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CEOPyrex CloneA
The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY
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Posted - 2015.03.12 21:36:00 -
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Wow this fix made me even want to log into the forums to rage, that's quite an achievement but i have just concluded 10 or so rounds of play of the new patch and i am almost staggered by what CCP have done.
The TLDR version of this is that their core game was taken seriously by many of the renaming few who play still and this seriously 'gun game' element was competitive and aggressive and therefore good.
This patch has made the game step far too close to comparison with the free to play games of Steam which are all pretty much terrible and really horrid cash grabs with game play not lost on those who remember Quake team arena but lacking the quality.
Dust 514 now feels like an aged and 'corny' ironic shooter that sits in the gutter looking up in awe at huge piles of excrement like Destiny and try to cherry pick the odd feature here and there to glue to its frame so that it also will be considered a cool kid.
The Warbarge - a shocking cash grab based on seeing Clash of Clans create 'bases' that the user upgrades and lusts over, soon i expect we will be able to minigame our warbarges in a 2D side scrolling shooter
The Jump Stuff - Are we to believe that mercs in the future wouldn't have anti grav? so why give us a terrible jump mechanic? is it perhaps because you cant change the code of the game to fix roof top campers?
The Tank Changes - First the proto tanks were in, they were removed, now back in - its like an armed hokey - cokey - the changes i am seeing reward further extreme and stupid mechanics over having a good solid rounded fight - its tank or gank.
I usually never post on this forum and am not even sure why i am - i guess i am just so frustrated at the endless queue of strange and unlinked changes that seem to be coming thick and fast from CCP now - if this is linked to a grand vision then i cannot see it - all i see is a rather poorly understood game trying to mirror and copy elements of other genres without any understanding of the holistic view of the product.
I am now at the point where i just want CCP to stop working on it, just stop before we get assassins creed eagle vision or a hide mechanic from Alien Isolation and lets not forget - DUST 514 - HEISTS COMING SOON...... jeez |
Cassa-Nova
KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION
105
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Posted - 2015.03.12 21:38:00 -
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Mate I love you, I love your vids, ive been subscribed since the start...
But SHUT UP! I have not had this much fun in dust since Codex. You're talking out your ass.
Amarr Faction Suit Colour Schemes
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P14GU3
UNIVERSAL C.A.R.N.A.G.E
1338
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Posted - 2015.03.12 21:39:00 -
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CEOPyrex CloneA wrote:Wow this fix made me even want to log into the forums to rage, that's quite an achievement but i have just concluded 10 or so rounds of play of the new patch and i am almost staggered by what CCP have done.
The TLDR version of this is that their core game was taken seriously by many of the renaming few who play still and this seriously 'gun game' element was competitive and aggressive and therefore good.
This patch has made the game step far too close to comparison with the free to play games of Steam which are all pretty much terrible and really horrid cash grabs with game play not lost on those who remember Quake team arena but lacking the quality.
Dust 514 now feels like an aged and 'corny' ironic shooter that sits in the gutter looking up in awe at huge piles of excrement like Destiny and try to cherry pick the odd feature here and there to glue to its frame so that it also will be considered a cool kid.
The Warbarge - a shocking cash grab based on seeing Clash of Clans create 'bases' that the user upgrades and lusts over, soon i expect we will be able to minigame our warbarges in a 2D side scrolling shooter
The Jump Stuff - Are we to believe that mercs in the future wouldn't have anti grav? so why give us a terrible jump mechanic? is it perhaps because you cant change the code of the game to fix roof top campers?
The Tank Changes - First the proto tanks were in, they were removed, now back in - its like an armed hokey - cokey - the changes i am seeing reward further extreme and stupid mechanics over having a good solid rounded fight - its tank or gank.
I usually never post on this forum and am not even sure why i am - i guess i am just so frustrated at the endless queue of strange and unlinked changes that seem to be coming thick and fast from CCP now - if this is linked to a grand vision then i cannot see it - all i see is a rather poorly understood game trying to mirror and copy elements of other genres without any understanding of the holistic view of the product.
I am now at the point where i just want CCP to stop working on it, just stop before we get assassins creed eagle vision or a hide mechanic from Alien Isolation and lets not forget - DUST 514 - HEISTS COMING SOON...... jeez I usually laugh off you rants, on the forums or otherwise. But I find myself in complete agreement with everything you said, which means the end must be near..
Edit: Dust used to be unique, CCP used to be progressive and cutting edge. Now they are just copying ****** elements of other games.
