the afterburner and turret RoF
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SoTa PoP
Heaven's Lost Property
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Posted - 2015.03.15 01:18:00 -
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Juno Tristan wrote:Vell0cet wrote:I voted for Judge (among others). I didn't agree with some of his stuff, but he put a lot of time and passion into his videos. I believed he would put the same dedication into the CPM. I was wrong and I very much regret voting for him. but i think that's my point, he put a lot of time and passion into the game and was met with a "nope" Judge actually proposed increasing swarm speed, but not at the same time as nerfing the afterburner and turret RoF A lot of us have put in a lot more time and passion that requires more work then pressing the record button then uploading something unto youtube.
And we've been getting nope'd for 3+ years.
This guy isn't special, he's just another spoiled kid.
n+ÅS¦¦Gùò GÇ+GÇ+ GùòS¦¦n++ I watch anime for the plot
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Pokey Dravon
OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention
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Posted - 2015.03.15 01:19:00 -
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Juno Tristan wrote:Rather than ruin a feedback thread I thought I'd post this here. (and is only my opinion on what happened and is a bit of a rant)
Judge was elected to the CPM and with the high percentage of the vote, was given a strong mandate to apply the analysis he had shown in his videos to the game
CCP Rattati thought, **** it, Pythons are performing too well in this anti armour AV environment, lets bust out the CCP nerf hammer (which is double sided to allow that also 'buff the counter of the thing we're nerfing')
Judge, upon realising they weren't going to listen to him, thought **** it and quit the game
And the second a representative of the community that I'm part of decides to quit, he is not longer representing me, so why should I care about him?
He was away for quite a long time apparently due to family reasons, that's fine. Changes happened that he was not around for so he was unable to advise against it. So instead of fighting to reverse changes he felt unjust, he rage quits. Someone who throws a temper tantrum when he doesn't get what he wants and instead bails on the people he was supposedly goign to fight for, is not a good representative. That's just being a child.
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Mossellia Delt
Militaires Sans Jeux
2351
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Posted - 2015.03.15 01:19:00 -
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*whistles while walking along*
Delt for CPM2
CPM1 MISSION : FAILED
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DUST Fiend
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Posted - 2015.03.15 01:21:00 -
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SoTa PoP wrote:Juno Tristan wrote:Vell0cet wrote:I voted for Judge (among others). I didn't agree with some of his stuff, but he put a lot of time and passion into his videos. I believed he would put the same dedication into the CPM. I was wrong and I very much regret voting for him. but i think that's my point, he put a lot of time and passion into the game and was met with a "nope" Judge actually proposed increasing swarm speed, but not at the same time as nerfing the afterburner and turret RoF A lot of us have put in a lot more time and passion that requires more work then pressing the record button then uploading something unto youtube. And we've been getting nope'd for 3+ years. This guy isn't special, he's just another spoiled kid. But unlike many players, his time and passion was put into helping other people, and hunting facts
Vs just being an idiot and posting random crap that doesn't matter to anyone.
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SoTa PoP
Heaven's Lost Property
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Posted - 2015.03.15 01:24:00 -
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DUST Fiend wrote:SoTa PoP wrote:Juno Tristan wrote:Vell0cet wrote:I voted for Judge (among others). I didn't agree with some of his stuff, but he put a lot of time and passion into his videos. I believed he would put the same dedication into the CPM. I was wrong and I very much regret voting for him. but i think that's my point, he put a lot of time and passion into the game and was met with a "nope" Judge actually proposed increasing swarm speed, but not at the same time as nerfing the afterburner and turret RoF A lot of us have put in a lot more time and passion that requires more work then pressing the record button then uploading something unto youtube. And we've been getting nope'd for 3+ years. This guy isn't special, he's just another spoiled kid. But unlike many players, his time and passion was put into helping other people, and hunting facts Vs just being an idiot and posting random crap that doesn't matter to anyone. Like me :D we all help as we can, he just choose a more popular avenue to do so.
