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CEOPyrex CloneA
The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar
DARKSTAR ARMY
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Posted - 2015.03.12 21:36:00 -
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Wow this fix made me even want to log into the forums to rage, that's quite an achievement but i have just concluded 10 or so rounds of play of the new patch and i am almost staggered by what CCP have done.
The TLDR version of this is that their core game was taken seriously by many of the renaming few who play still and this seriously 'gun game' element was competitive and aggressive and therefore good.
This patch has made the game step far too close to comparison with the free to play games of Steam which are all pretty much terrible and really horrid cash grabs with game play not lost on those who remember Quake team arena but lacking the quality.
Dust 514 now feels like an aged and 'corny' ironic shooter that sits in the gutter looking up in awe at huge piles of excrement like Destiny and try to cherry pick the odd feature here and there to glue to its frame so that it also will be considered a cool kid.
The Warbarge - a shocking cash grab based on seeing Clash of Clans create 'bases' that the user upgrades and lusts over, soon i expect we will be able to minigame our warbarges in a 2D side scrolling shooter
The Jump Stuff - Are we to believe that mercs in the future wouldn't have anti grav? so why give us a terrible jump mechanic? is it perhaps because you cant change the code of the game to fix roof top campers?
The Tank Changes - First the proto tanks were in, they were removed, now back in - its like an armed hokey - cokey - the changes i am seeing reward further extreme and stupid mechanics over having a good solid rounded fight - its tank or gank.
I usually never post on this forum and am not even sure why i am - i guess i am just so frustrated at the endless queue of strange and unlinked changes that seem to be coming thick and fast from CCP now - if this is linked to a grand vision then i cannot see it - all i see is a rather poorly understood game trying to mirror and copy elements of other genres without any understanding of the holistic view of the product.
I am now at the point where i just want CCP to stop working on it, just stop before we get assassins creed eagle vision or a hide mechanic from Alien Isolation and lets not forget - DUST 514 - HEISTS COMING SOON...... jeez |
Cassa-Nova
KILL-EM-QUICK
RISE of LEGION
105
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Posted - 2015.03.12 21:38:00 -
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Mate I love you, I love your vids, ive been subscribed since the start...
But SHUT UP! I have not had this much fun in dust since Codex. You're talking out your ass.
Amarr Faction Suit Colour Schemes
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P14GU3
UNIVERSAL C.A.R.N.A.G.E
1338
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Posted - 2015.03.12 21:39:00 -
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CEOPyrex CloneA wrote:Wow this fix made me even want to log into the forums to rage, that's quite an achievement but i have just concluded 10 or so rounds of play of the new patch and i am almost staggered by what CCP have done.
The TLDR version of this is that their core game was taken seriously by many of the renaming few who play still and this seriously 'gun game' element was competitive and aggressive and therefore good.
This patch has made the game step far too close to comparison with the free to play games of Steam which are all pretty much terrible and really horrid cash grabs with game play not lost on those who remember Quake team arena but lacking the quality.
Dust 514 now feels like an aged and 'corny' ironic shooter that sits in the gutter looking up in awe at huge piles of excrement like Destiny and try to cherry pick the odd feature here and there to glue to its frame so that it also will be considered a cool kid.
The Warbarge - a shocking cash grab based on seeing Clash of Clans create 'bases' that the user upgrades and lusts over, soon i expect we will be able to minigame our warbarges in a 2D side scrolling shooter
The Jump Stuff - Are we to believe that mercs in the future wouldn't have anti grav? so why give us a terrible jump mechanic? is it perhaps because you cant change the code of the game to fix roof top campers?
The Tank Changes - First the proto tanks were in, they were removed, now back in - its like an armed hokey - cokey - the changes i am seeing reward further extreme and stupid mechanics over having a good solid rounded fight - its tank or gank.
I usually never post on this forum and am not even sure why i am - i guess i am just so frustrated at the endless queue of strange and unlinked changes that seem to be coming thick and fast from CCP now - if this is linked to a grand vision then i cannot see it - all i see is a rather poorly understood game trying to mirror and copy elements of other genres without any understanding of the holistic view of the product.
I am now at the point where i just want CCP to stop working on it, just stop before we get assassins creed eagle vision or a hide mechanic from Alien Isolation and lets not forget - DUST 514 - HEISTS COMING SOON...... jeez
I usually laugh off you rants, on the forums or otherwise. But I find myself in complete agreement with everything you said, which means the end must be near..
Edit: Dust used to be unique, CCP used to be progressive and cutting edge. Now they are just copying ****** elements of other games.
'Sault AK.0 - Logi AK.0 - Logi GK.0 - Scout GK.0 - 'Mando MK.0 - Masshole in every sense of the word.