'Sault AK.0 - Logi AK.0 - Logi GK.0 - Scout GK.0 - 'Mando MK.0 - Masshole in every sense of the word.
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abdullah muzaffar
G0DS AM0NG MEN General Tso's Alliance
456
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Posted - 2015.03.12 21:40:00 -
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CEOPyrex CloneA wrote:assassins creed eagle vision Active scanners, CCP, NAO!!!!! |
tander09
Corrosive Synergy RISE of LEGION
251
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Posted - 2015.03.12 21:40:00 -
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As expected, Pyrex is acting like a total asshat when a new update is not good for him.
"The feud shall not be forgotten. But those who forget, never witnessed the true horror of it."
-Nexle Skimfuse
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One Eyed King
Nos Nothi
8425
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Posted - 2015.03.12 21:41:00 -
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I thought you quit...
I seem to remember because I saw a video about Dust and Dinosaurs and was completely and utterly disappointed with the lack of Dinosaurs and the false advertising.
Former CEO of the Land of the BIind.
Any double entendre is unintended I assure you.
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Iron Wolf Saber
Den of Swords
18787
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Posted - 2015.03.12 21:42:00 -
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We didn't touch the war barge this hotfix....
Also Sagaris =/= Prototank it was still standard level.
CPM 1
Omni-Soldier, Forum Warrior
\\= Prototype Forge Gun=// Unlocked
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DeadlyAztec11
Defenders of the Helghast Dream
7933
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Posted - 2015.03.12 21:45:00 -
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You don't know what you're talking about. You obviously have not done your research based on your conclusions.
Warbarges are extremely easy to upgrade without Aurum. Keys are gotten daily without Aurum.
Apex suits can be bought with LP or Aurum. Though they aren't competitive and most people could make better militia fits.
Myofibril Stimulants are broken but will probably be nerfed just like rocket jumping tanks.
The developers who took away high tier tanks are not the same ones who brought them back now.
Seriously, you have absolutely no idea what you're talking about.
Put your flags up in the sky.
And wave them side to side.
Show the world where you're from.
Show the world we are one.
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GLOBAL RAGE
Consolidated Dust
124
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Posted - 2015.03.12 21:56:00 -
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Pyrex is correct. |
sabre prime
Crux Special Tasks Group Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2015.03.12 22:08:00 -
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He has a point. I agree that since last fanfest's rouge wedding bollocks, this game has lost vision. The 'hotfix' era of iterative development has had no cohesive strategy. Just random ideas or poorly thought out additions based on a short term monetization strategy or listening to the fukcing forums.
The same effort could have been put into fewer updates that addresses the core mechanics of the game, enhanced performance, or added more genuine content in terms of weapons, vehicles or game modes.
I know that everyone gets excited when a new update is released, but that's CCP's power to seduce you. Afterwards you always realise that the game hasn't actually improved.
The slow blade penetrates the shield.
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Operative 1174 Uuali
Y.A.M.A.H
481
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Posted - 2015.03.12 22:23:00 -
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Cassa-Nova wrote:Mate I love you, I love your vids, ive been subscribed since the start...
But SHUT UP! I have not had this much fun in dust since Codex. You're talking out your ass.
Well, I would have a whole lot more fun if they added grenade di*dos, but that doesn't make much sense and is just as silly.
Death is a serious business. So is running a shoddy, half-baked game company.
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Joseph Ridgeson
WarRavens
3313
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Posted - 2015.03.12 22:25:00 -
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Warbarge is an issue. The very fact that you can so blatantly buy power is sad. It is also psychological money grab, which are always fun. Even worse is that the idea of the Warbarge is to have the "flotilla" for Planetary Conquest meaning the Corporation with the best Warbarges (IE, spent the most money) will have the best results.
A true shame.
"This is B.S! This is B.S! I paid money! Cash money, dollars money, cash money!"
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Greasepalms
Ahrendee Inc. Negative-Feedback
735
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Posted - 2015.03.12 22:26:00 -
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it's fine |
One Eyed King
Nos Nothi
8426
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Posted - 2015.03.12 22:36:00 -
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sabre prime wrote:He has a point. I agree that since last fanfest's rouge wedding bollocks, this game has lost vision. The 'hotfix' era of iterative development has had no cohesive strategy. Just random ideas or poorly thought out additions based on a short term monetization strategy or listening to the fukcing forums.
