Not gonna lie last time we tried to explain how to balance ads with av you chose to listen to Av over actual pilots and the result now is the almost never escaping swarms that can 2~3 shot us. Well at least xeno what his face isn't here going on about how every ads is going 80/0

I love that this thread gets a Blue Tag while several other reasonable threads about Swarm and/or ADS balance get ignored. I especially love that the Blue Tag is essentially, "lol be quiet and do the things you've already done so I can ignore them again."



Love,
Bittervet.

The assumption of ignored is because threads like this, which are expressing resentment, get a Dev coming in and having a go where other threads that express reasonable ideas (some are better than others and some need work, but the ideas and presentation are reasonable) get 'ignored' - maybe instead of commenting on a negative thread, you can comment on a positive thread, even if it's a simple, " I have looked at this" post.

There's no big thread, that I'm aware of, but there are many related suggestions:
Juno Tristan's Swarm operation changes. While not specifically an ADS thread, it is a large factor of why DS pilots so vehemently hate Swarms - that they are so incredibly simple to use while being arguably the most effective AV weapon. This thread talks about changing it such that both Swarmer and all vehicle users can use some skills in the fight.

My own thread about Small Missiles and ADSs given after you asked for community proposed stats. Intended to separate AP and AT small missiles to make them less jack-of-all-trades and make the AP variant much more strafing run-y.

Another of my own, about the skills involved in the ADS tree and also some work on small turret variants.

Thread by Breakin Stuff asking for help with modifying DS modules and stats.

Godin Thekiller's ideas about bonusing Dropships to make people want to be transported.

Another quality of life change suggested by DUST Fiend. A warning system for already travelling Swarms since, again, they are the biggest offenders in V/AV non-enjoyment.

An idea to increase the efficacy of teamwork in a dropship by Kaeru Nayiri.

Some feedback and a conclusion from Foxhound Elite about dropship HP

There are some older threads that I do not have the energy to dredge up from the depths of the forum (from now on I'll have to use my Favourites/Subscribing more aggressively) but hopefully these show you that there are many ideas that are not merely whinging and are actually contributory in respectful ways...that apparently get ignored when you're perfectly happy to come and rag on a thread like this.