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abdullah muzaffar
G0DS AM0NG MEN
General Tso's Alliance
456
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Posted - 2015.03.12 21:40:00 -
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CEOPyrex CloneA wrote:assassins creed eagle vision
Active scanners, CCP, NAO!!!!! |
tander09
Corrosive Synergy
RISE of LEGION
251
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Posted - 2015.03.12 21:40:00 -
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As expected, Pyrex is acting like a total asshat when a new update is not good for him.
"The feud shall not be forgotten. But those who forget, never witnessed the true horror of it."
-Nexle Skimfuse
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One Eyed King
Nos Nothi
8425
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Posted - 2015.03.12 21:41:00 -
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I thought you quit...
I seem to remember because I saw a video about Dust and Dinosaurs and was completely and utterly disappointed with the lack of Dinosaurs and the false advertising.
Former CEO of the Land of the BIind.
Any double entendre is unintended I assure you.
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Iron Wolf Saber
Den of Swords
18787
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Posted - 2015.03.12 21:42:00 -
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We didn't touch the war barge this hotfix....
Also Sagaris =/= Prototank it was still standard level.
CPM 1
Omni-Soldier, Forum Warrior
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DeadlyAztec11
Defenders of the Helghast Dream
7933
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Posted - 2015.03.12 21:45:00 -
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You don't know what you're talking about. You obviously have not done your research based on your conclusions.
Warbarges are extremely easy to upgrade without Aurum. Keys are gotten daily without Aurum.
Apex suits can be bought with LP or Aurum. Though they aren't competitive and most people could make better militia fits.
Myofibril Stimulants are broken but will probably be nerfed just like rocket jumping tanks.
The developers who took away high tier tanks are not the same ones who brought them back now.
Seriously, you have absolutely no idea what you're talking about.
Put your flags up in the sky.
And wave them side to side.
Show the world where you're from.
Show the world we are one.
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GLOBAL RAGE
Consolidated Dust
124
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Posted - 2015.03.12 21:56:00 -
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Pyrex is correct. |
sabre prime
Crux Special Tasks Group
Gallente Federation
976
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Posted - 2015.03.12 22:08:00 -
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He has a point. I agree that since last fanfest's rouge wedding bollocks, this game has lost vision. The 'hotfix' era of iterative development has had no cohesive strategy. Just random ideas or poorly thought out additions based on a short term monetization strategy or listening to the fukcing forums.
The same effort could have been put into fewer updates that addresses the core mechanics of the game, enhanced performance, or added more genuine content in terms of weapons, vehicles or game modes.
I know that everyone gets excited when a new update is released, but that's CCP's power to seduce you. Afterwards you always realise that the game hasn't actually improved.
The slow blade penetrates the shield.
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Operative 1174 Uuali
Y.A.M.A.H
481
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Posted - 2015.03.12 22:23:00 -
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Cassa-Nova wrote:Mate I love you, I love your vids, ive been subscribed since the start...
But SHUT UP! I have not had this much fun in dust since Codex. You're talking out your ass.
Well, I would have a whole lot more fun if they added grenade di*dos, but that doesn't make much sense and is just as silly.
Death is a serious business. So is running a shoddy, half-baked game company.
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Joseph Ridgeson
WarRavens
3313
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Posted - 2015.03.12 22:25:00 -
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Warbarge is an issue. The very fact that you can so blatantly buy power is sad. It is also psychological money grab, which are always fun. Even worse is that the idea of the Warbarge is to have the "flotilla" for Planetary Conquest meaning the Corporation with the best Warbarges (IE, spent the most money) will have the best results.
A true shame.
"This is B.S! This is B.S! I paid money! Cash money, dollars money, cash money!"
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Greasepalms
Ahrendee Inc.
Negative-Feedback
735
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Posted - 2015.03.12 22:26:00 -
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it's fine |
One Eyed King
Nos Nothi
8426
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Posted - 2015.03.12 22:36:00 -
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sabre prime wrote:He has a point. I agree that since last fanfest's rouge wedding bollocks, this game has lost vision. The 'hotfix' era of iterative development has had no cohesive strategy. Just random ideas or poorly thought out additions based on a short term monetization strategy or listening to the fukcing forums.
The same effort could have been put into fewer updates that addresses the core mechanics of the game, enhanced performance, or added more genuine content in terms of weapons, vehicles or game modes.
I know that everyone gets excited when a new update is released, but that's CCP's power to seduce you. Afterwards you always realise that the game hasn't actually improved.
What crack are you smoking?
Rattati has had way more vision and sense of balance than any of the crap that came before him.
Between the simultaneous tank buff/AV nerf, putting in game pieces that could not be used in lieu of actual game balances, and plain old haphazardness of pre FF development, what we have now is amazing.
He didn't have the resources to add more content, and did amazing things with the limited resources he has.