The same effort could have been put into fewer updates that addresses the core mechanics of the game, enhanced performance, or added more genuine content in terms of weapons, vehicles or game modes.
I know that everyone gets excited when a new update is released, but that's CCP's power to seduce you. Afterwards you always realise that the game hasn't actually improved. What crack are you smoking?
Rattati has had way more vision and sense of balance than any of the crap that came before him.
Between the simultaneous tank buff/AV nerf, putting in game pieces that could not be used in lieu of actual game balances, and plain old haphazardness of pre FF development, what we have now is amazing.
He didn't have the resources to add more content, and did amazing things with the limited resources he has.
I have many frustrations about the game, but if you think it was better before FF 14, you are possibly the most clueless person here.
Joseph Ridgeson wrote:Warbarge is an issue. The very fact that you can so blatantly buy power is sad. It is also psychological money grab, which are always fun. Even worse is that the idea of the Warbarge is to have the "flotilla" for Planetary Conquest meaning the Corporation with the best Warbarges (IE, spent the most money) will have the best results.
A true shame. Its no different than having AUR weapons and suits and boosters. Its not like people are buying things that aren't accessible otherwise.
Former CEO of the Land of the BIind.
Any double entendre is unintended I assure you.
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Juno Tristan
Obscure Reference
426
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Posted - 2015.03.12 22:36:00 -
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You're probably not going to like the portals idea then...
I just want more maps and game modes, add them and I'll be happy
ADS Ramming Revenge!
Plasma Cannon Rampage
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LUGMOS
Corrosive Synergy RISE of LEGION
2700
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Posted - 2015.03.12 22:37:00 -
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Lol...
DUST has been that way for a while...
At this point, it is just about having the most fun before Legion (or the game's death for you pessimists)
Tryhard scrubs will still prevail, however.
Official QuafeGäó Advocate
Anti-FoTM Prof. V
Forum Scavenger Prof. V
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Jebus McKing
Nos Nothi
1733
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Posted - 2015.03.12 22:50:00 -
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DeadlyAztec11 wrote:You don't know what you're talking about. You obviously have not done your research based on your conclusions. As usual. This seems to be his modus operandi.
Jebus hates scans.GÇÇGÇÇGÇÇ | GÇÇGÇÇGÇÇREs are fine.
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Cypher Nil
Fireteam Tempest
53
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Posted - 2015.03.12 22:52:00 -
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DeadlyAztec11 wrote:You don't know what you're talking about. You obviously have not done your research based on your conclusions.
Warbarges are extremely easy to upgrade without Aurum. Keys are gotten daily without Aurum.
Apex suits can be bought with LP or Aurum. Though they aren't competitive and most people could make better militia fits.
Myofibril Stimulants are broken but will probably be nerfed just like rocket jumping tanks.
The developers who took away high tier tanks are not the same ones who brought them back now.
Seriously, you have absolutely no idea what you're talking about.
You just listed all the new features that cost real money. I though OP's point was CCP making a load of cash grabs.
I'm confused here, you sound like your disagreeing with OP but then you list things that reinforce his argument?
Its ok, I'm a ninja
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Ripley Riley
Incorruptibles
8435
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Posted - 2015.03.12 22:52:00 -
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WHY AM I AGREEING WITH CEO PYREX AAAAH!? Are these the end times?!
I need a drink... I just don't know anymore...
4 out of 5 dentists agree that orange is not a sound.
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Sequal's Back
Dead Man's Game RUST415
379
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Posted - 2015.03.12 22:54:00 -
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I agree with all your statements Pyrex.
Rise? That's what they used to call me. Sequal Rise. That was my name.
Now I come Back to you, at the turn of the tide.
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KEROSIINI-TERO
The Rainbow Effect
1848
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Posted - 2015.03.12 23:29:00 -
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Iron Wolf Saber wrote:We didn't touch the war barge this hotfix....
Also Sagaris =/= Prototank it was still standard level.
They were ADV tanks. Black OPs were supposed to be PRO.
Looking at both sides of the coin.
Even Aurum one.
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DeadlyAztec11
Defenders of the Helghast Dream
7937
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Posted - 2015.03.12 23:32:00 -
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Cypher Nil wrote:DeadlyAztec11 wrote:You don't know what you're talking about. You obviously have not done your research based on your conclusions.
Warbarges are extremely easy to upgrade without Aurum. Keys are gotten daily without Aurum.
Apex suits can be bought with LP or Aurum. Though they aren't competitive and most people could make better militia fits.