And what 'help' is a guy who will abandon you as soon as he gets told no? lol
n+ÅS¦¦Gùò GÇ+GÇ+ GùòS¦¦n++ I watch anime for the plot
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Juno Tristan
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Posted - 2015.03.15 01:25:00 -
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SoTa PoP wrote:Juno Tristan wrote:Vell0cet wrote:I voted for Judge (among others). I didn't agree with some of his stuff, but he put a lot of time and passion into his videos. I believed he would put the same dedication into the CPM. I was wrong and I very much regret voting for him. but i think that's my point, he put a lot of time and passion into the game and was met with a "nope" Judge actually proposed increasing swarm speed, but not at the same time as nerfing the afterburner and turret RoF A lot of us have put in a lot more time and passion that requires more work then pressing the record button then uploading something unto youtube. And we've been getting nope'd for 3+ years. This guy isn't special, he's just another spoiled kid.
but you weren't elected...
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Juno Tristan
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Posted - 2015.03.15 01:27:00 -
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Pokey Dravon wrote:Juno Tristan wrote:Rather than ruin a feedback thread I thought I'd post this here. (and is only my opinion on what happened and is a bit of a rant)
Judge was elected to the CPM and with the high percentage of the vote, was given a strong mandate to apply the analysis he had shown in his videos to the game
CCP Rattati thought, **** it, Pythons are performing too well in this anti armour AV environment, lets bust out the CCP nerf hammer (which is double sided to allow that also 'buff the counter of the thing we're nerfing')
Judge, upon realising they weren't going to listen to him, thought **** it and quit the game And the second a representative of the community that I'm part of decides to quit, he is not longer representing me, so why should I care about him? He was away for quite a long time apparently due to family reasons, that's fine. Changes happened that he was not around for so he was unable to advise against it. So instead of fighting to reverse changes he felt unjust, he rage quits. Someone who throws a temper tantrum when he doesn't get what he wants and instead bails on the people he was supposedly going to fight for, is not a good representative. That's just being a child.
yeah, I'm not defending the rage quit, just trying to speculate on what happened
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Grimmiers
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Posted - 2015.03.15 01:32:00 -
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The 20 minute long national geographic style videos explaining a simple idea were always funny to me. They remind me of the family guy cutaway with the fire truck hunting the antelope.
I feel like the dev team and the cpm were just never in their prime at the same time, so even if he wanted to help there would be no resources to flush out his ideas. |
DUST Fiend
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Posted - 2015.03.15 01:33:00 -
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SoTa PoP wrote:we all help as we can, he just choose a more popular avenue to do so.
And what 'help' is a guy who will abandon you as soon as he gets told no? lol I prefer to think of him as someone who, like me, holds just as much rage as love for this game.
Couple that with a totally unresponsive CPM and CCP when it comes to his speciality, along with his family issues, and I say he made the perfect choice. This is a game. A not very good one at that. He shouldn't put unneeded stress on himself for it, and I commend him for stepping down instead of wearing himself into the ground for a thankless cause.
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SoTa PoP
Heaven's Lost Property
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Posted - 2015.03.15 01:35:00 -
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Juno Tristan wrote:SoTa PoP wrote:Juno Tristan wrote:Vell0cet wrote:I voted for Judge (among others). I didn't agree with some of his stuff, but he put a lot of time and passion into his videos. I believed he would put the same dedication into the CPM. I was wrong and I very much regret voting for him. but i think that's my point, he put a lot of time and passion into the game and was met with a "nope" Judge actually proposed increasing swarm speed, but not at the same time as nerfing the afterburner and turret RoF A lot of us have put in a lot more time and passion that requires more work then pressing the record button then uploading something unto youtube. And we've been getting nope'd for 3+ years. This guy isn't special, he's just another spoiled kid. but you weren't elected... Because I'm vocal enough on my own that i don't need a tag to know CCP is hearing what I'm saying.
CPM's job is to organize our opinions and present it to CCP to better help the communication and growth of the game. It wasn't to make decisions on there own to begin with.