I have many frustrations about the game, but if you think it was better before FF 14, you are possibly the most clueless person here.
Joseph Ridgeson wrote:Warbarge is an issue. The very fact that you can so blatantly buy power is sad. It is also psychological money grab, which are always fun. Even worse is that the idea of the Warbarge is to have the "flotilla" for Planetary Conquest meaning the Corporation with the best Warbarges (IE, spent the most money) will have the best results.
A true shame.
Its no different than having AUR weapons and suits and boosters. Its not like people are buying things that aren't accessible otherwise.
Former CEO of the Land of the BIind.
Any double entendre is unintended I assure you.
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Juno Tristan
Obscure Reference
426
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Posted - 2015.03.12 22:36:00 -
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You're probably not going to like the portals idea then...
I just want more maps and game modes, add them and I'll be happy
ADS Ramming Revenge!
Plasma Cannon Rampage
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LUGMOS
Corrosive Synergy
RISE of LEGION
2700
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Posted - 2015.03.12 22:37:00 -
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Lol...
DUST has been that way for a while...
At this point, it is just about having the most fun before Legion (or the game's death for you pessimists)
Tryhard scrubs will still prevail, however.
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Anti-FoTM Prof. V
Forum Scavenger Prof. V
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Jebus McKing
Nos Nothi
1733
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Posted - 2015.03.12 22:50:00 -
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DeadlyAztec11 wrote:You don't know what you're talking about. You obviously have not done your research based on your conclusions. As usual. This seems to be his modus operandi.
Jebus hates scans.GÇÇGÇÇGÇÇ | GÇÇGÇÇGÇÇREs are fine.
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Cypher Nil
Fireteam Tempest
53
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Posted - 2015.03.12 22:52:00 -
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DeadlyAztec11 wrote:You don't know what you're talking about. You obviously have not done your research based on your conclusions.
Warbarges are extremely easy to upgrade without Aurum. Keys are gotten daily without Aurum.
Apex suits can be bought with LP or Aurum. Though they aren't competitive and most people could make better militia fits.
Myofibril Stimulants are broken but will probably be nerfed just like rocket jumping tanks.
The developers who took away high tier tanks are not the same ones who brought them back now.
Seriously, you have absolutely no idea what you're talking about.
You just listed all the new features that cost real money. I though OP's point was CCP making a load of cash grabs.
I'm confused here, you sound like your disagreeing with OP but then you list things that reinforce his argument?
Its ok, I'm a ninja
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Ripley Riley
Incorruptibles
8435
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Posted - 2015.03.12 22:52:00 -
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WHY AM I AGREEING WITH CEO PYREX AAAAH!? Are these the end times?!
I need a drink... I just don't know anymore...
4 out of 5 dentists agree that orange is not a sound.
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Sequal's Back
Dead Man's Game
RUST415
379
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Posted - 2015.03.12 22:54:00 -
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I agree with all your statements Pyrex.
Rise? That's what they used to call me. Sequal Rise. That was my name.
Now I come Back to you, at the turn of the tide.
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KEROSIINI-TERO
The Rainbow Effect
1848
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Posted - 2015.03.12 23:29:00 -
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Iron Wolf Saber wrote:We didn't touch the war barge this hotfix....
Also Sagaris =/= Prototank it was still standard level.
They were ADV tanks. Black OPs were supposed to be PRO.
Looking at both sides of the coin.
Even Aurum one.
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DeadlyAztec11
Defenders of the Helghast Dream
7937
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Posted - 2015.03.12 23:32:00 -
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Cypher Nil wrote:DeadlyAztec11 wrote:You don't know what you're talking about. You obviously have not done your research based on your conclusions.
Warbarges are extremely easy to upgrade without Aurum. Keys are gotten daily without Aurum.
Apex suits can be bought with LP or Aurum. Though they aren't competitive and most people could make better militia fits.
Myofibril Stimulants are broken but will probably be nerfed just like rocket jumping tanks.
The developers who took away high tier tanks are not the same ones who brought them back now.
Seriously, you have absolutely no idea what you're talking about. You just listed all the new features that cost real money. I though OP's point was CCP making a load of cash grabs. I'm confused here, you sound like your disagreeing with OP but then you list things that reinforce his argument?
The point is that there are all free ways to achieve everything in this game. You don't need to spend money at all. The only reasons to spend money are to get things faster and to help out CCP.
Nothing in this game actually costs money except for Bpo's, boosters and consumables. All of which you can get through boxes.
So the entire cash grab claim is totally false.
Put your flags up in the sky.
And wave them side to side.
Show the world where you're from.
Show the world we are one.
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Lorhak Gannarsein
Nos Nothi
4446
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Posted - 2015.03.12 23:51:00 -
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wow, lots of angry and wrong people in this thread. Must suck to be you.
