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Sir Dukey
G0DS AM0NG MEN
General Tso's Alliance
1913
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Posted - 2015.03.12 21:03:00 -
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Two 500k isk ADV Missile Tank Gunnlogis cannot take down one flipping Madrugar.
Tried the AHMG- Couldn't even get him to lose over 1000 Armor.
Their 40% hardener makes them rep right through my Proto Swarms.
Jilhad LAV's Don't work.
Proto Forges- they just turn their hardener on and just rep through it.
Tried Blaster with dmg mod- nothing.
Tried everything- They don't budge.
Feels like 1.7 for Armor tanks rt now all thanks to that 40% hardener buff.
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Forced Death
Corrosive Synergy
RISE of LEGION
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Posted - 2015.03.12 21:05:00 -
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Sir Dukey wrote:Two 500k isk ADV Missile Tank Gunnlogis cannot take down one flipping Madrugar.
Tried the AHMG- Couldn't even get him to lose over 1000 Armor.
Their 40% hardener makes them rep right through my Proto Swarms.
Jilhad LAV's Don't work.
Proto Forges- they just turn their hardener on and just rep through it.
Tried Blaster with dmg mod- nothing.
Tried everything- They don't budge.
Feels like 1.7 for Armor tanks rt now all thanks to that 40% hardener buff.
Haven't had a chance to logon yet, but good to see that people have moved on from complaining about Missle Tank Gunnlogis being indestructible, to Madrugars being indestructible
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Pokey Dravon
OSG Planetary Operations
Covert Intervention
5378
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Posted - 2015.03.12 21:05:00 -
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Sir Dukey wrote:Two 500k isk ADV Missile Tank Gunnlogis cannot take down one flipping Madrugar.
Tried the AHMG- Couldn't even get him to lose over 1000 Armor.
Their 40% hardener makes them rep right through my Proto Swarms.
Jilhad LAV's Don't work.
Proto Forges- they just turn their hardener on and just rep through it.
Tried Blaster with dmg mod- nothing.
Tried everything- They don't budge.
Feels like 1.7 for Armor tanks rt now all thanks to that 40% hardener buff.
Armor hardeners needed a buff but I was concerned about the jump to 40%, particularly since it has a longer duration than shield hardeners of the same resistance.
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Sir Dukey
G0DS AM0NG MEN
General Tso's Alliance
1913
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Posted - 2015.03.12 21:07:00 -
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Pokey Dravon wrote:Sir Dukey wrote:Two 500k isk ADV Missile Tank Gunnlogis cannot take down one flipping Madrugar.
Tried the AHMG- Couldn't even get him to lose over 1000 Armor.
Their 40% hardener makes them rep right through my Proto Swarms.
Jilhad LAV's Don't work.
Proto Forges- they just turn their hardener on and just rep through it.
Tried Blaster with dmg mod- nothing.
Tried everything- They don't budge.
Feels like 1.7 for Armor tanks rt now all thanks to that 40% hardener buff. Armor hardeners needed a buff but I was concerned about the jump to 40%, particularly since it has a longer duration than shield hardeners of the same resistance.
People complained that Shields were passively repping through AV fire with Hardener. Now we have Armor tanks with 200+ Armor rep and Hardener just repping through everything like EZ mode.
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Sir Dukey
G0DS AM0NG MEN
General Tso's Alliance
1913
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Posted - 2015.03.12 21:08:00 -
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Forced Death wrote:Sir Dukey wrote:Two 500k isk ADV Missile Tank Gunnlogis cannot take down one flipping Madrugar.
Tried the AHMG- Couldn't even get him to lose over 1000 Armor.
Their 40% hardener makes them rep right through my Proto Swarms.
Jilhad LAV's Don't work.
Proto Forges- they just turn their hardener on and just rep through it.
Tried Blaster with dmg mod- nothing.
Tried everything- They don't budge.
Feels like 1.7 for Armor tanks rt now all thanks to that 40% hardener buff. Haven't had a chance to logon yet, but good to see that people have moved on from complaining about Missle Tank Gunnlogis being indestructible, to Madrugars being indestructible
Missiles are sadly the worst turret in this game rt now.
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Pokey Dravon
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Posted - 2015.03.12 21:10:00 -
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Sir Dukey wrote:Pokey Dravon wrote:Sir Dukey wrote:Two 500k isk ADV Missile Tank Gunnlogis cannot take down one flipping Madrugar.
Tried the AHMG- Couldn't even get him to lose over 1000 Armor.
Their 40% hardener makes them rep right through my Proto Swarms.
Jilhad LAV's Don't work.
Proto Forges- they just turn their hardener on and just rep through it.
Tried Blaster with dmg mod- nothing.
Tried everything- They don't budge.
Feels like 1.7 for Armor tanks rt now all thanks to that 40% hardener buff. Armor hardeners needed a buff but I was concerned about the jump to 40%, particularly since it has a longer duration than shield hardeners of the same resistance. People complained that Shields were passively repping through AV fire with Hardener. Now we have Armor tanks with 200+ Armor rep and Hardener just repping through everything like EZ mode.
