CELESTA AUNGM
Kang Lo Directorate
Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2015.03.15 01:16:00 -
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 Part of me is glad to see DS threads like this calmly commence,GǪ but I think it is a bit too early to make any suggestions without getting your nose out of joint when CCP mostly ignores these early thread-ideas.
Don't misunderstand me,GǪ I anticipate the devs will ignore these threads NOT because they have contempt or lack of value in these ideas. They will HAVE to ignore them, because your ideas are based on keeping the current Dropship profiles and "roles" we have now.
GǪMy expectation is that the current DS models can't survive in the new Echo-style vehicle gameplay.
Hoping that DS players can fit on the battlefield simply doing sporadic transport (with much uplink-delivery now challenged by the new moonjumpers), and Air-HAV (the fantasy that some ADS drivers have been enjoying, that may soon be challenged by plasma-A/V training),GǪ that's something that I don't think we should rely on and try proposing readjustments for.
Instead, I'm betting (and personally hoping) CCP has decided to rework the whole DS "purpose/possibilities" mindset in the game. They may have already made that decision. We'll find out soon.
If Lavs have just been re-presented to us as vehicles we should be considering for Recon-Scanning and less fattie-cabGǪ
And the decision has just been made that your full-size HAV MUST have free seats to allow teammate interaction, or drive a snub-nose version that comes with a fitting-penaltyGǪ
Dropships are bound (and need) to have all new suggested purposes as part of their restoration in the game. Perhaps mobile-supply depot for infantry and vehicles, or mobile-triage for infantry, or jobs that truly funnel us towards more blue-assist and a bit less red-hunt.
Might not be a good idea to put yourself through too much effort trying to re-stat the air vehicles we own now.
Universe of good wishes for the 49, especially CCP Eterne...
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CELESTA AUNGM
Kang Lo Directorate
Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2015.03.16 07:15:00 -
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GǪGǪGǪ..
 GǪGǪGǪ.
GǪGǪGǪ.. How many pages was the dev-thread for HAV Progression? 100+ pages? I didn't read through much of it, but I can imagine the discussion was as heated as Rattati hinted it was.
I still think, right now is a little too early for individual players (ANY of us) to stand up and post "facts" about the Dropship's quality and things it deserves. It's always a bad idea to (and too easy to) fall into the impression that you're representing the views of your fellow vehicle-players. Especially when it comes to the DS.
I get a feeling that, if we trace Dust 514 back far enough, we'll find that DS players (yep, I will count myself as guilty too) were the first players to get nipple-fixation over their Dust toy, and, wellGǪum, we are guilty of letting our cocky idea of flying get in the way of:
--Agreeing on some fundamentals that we like about the fitting-slots and module-stacking, which can help the devs toward creating a Progression the way they've established for HAVs.
--Getting CCP a consensus set of "jobs" or functions for the DS, which had begun being debated back in 2013, but repeatedly gets derailed in a gasoline fire.
--Earning much healthy social-cooperation or gameplay respect from the players who drive OTHER vehicles or who happen to do OTHER jobs in this infantry-game besides "Dropship Piloting".
I personally don't think these player-authored threads will survive any better than the 2013 threadsGǪ not until Rattati starts his own official Dropship-Progression thread. And even then, pleaseGǪ. we're gonna have to swallow a LOT of humble pie amongst ourselves in order to manage a serious thread.
Let the Devs handle the cpu/pg reworking, and perhaps let them handle the modules and Skilling rework too.
Take a breather and lay off the AVers a bit (they aren't as big an enemy to us as we have been to ourselves).
I know we've often felt ignored before,GǪ but this time finally the devs DO want to start discussing the DS; maybe let's let Rattati choose which parts they want to discuss and how.
(ugh, I'm sounding like Gandhi, or something )
It's just that, if HAV-Progression took 100 pages to debate, I just don't want our chance at restoring DS to end up 500+ pages and a Dev-failure due to too much of our own,GǪ.well, "pilot righteousness".
Universe of good wishes for the 49, especially CCP Eterne...
No story can have life without writers and publishers.
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