I'm enjoying my new viable Madrugar.
Guys, we need to stop calling MU a 'matchmaker' when it's actually a 'teambuilder'.
And I want to play FE:A now. Damn.
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Vapor Forseti
Internal Error.
Negative-Feedback
1838
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Posted - 2015.03.12 23:55:00 -
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Hey Pyreeeeeeeeeeexxxxxxxxx
I'm your biggest faaaaaaaaaannnnnnn
So sexy, she'll pass out.
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Mejt0
Dead Man's Game
RUST415
1011
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Posted - 2015.03.13 00:16:00 -
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Well, this hotfix has brought 3 things :
-halo style jumps
-AScR better than AR
-Very strong tanks [-40% dmg + 300-450 reps, it's sick]
But new is better even if it'll take time to stabilise it.
Caldari Hero
Loyal To The State
Mejt0 Sale List
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Aero Yassavi
Praetoriani Classiarii Templares
Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
9399
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Posted - 2015.03.13 00:18:00 -
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Only thing I agree with is the warbarge but that was done awhile ago. It wouldn't even be that bad if a) there was no damage bonus or b) you couldn't buy warbarge components, only salvage on field, through strong box, and daily production. But the fact that you can literally buy components which directly and immediately turn into damage is absolutely horrible.
Amarr are the good guys
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True Adamance
Praetoriani Classiarii Templares
Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
17618
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Posted - 2015.03.13 00:21:00 -
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Lorhak Gannarsein wrote:wow, lots of angry and wrong people in this thread. Must suck to be you.
I'm enjoying my new viable Madrugar.
You mean.....really? Truly? One Hundred Percent Viable?
We need to squad up and sit in that hangar again.
Raphael: I'm warning you. Do not leave me here. I will find you.
Castiel: Maybe one day. Today you're my little bitch
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VALCORE72
Dead Man's Game
RUST415
237
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Posted - 2015.03.13 00:27:00 -
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DeadlyAztec11 wrote:You don't know what you're talking about. You obviously have not done your research based on your conclusions.
Warbarges are extremely easy to upgrade without Aurum. Keys are gotten daily without Aurum.
Apex suits can be bought with LP or Aurum. Though they aren't competitive and most people could make better militia fits.
Myofibril Stimulants are broken but will probably be nerfed just like rocket jumping tanks.
The developers who took away high tier tanks are not the same ones who brought them back now.
Seriously, you have absolutely no idea what you're talking about.
rat said hes happy with jump mods btw i see why lol haven't had this much fun since my hmg was fixed |
One Eyed King
Nos Nothi
8432
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Posted - 2015.03.13 00:27:00 -
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Aero Yassavi wrote:Only thing I agree with is the warbarge but that was done awhile ago. It wouldn't even be that bad if a) there was no damage bonus or b) you couldn't buy warbarge components, only salvage on field, through strong box, and daily production. But the fact that you can literally buy components which directly and immediately turn into damage is absolutely horrible.
But isn't there some cool down mechanism or something associated with that? I remember hearing people talk about it as if it was done in such a way that wasn't abusive.
Former CEO of the Land of the BIind.
Any double entendre is unintended I assure you.
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Thumb Green
The Valyrian Mercenary Army
2133
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Posted - 2015.03.13 00:36:00 -
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P14GU3 wrote:
Edit: Dust used to be unique, CCP used to be progressive and cutting edge. Now they are just copying ****** elements of other games.
The only thing that ever has made Dust unique is cross platform interaction with a completely different game. Other than the skill system, Dust is just a buggier & reskinned version of the 1st Tribes that came out 17 years ago.
Take your stinking paws off me, you damned dirty hipster!
Rated [TV-MA]
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P14GU3
UNIVERSAL C.A.R.N.A.G.E
1354
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Posted - 2015.03.13 00:40:00 -
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Thumb Green wrote:P14GU3 wrote:
Edit: Dust used to be unique, CCP used to be progressive and cutting edge. Now they are just copying ****** elements of other games.
The only thing that ever has made Dust unique is cross platform interaction with a completely different game. Other than the skill system, Dust is just a buggier & reskinned version of the 1st Tribes that came out 17 years ago.
The skill system, suit "classes," and their overall vision at the time was unique. It was supposed to be a shooter based off of new eden. Now its just another shooter based in new eden.
'Sault AK.0 - Logi AK.0 - Logi GK.0 - Scout GK.0 - 'Mando MK.0 - Masshole in every sense of the word.
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Jadek Menaheim
Xer Cloud Consortium
5581
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Posted - 2015.03.13 00:46:00 -
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Cassa-Nova wrote:Mate I love you, I love your vids, ive been subscribed since the start...