Yeah....passive reps as the primary means of HP regen needs to die asap. We need to bring back the old active modules and nerf passive shield and armor regen into the ground.
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JARREL THOMAS
Dead Man's Game
RUST415
496
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Posted - 2015.03.12 21:11:00 -
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Hey hey team work.
No but really if its a Marduk you should be using team work since they are aswell.
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Sir Dukey
G0DS AM0NG MEN
General Tso's Alliance
1913
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Posted - 2015.03.12 21:11:00 -
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Pokey Dravon wrote:Sir Dukey wrote:Pokey Dravon wrote:Sir Dukey wrote:Two 500k isk ADV Missile Tank Gunnlogis cannot take down one flipping Madrugar.
Tried the AHMG- Couldn't even get him to lose over 1000 Armor.
Their 40% hardener makes them rep right through my Proto Swarms.
Jilhad LAV's Don't work.
Proto Forges- they just turn their hardener on and just rep through it.
Tried Blaster with dmg mod- nothing.
Tried everything- They don't budge.
Feels like 1.7 for Armor tanks rt now all thanks to that 40% hardener buff. Armor hardeners needed a buff but I was concerned about the jump to 40%, particularly since it has a longer duration than shield hardeners of the same resistance. People complained that Shields were passively repping through AV fire with Hardener. Now we have Armor tanks with 200+ Armor rep and Hardener just repping through everything like EZ mode. Yeah....passive reps as the primary means of HP regen needs to die asap. We need to bring back the old active modules and nerf passive shield and armor regen into the ground.
Passive shield regen is already in the ground.
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JARREL THOMAS
Dead Man's Game
RUST415
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Posted - 2015.03.12 21:17:00 -
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But, I don't know why ccp has the habbit of nerfing two things on one thing at once they should've buffed armor hardeners and sheilds hardeners duration or nerfed sheild hardeners down to armor and increased there duration.
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Sir Dukey
G0DS AM0NG MEN
General Tso's Alliance
1913
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Posted - 2015.03.12 21:19:00 -
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JARREL THOMAS wrote:But, I don't know why ccp has the habbit of nerfing two things on one thing at once they should've buffed armor hardeners and sheilds hardeners duration or nerfed sheild hardeners down to armor and increased there duration.
Shield hardeners are fine since shields don't passively rep 200+ through them. Armor Hardeners on the other hand are OP, they have longer resistance, they cool down faster and Armor tanks can rep right through everything thrown their way.
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JARREL THOMAS
Dead Man's Game
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Posted - 2015.03.12 21:27:00 -
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Sir Dukey wrote:JARREL THOMAS wrote:But, I don't know why ccp has the habbit of nerfing two things on one thing at once they should've buffed armor hardeners and sheilds hardeners duration or nerfed sheild hardeners down to armor and increased there duration. Shield hardeners are fine since shields don't passively rep 200+ through them. Armor Hardeners on the other hand are OP, they have longer resistance, they cool down faster and Armor tanks can rep right through everything thrown their way.
Were you going solo AV?
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Pokey Dravon
OSG Planetary Operations
Covert Intervention
5378
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Posted - 2015.03.12 21:29:00 -
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Sir Dukey wrote:
Passive shield regen is already in the ground.
Which is why we need active modules, so shield and armor regen can be for maintenance of HP, and not the primary means of HP regeneration. The whole move to "Passive regeneration is the only viable way to go!" was, and always will be a fools errand.
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Leadfoot10
Molon Labe.
General Tso's Alliance
3508
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Posted - 2015.03.12 21:33:00 -
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The nerf hammer giveth and the nerf hammer taketh away.
Armor tanks have suffered for a while now, but the pendulum does seem to have swung too far the other way.
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Sir Dukey
G0DS AM0NG MEN
General Tso's Alliance
1914
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Posted - 2015.03.12 21:34:00 -
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Pokey Dravon wrote:Sir Dukey wrote:
Passive shield regen is already in the ground.
Which is why we need active modules, so shield and armor regen can be for maintenance of HP, and not the primary means of HP regeneration. The whole move to "Passive regeneration is the only viable way to go!" was, and always will be a fools errand.
Revert tanks to Chromosome. Done.
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Big Daigo
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Posted - 2015.03.12 21:40:00 -
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It isnt indestructable. It is hard to take down, my maddy has taken loads of hits and has still been standing, but if you get in sight of a turret, it'll smoke you. Tbh the armor did need a buff, now it seems more like a tank.
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Sir Dukey
G0DS AM0NG MEN
General Tso's Alliance
1916
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Posted - 2015.03.12 21:40:00 -
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Big Daigo wrote:It isnt indestructable. It is hard to take down, my maddy has taken loads of hits and has still been standing, but if you get in sight of a turret, it'll smoke you. Tbh the armor did need a buff, now it seems more like a tank.
Seems like OP.