Myofibril Stimulants are broken but will probably be nerfed just like rocket jumping tanks.
The developers who took away high tier tanks are not the same ones who brought them back now.
Seriously, you have absolutely no idea what you're talking about. You just listed all the new features that cost real money. I though OP's point was CCP making a load of cash grabs. I'm confused here, you sound like your disagreeing with OP but then you list things that reinforce his argument? The point is that there are all free ways to achieve everything in this game. You don't need to spend money at all. The only reasons to spend money are to get things faster and to help out CCP.
Nothing in this game actually costs money except for Bpo's, boosters and consumables. All of which you can get through boxes.
So the entire cash grab claim is totally false.
Put your flags up in the sky.
And wave them side to side.
Show the world where you're from.
Show the world we are one.
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Lorhak Gannarsein
Nos Nothi
4446
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Posted - 2015.03.12 23:51:00 -
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wow, lots of angry and wrong people in this thread. Must suck to be you.
I'm enjoying my new viable Madrugar.
Guys, we need to stop calling MU a 'matchmaker' when it's actually a 'teambuilder'.
And I want to play FE:A now. Damn.
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Vapor Forseti
Internal Error. Negative-Feedback
1838
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Posted - 2015.03.12 23:55:00 -
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Hey Pyreeeeeeeeeeexxxxxxxxx
I'm your biggest faaaaaaaaaannnnnnn
So sexy, she'll pass out.
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Mejt0
Dead Man's Game RUST415
1011
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Posted - 2015.03.13 00:16:00 -
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Well, this hotfix has brought 3 things : -halo style jumps -AScR better than AR -Very strong tanks [-40% dmg + 300-450 reps, it's sick]
But new is better even if it'll take time to stabilise it.
Caldari Hero
Loyal To The State
Mejt0 Sale List
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Aero Yassavi
Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
9399
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Posted - 2015.03.13 00:18:00 -
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Only thing I agree with is the warbarge but that was done awhile ago. It wouldn't even be that bad if a) there was no damage bonus or b) you couldn't buy warbarge components, only salvage on field, through strong box, and daily production. But the fact that you can literally buy components which directly and immediately turn into damage is absolutely horrible.
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True Adamance
Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
17618
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Posted - 2015.03.13 00:21:00 -
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Lorhak Gannarsein wrote:wow, lots of angry and wrong people in this thread. Must suck to be you.
I'm enjoying my new viable Madrugar.
You mean.....really? Truly? One Hundred Percent Viable?
We need to squad up and sit in that hangar again.
Raphael: I'm warning you. Do not leave me here. I will find you.
Castiel: Maybe one day. Today you're my little bitch
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VALCORE72
Dead Man's Game RUST415
237
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Posted - 2015.03.13 00:27:00 -
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DeadlyAztec11 wrote:You don't know what you're talking about. You obviously have not done your research based on your conclusions.
Warbarges are extremely easy to upgrade without Aurum. Keys are gotten daily without Aurum.
Apex suits can be bought with LP or Aurum. Though they aren't competitive and most people could make better militia fits.
Myofibril Stimulants are broken but will probably be nerfed just like rocket jumping tanks.
The developers who took away high tier tanks are not the same ones who brought them back now.
Seriously, you have absolutely no idea what you're talking about. rat said hes happy with jump mods btw i see why lol haven't had this much fun since my hmg was fixed |
One Eyed King
Nos Nothi
8432
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Posted - 2015.03.13 00:27:00 -
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Aero Yassavi wrote:Only thing I agree with is the warbarge but that was done awhile ago. It wouldn't even be that bad if a) there was no damage bonus or b) you couldn't buy warbarge components, only salvage on field, through strong box, and daily production. But the fact that you can literally buy components which directly and immediately turn into damage is absolutely horrible. But isn't there some cool down mechanism or something associated with that? I remember hearing people talk about it as if it was done in such a way that wasn't abusive.
Former CEO of the Land of the BIind.
Any double entendre is unintended I assure you.
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Thumb Green
The Valyrian Mercenary Army
2133
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Posted - 2015.03.13 00:36:00 -
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P14GU3 wrote:
Edit: Dust used to be unique, CCP used to be progressive and cutting edge. Now they are just copying ****** elements of other games.
The only thing that ever has made Dust unique is cross platform interaction with a completely different game. Other than the skill system, Dust is just a buggier & reskinned version of the 1st Tribes that came out 17 years ago.
Take your stinking paws off me, you damned dirty hipster!
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