But SHUT UP! I have not had this much fun in dust since Codex. You're talking out your ass.
Same feeling here. I'd say this change was good Pyrex. Dust was getting stale.
Neckbeard for Good charity shave
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FLAYLOCK Steve
Kinsho Swords
Caldari State
477
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Posted - 2015.03.13 01:11:00 -
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CEOPyrex CloneA wrote:Wow this fix made me even want to log into the forums to rage, that's quite an achievement but i have just concluded 10 or so rounds of play of the new patch and i am almost staggered by what CCP have done.
The TLDR version of this is that their core game was taken seriously by many of the renaming few who play still and this seriously 'gun game' element was competitive and aggressive and therefore good.
This patch has made the game step far too close to comparison with the free to play games of Steam which are all pretty much terrible and really horrid cash grabs with game play not lost on those who remember Quake team arena but lacking the quality.
Dust 514 now feels like an aged and 'corny' ironic shooter that sits in the gutter looking up in awe at huge piles of excrement like Destiny and try to cherry pick the odd feature here and there to glue to its frame so that it also will be considered a cool kid.
The Warbarge - a shocking cash grab based on seeing Clash of Clans create 'bases' that the user upgrades and lusts over, soon i expect we will be able to minigame our warbarges in a 2D side scrolling shooter
The Jump Stuff - Are we to believe that mercs in the future wouldn't have anti grav? so why give us a terrible jump mechanic? is it perhaps because you cant change the code of the game to fix roof top campers?
The Tank Changes - First the proto tanks were in, they were removed, now back in - its like an armed hokey - cokey - the changes i am seeing reward further extreme and stupid mechanics over having a good solid rounded fight - its tank or gank.
I usually never post on this forum and am not even sure why i am - i guess i am just so frustrated at the endless queue of strange and unlinked changes that seem to be coming thick and fast from CCP now - if this is linked to a grand vision then i cannot see it - all i see is a rather poorly understood game trying to mirror and copy elements of other genres without any understanding of the holistic view of the product.
I am now at the point where i just want CCP to stop working on it, just stop before we get assassins creed eagle vision or a hide mechanic from Alien Isolation and lets not forget - DUST 514 - HEISTS COMING SOON...... jeez
I honestly have the most respect for you. But I don't agree on everything you said. The jumping thing is pretty fun. I'm seeing a lot more tanks than I used to. |
Kalante Schiffer
Ancient Exiles.
999
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Posted - 2015.03.13 01:52:00 -
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Aero Yassavi wrote:Only thing I agree with is the warbarge but that was done awhile ago. It wouldn't even be that bad if a) there was no damage bonus or b) you couldn't buy warbarge components, only salvage on field, through strong box, and daily production. But the fact that you can literally buy components which directly and immediately turn into damage is absolutely horrible. i agree with that 100%.
framerate>everything else
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Kalante Schiffer
Ancient Exiles.
999
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Posted - 2015.03.13 01:54:00 -
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The jumping has added a whole new level of dynamic game play in dust. You no longer have to move all the way around to get to certain areas.
framerate>everything else
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Iron Wolf Saber
Den of Swords
18791
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Posted - 2015.03.13 05:18:00 -
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KEROSIINI-TERO wrote:Iron Wolf Saber wrote:We didn't touch the war barge this hotfix....
Also Sagaris =/= Prototank it was still standard level. They were ADV tanks. Black OPs were supposed to be PRO.
Black Ops where also standard.
CPM 1
Omni-Soldier, Forum Warrior
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Adipem Nothi
Nos Nothi
7558
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Posted - 2015.03.13 05:20:00 -
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Cassa-Nova wrote:You're talking out your ass.
Shoot scout with yes.
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Fizzer XCIV
Tal-Romon Legion
Amarr Empire
2660
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Posted - 2015.03.13 05:21:00 -
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Iron Wolf Saber wrote:KEROSIINI-TERO wrote:Iron Wolf Saber wrote:We didn't touch the war barge this hotfix....
Also Sagaris =/= Prototank it was still standard level. They were ADV tanks. Black OPs were supposed to be PRO. Black Ops where also standard.
Stop.
Sagarises and the other one(can't remember its name) were only Standard in classification.
They were for all intents and purposes, Advanced HAVs.
What you are trying to say is silly.
If a suit has prototype stats, but is called standard, it it still prototype.
They were ADV HAVs.
Home at Last <3
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hails8n
DEATH BY DESTRUCTION
52
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Posted - 2015.03.13 06:47:00 -
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I dont see the point of high slot mods when the super jump mods covers it all. Shield extenders/regs, who needs those when you can jump out of danger anytime. Precision mods, who needs those when you can surveil an entire area with a jump. Damage mods, what for when you can completely while out anyone by staying out of their field of vision. The tactical gameplays gone, ill just be spamming officer gear, jump mods,melee, anything op til I'm broke. This game is giving me a headache.