Judge is just a class-A-******.
n+ÅS¦¦Gùò GÇ+GÇ+ GùòS¦¦n++ I watch anime for the plot
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hold that
Capital Acquisitions LLC Bad Intention
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Posted - 2015.03.15 01:37:00 -
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oh man i had a power outage for over a month, oh man that was little brother playing destiny while i had a power outage, oh man that live stream isn't me playing it's just me commentating, oh man now that i can't go 40-0 in a ads pub i quit the game |
SoTa PoP
Heaven's Lost Property
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Posted - 2015.03.15 01:37:00 -
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DUST Fiend wrote:SoTa PoP wrote:we all help as we can, he just choose a more popular avenue to do so.
And what 'help' is a guy who will abandon you as soon as he gets told no? lol I prefer to think of him as someone who, like me, holds just as much rage as love for this game. Couple that with a totally unresponsive CPM and CCP when it comes to his speciality, along with his family issues, and I say he made the perfect choice. This is a game. A not very good one at that. He shouldn't put unneeded stress on himself for it, and I commend him for stepping down instead of wearing himself into the ground for a thankless cause. yea...cept he knew all that as he was running for CPM - Judge has been around as long as I have, he's not ignorant of the time constraint CPM would put on him or that it traps him into a game he doesn't really like.
It was the same comments we gave Zatara when he was elected, "Haha, now you're stuck with that PoS game!" And he has stuck with it, and he has shown you can be gone for months and still do your CPM duties.
Judge just simply pulled a **** move on everyone
n+ÅS¦¦Gùò GÇ+GÇ+ GùòS¦¦n++ I watch anime for the plot
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DUST Fiend
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Posted - 2015.03.15 01:40:00 -
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You can all be mad, he's still the coolest cat here, even when he's not here.
Carry on o7
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Juno Tristan
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Posted - 2015.03.15 02:01:00 -
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SoTa PoP wrote:Juno Tristan wrote:SoTa PoP wrote:Juno Tristan wrote:Vell0cet wrote:I voted for Judge (among others). I didn't agree with some of his stuff, but he put a lot of time and passion into his videos. I believed he would put the same dedication into the CPM. I was wrong and I very much regret voting for him. but i think that's my point, he put a lot of time and passion into the game and was met with a "nope" Judge actually proposed increasing swarm speed, but not at the same time as nerfing the afterburner and turret RoF A lot of us have put in a lot more time and passion that requires more work then pressing the record button then uploading something unto youtube. And we've been getting nope'd for 3+ years. This guy isn't special, he's just another spoiled kid. but you weren't elected... Because I'm vocal enough on my own that i don't need a tag to know CCP is hearing what I'm saying. CPM's job is to organize our opinions and present it to CCP to better help the communication and growth of the game. It wasn't to make decisions on there own to begin with. Judge is just a class-A-******.
but by being elected (and by a sizeable margin) it adds legitimacy to his opinions and approach to the game
to make it relateable
if you were to campaign on the basis of, bring more Anime influence into dust, people got behind your message and elect you to the CPM.
Once elected you are greeted with the CCP feedback, "nope, don't really watch it, but this guy here says Anime is just tentacle ****" you wouldn't be too happy
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Funkmaster Whale
Whale Pod
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Posted - 2015.03.15 02:03:00 -
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I really don't understand the purpose of the CPM for a game with such a low active population and an even lower population that gives feedback via the forums.
Like, I would be surprised if even 5% of the player pop comes to the forums, and of that 5% that comes to forums only about 10% of them ever give any meaningful feedback instead of just trolling and whining.
What's the point of it all? Like, does it really take an elected body to tell the developers "Hey, X is OP and should be nerfed a bit". It just seems really silly to me. Then people just scapegoat the CPM for "not listening to the concerns of the players" or whatever.
As for Judge, I think he was just an overall awful candidate. Making 20 minute long videos droning on about something that could be summarized in a few sentences and whining about your favorite toy constantly doesn't qualify you to critique all aspects of this game. He was literally capable of nothing but flying an ADS. His gungame was nonexistent. You don't pick someone like that to aid balancing a game as complex as this.
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