Snipe Yo Ass.
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Aoena Rays
Bragian Order
Amarr Empire
603
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Posted - 2015.03.13 06:51:00 -
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DeadlyAztec11 wrote:You don't know what you're talking about. You obviously have not done your research based on your conclusions.
Warbarges are extremely easy to upgrade without Aurum. Keys are gotten daily without Aurum.
Apex suits can be bought with LP or Aurum. Though they aren't competitive and most people could make better militia fits.
Myofibril Stimulants are broken but will probably be nerfed just like rocket jumping tanks.
The developers who took away high tier tanks are not the same ones who brought them back now.
Seriously, you have absolutely no idea what you're talking about.
This.
Story of your life
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Propaganda X
Ostrakon Agency
Gallente Federation
24
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Posted - 2015.03.13 06:52:00 -
[41] - Quote
Idk if you guys saw the part where Pyrex said he was having a lot of fun with it but,.....I'm pretty sure he said he was having fun with it. |
Heracles Porsche
Capital Acquisitions LLC
Bad Intention
237
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Posted - 2015.03.13 11:40:00 -
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What happened to the happy Pyrex who had so much optimism for this game? Hugsies Pyrex, I hope you feel better soon.
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Mejt0
Dead Man's Game
RUST415
1014
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Posted - 2015.03.13 12:21:00 -
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hails8n wrote:I dont see the point of high slot mods when the super jump mods covers it all. Shield extenders/regs, who needs those when you can jump out of danger anytime. Precision mods, who needs those when you can surveil an entire area with a jump. Damage mods, what for when you can completely while out anyone by staying out of their field of vision. The tactical gameplays gone, ill just be spamming officer gear, jump mods,melee, anything op til I'm broke. This game is giving me a headache.
Who said that jumping helps in evading bullets?
Jumping frogs are dead in midair most of the time.
Caldari Hero
Loyal To The State
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Wilhelm Klingspor
DUST University
Ivy League
786
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Posted - 2015.03.13 12:25:00 -
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Pyrex taking to the forums... They've done it now.
They will change it back again, and fine tune it, then increase stuff again, then tone it down, achieve a sort of balance, then change something new, break it, fix it. This is terribly important to some people because of 1% of 340 damage against MehMehMeh. And Rattati is very good at handeling this and these people, i think. I don't know if i care enough though. Jumping like fleas or not, this game needs new substantial content for me to keep engaged. But I'm an entitled special little flower and in this case a happy one because my PLC got a buff.
If they are taking stuff from other games they may also take the war barge from star bound, i can walk around in that and see the upgrades.
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Takahiro Kashuken
Red Star.
4141
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Posted - 2015.03.13 12:35:00 -
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Iron Wolf Saber wrote:We didn't touch the war barge this hotfix....
Also Sagaris =/= Prototank it was still standard level.
Sagaris was advanced, it was never prototype.
But the Sagaris/Surya are still better than what we have now which is basic/basic and basic.
Disclaimer:
The above post is respectful, contains no ranting, contains no personal attacks, contains no trolling, contains no racism, contains no discrimination, contains no profanity, contains no spamming. This post is an opinion and is related to DUST514
CCP Rattati - "One giant vehicle nerf with more power to AV", you have got to be kidding...''
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Hansei Kaizen
The Jackson Five
352
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Posted - 2015.03.13 12:58:00 -
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The feeling lingers that Dust is sustained as an experimental plattform for Legion development.
Let them try out things, let them experiment and tune the numbers and maybe ... just maybe ... Legion might become a real success.
I am happy to provide help to that goal. And sometimes really funny stuff happens, too 
Just enjoy the ride.
The answer to your complaint is PvE. Always.
NPE status: (Gò»°Gûí°n+ëGò»n+¦ Gö+GöüGö+
Casual solo
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John Psi
Vacuum Cleaner. LLC
Steel Balls Alliance
1406
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Posted - 2015.03.13 13:03:00 -
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CEOPyrex CloneA wrote:
The Jump Stuff - Are we to believe that mercs in the future wouldn't have anti grav? so why give us a terrible jump mechanic? is it perhaps because you cant change the code of the game to fix roof top campers?
10/10
Please support fair play!
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LudiKure ninda
Dead Man's Game
RUST415
238
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Posted - 2015.03.13 13:55:00 -
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Iron Wolf Saber wrote:KEROSIINI-TERO wrote:Iron Wolf Saber wrote:We didn't touch the war barge this hotfix....
Also Sagaris =/= Prototank it was still standard level. They were ADV tanks. Black OPs were supposed to be PRO. Black Ops where also standard.
So what about pro tanks ?
Was there any plans on the hull slot layout?? stats or something??? 
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Send your isk here!
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Soldner VonKuechle
SAM-MIK
General Tso's Alliance
1739
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Posted - 2015.03.13 14:19:00 -
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Hey pyrex good to see you can still sperg about into a mic piecing together half brained ideas with little foresight or reasoning other than OMG IT KILLED ME or I CANT SHOOT SOMETHING THATS FALLING.
Great video if i had brain damage.
Cant wait for BAMM HAVOC to get his super tinfoil version out.
Excuse me, i have low blood sugar.
Best Bombing platform:Cal-logi. 5x myos, red/green, fero, cpu-up, ishhives, REs REs, Freedom MD, AUR Thukkers from 1.2
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KingA2thur
61
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Posted - 2015.03.13 14:31:00 -
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You are right in every point Pyrex. The 'moonjump hotfix' is the worst ever.
I returned because I read that the next million clone challenge started. After finishing that 'event' I am going to take a break AGAIN.
Maybe for more than a week this time. 
To get trolled press any key.
"I do not see 'any key'. I can only see a square, triangle, circle and cross."
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Logi Bro
Brutor Vanguard
Minmatar Republic
3487
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Posted - 2015.03.13 15:33:00 -
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DeadlyAztec11 wrote:You don't know what you're talking about. You obviously have not done your research based on your conclusions.
Warbarges are extremely easy to upgrade without Aurum. Keys are gotten daily without Aurum.
Apex suits can be bought with LP or Aurum. Though they aren't competitive and most people could make better militia fits.
Myofibril Stimulants are broken but will probably be nerfed just like rocket jumping tanks.
The developers who took away high tier tanks are not the same ones who brought them back now.
Seriously, you have absolutely no idea what you're talking about.
Wait, what??
"Warbarges are extremely easy to upgrade without Aurum."
My 300 per day components in order to get 10,000 components, which will only give me 100 more components per day beg to differ. You have to wait 100 days in order for that investment to even pay itself off. It's one thing to defend this game, and another to blindly say something that is stupid broken is OK.
Also, the OP never even mentioned anything about the Apex suits, so maybe you're the one who doesn't know what he's talking about? ("most people could make better militia fits," that gave me something to laugh at)
SP Sinks? Fixed.
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Vesta Opalus
T.H.I.R.D R.O.C.K
RISE of LEGION
511
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Posted - 2015.03.13 15:37:00 -
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CEOPyrex CloneA wrote:Dust 514 now feels like an aged and 'corny' ironic shooter that sits in the gutter looking up in awe at huge piles of excrement like Destiny and try to cherry pick the odd feature here and there to glue to its frame so that it also will be considered a cool kid.
Not sure why you are surprised, I've been saying this forever now: this game is a watered down copy of Battlefield 2142. Right down to the titans/warbages and future warfare, spawn uplinks, etc.
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Logi Bro
Brutor Vanguard
Minmatar Republic
3487
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Posted - 2015.03.13 15:44:00 -
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One Eyed King wrote:Aero Yassavi wrote:Only thing I agree with is the warbarge but that was done awhile ago. It wouldn't even be that bad if a) there was no damage bonus or b) you couldn't buy warbarge components, only salvage on field, through strong box, and daily production. But the fact that you can literally buy components which directly and immediately turn into damage is absolutely horrible. But isn't there some cool down mechanism or something associated with that? I remember hearing people talk about it as if it was done in such a way that wasn't abusive.
You can throw components at the cooldown to make it go away. So basically, an Aurum user could just buy a gross amount of components, buy an upgrade, buy off the cooldown, buy the next upgrade, buy off the cooldown, buy the next upgrade, so on and so on. Meaning that Aurum users can max the entire Warbarge instantly, along with the damage bonus.
Which is why it is stupid.
SP Sinks? Fixed.
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Justicar Karnellia
Ikomari-Onu Enforcement
Caldari State
997
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Posted - 2015.03.13 15:58:00 -
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Hansei Kaizen wrote:The feeling lingers that Dust is sustained as an experimental plattform for Legion development. Let them try out things, let them experiment and tune the numbers and maybe ... just maybe ... Legion might become a real success. I am happy to provide help to that goal. And sometimes really funny stuff happens, too Just enjoy the ride.
Exactly... Did people forget that most of their development resources are actually working on another game... be it Legion, Valkyrie or whatever... He probably has 2 programmers and two artists plus a QA guy... for chrissakes the guy was a financial analyst before CCP Rouge just went "Hey come into my office, we've got this giant failure called Dust 514. Go and do something with it while we make something more long term. Enjoy. Hey are you still in my office?" |
GLOBAL RAGE
Consolidated Dust
128
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Posted - 2015.03.13 16:38:00 -
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John Psi wrote:CEOPyrex CloneA wrote:
The Jump Stuff - Are we to believe that mercs in the future wouldn't have anti grav? so why give us a terrible jump mechanic? is it perhaps because you cant change the code of the game to fix roof top campers?
10/10
Higgs bosson could cause the universe to collapse-so says "big bang" timmy.
I think inspector gadgets hat copter is more inline with CCP's vision of a gritty science fantasy shooter.
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Green Means Go
Kameira Lodge
Amarr Empire
34
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Posted - 2015.03.13 16:41:00 -
[56] - Quote
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I personally HATE the jump add-on. First, it is just a cheap immitation of the bunny hop. After three jumps, i die. Snipers can kill me while Im airborne (jumps take to long). If my fatty cant jump over a skyscrapper, im not interested.......
Give me a jetpack or give me death! =ƒÆÇ=ƒÆÇ=ƒÆÇ=ƒÆÇ=ƒÆÇ=ƒÆÇ=ƒÆÇ=ƒÆÇ=ƒÆÇ=ƒÆÇ=ƒÆÇ=ƒÆÇ
Things that could have saved dust long ago....(player count)
Trading (day 1)
More vehicles land/sea/air (jets)
water map/more map variants
jetpacks......or an anti-gravity map
PVE- even if its only 1 octo-bot that comes through pumping plasma into both teams. People would have to work together to take it out.
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Topher Mellen
Scott-Mellen Corporation
144
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Posted - 2015.03.13 16:44:00 -
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CEOPyrex CloneA wrote:Wow this fix made me even want to log into the forums to rage, that's quite an achievement but i have just concluded 10 or so rounds of play of the new patch and i am almost staggered by what CCP have done.
The TLDR version of this is that their core game was taken seriously by many of the renaming few who play still and this seriously 'gun game' element was competitive and aggressive and therefore good.
This patch has made the game step far too close to comparison with the free to play games of Steam which are all pretty much terrible and really horrid cash grabs with game play not lost on those who remember Quake team arena but lacking the quality.
Dust 514 now feels like an aged and 'corny' ironic shooter that sits in the gutter looking up in awe at huge piles of excrement like Destiny and try to cherry pick the odd feature here and there to glue to its frame so that it also will be considered a cool kid.
The Warbarge - a shocking cash grab based on seeing Clash of Clans create 'bases' that the user upgrades and lusts over, soon i expect we will be able to minigame our warbarges in a 2D side scrolling shooter
The Jump Stuff - Are we to believe that mercs in the future wouldn't have anti grav? so why give us a terrible jump mechanic? is it perhaps because you cant change the code of the game to fix roof top campers?
The Tank Changes - First the proto tanks were in, they were removed, now back in - its like an armed hokey - cokey - the changes i am seeing reward further extreme and stupid mechanics over having a good solid rounded fight - its tank or gank.
I usually never post on this forum and am not even sure why i am - i guess i am just so frustrated at the endless queue of strange and unlinked changes that seem to be coming thick and fast from CCP now - if this is linked to a grand vision then i cannot see it - all i see is a rather poorly understood game trying to mirror and copy elements of other genres without any understanding of the holistic view of the product.
I am now at the point where i just want CCP to stop working on it, just stop before we get assassins creed eagle vision or a hide mechanic from Alien Isolation and lets not forget - DUST 514 - HEISTS COMING SOON...... jeez
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BAMM HAVOC
Carbon 7
Iron Oxide.
754
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Posted - 2015.03.15 06:05:00 -
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Soldner VonKuechle wrote:
Cant wait for BAMM HAVOC to get his super tinfoil version out.
Super tinfoil ? Just Super ? No.... Get it right my special snowflake.
Heavy Duty Super Capital Tinfoil. Any super cap will do, but for the best results take the Amarain Titan, it is the shiniest with the most bling and it even has spinning rims. Plus it has excellent overhead storage for bacon sandwiches and even a cooler in the front for at least 6 beers.
Now that we cleared that up... We can get back to the topic at hand.
What was the question again ?
Did someone say bacon ...?
Beer?
YOU TUBEZ
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Xocoyol Zaraoul
Superior Genetics
3608
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Posted - 2015.03.15 06:17:00 -
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CEOPyrex CloneA wrote:The Tank Changes - First the proto tanks were in, they were removed, now back in
As someone whose been here literally since the start, I don't ever recall proto tanks. As for the tanking mechanics change, this is reverting back to active module usage, before wolfman messed everything up.
Lastly, the jump mechanics have been shown to be buggy, the x4 and x5 blue bottles are broken, flat out, from the normal curve of 1,2, or even 3 blue bottles, if you check the spreadsheet thread.
"You see those red dots over there?
Go and shoot them until you see a +50 on the screen" - Arkena Wyrnspire
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