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Wayward Psycho
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Posted - 2015.03.12 21:42:00 -
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Poison Diego
Dead Man's Game
RUST415
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Posted - 2015.03.12 21:49:00 -
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Sir Dukey wrote:Two 500k isk ADV Missile Tank Gunnlogis cannot take down one flipping Madrugar.
Tried the AHMG- Couldn't even get him to lose over 1000 Armor.
Their 40% hardener makes them rep right through my Proto Swarms.
Jilhad LAV's Don't work.
Proto Forges- they just turn their hardener on and just rep through it.
Tried Blaster with dmg mod- nothing.
Tried everything- They don't budge.
Feels like 1.7 for Armor tanks rt now all thanks to that 40% hardener buff.
bro there is not to much wrong with the Armor tanks, its the missles.
Missles are horrible now. They were only descent before but are paralized now.
Armor tank is just a little better with that extra 30 reps/sec and that 40% hardner was SOO needed
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Big Daigo
Caldari State
3
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Posted - 2015.03.12 21:53:00 -
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Sir Dukey wrote:Big Daigo wrote:It isnt indestructable. It is hard to take down, my maddy has taken loads of hits and has still been standing, but if you get in sight of a turret, it'll smoke you. Tbh the armor did need a buff, now it seems more like a tank. Seems like OP.
Not even close to OP.
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Sir Dukey
G0DS AM0NG MEN
General Tso's Alliance
1916
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Posted - 2015.03.12 22:13:00 -
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Big Daigo wrote:Sir Dukey wrote:Big Daigo wrote:It isnt indestructable. It is hard to take down, my maddy has taken loads of hits and has still been standing, but if you get in sight of a turret, it'll smoke you. Tbh the armor did need a buff, now it seems more like a tank. Seems like OP. Not even close to OP.
Ye it is.
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True Adamance
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Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
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Posted - 2015.03.12 22:14:00 -
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Sir Dukey wrote:Pokey Dravon wrote:Sir Dukey wrote:Pokey Dravon wrote:Sir Dukey wrote:Two 500k isk ADV Missile Tank Gunnlogis cannot take down one flipping Madrugar.
Tried the AHMG- Couldn't even get him to lose over 1000 Armor.
Their 40% hardener makes them rep right through my Proto Swarms.
Jilhad LAV's Don't work.
Proto Forges- they just turn their hardener on and just rep through it.
Tried Blaster with dmg mod- nothing.
Tried everything- They don't budge.
Feels like 1.7 for Armor tanks rt now all thanks to that 40% hardener buff. Armor hardeners needed a buff but I was concerned about the jump to 40%, particularly since it has a longer duration than shield hardeners of the same resistance. People complained that Shields were passively repping through AV fire with Hardener. Now we have Armor tanks with 200+ Armor rep and Hardener just repping through everything like EZ mode. Yeah....passive reps as the primary means of HP regen needs to die asap. We need to bring back the old active modules and nerf passive shield and armor regen into the ground. Passive shield regen is already in the ground.
124 rep sec is not "in the ground" it's freaking amazing.
Constant interruptible Shield Regen of between 35-45 base and perhaps say 60+ when modded for in addition to boosters is more what I am hoping to see introduced.
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Posted - 2015.03.12 22:17:00 -
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I'm sure as we test the changes Rat et al will tweak accordingly. Post this info in the suggestion forum for the next patch pass.
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Soul Cairn
Negative-Feedback
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Posted - 2015.03.12 22:17:00 -
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True Adamance wrote:
Constant interruptible Shield Regen of between 35-45 base and perhaps say 60+ when modded for in addition to boosters is more what I am hoping to see introduced.
That sig though.
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Big Daigo
Caldari State
5
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Posted - 2015.03.12 22:19:00 -
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Sir Dukey wrote:Big Daigo wrote:Sir Dukey wrote:Big Daigo wrote:It isnt indestructable. It is hard to take down, my maddy has taken loads of hits and has still been standing, but if you get in sight of a turret, it'll smoke you. Tbh the armor did need a buff, now it seems more like a tank. Seems like OP. Not even close to OP. Ye it is.
Then you sir, are high.
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Pokey Dravon
OSG Planetary Operations
Covert Intervention
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Posted - 2015.03.12 23:02:00 -
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Sir Dukey wrote:Pokey Dravon wrote:Sir Dukey wrote:
Passive shield regen is already in the ground.
Which is why we need active modules, so shield and armor regen can be for maintenance of HP, and not the primary means of HP regeneration. The whole move to "Passive regeneration is the only viable way to go!" was, and always will be a fools errand. Revert tanks to Chromosome. Done.
Well not quite. I rather like how the slot layouts for the vehicles are shaping up, so we can't copy it directly. Plus some of the concepts (but not the execution) is decent. I like the more appreciable shield recharge, and passive tanking with modules should totally be possible. Same with the idea behind Passive Armor Reps, I like the idea of a "Stable" rep, but it should be like....50HP/s as a means to do maintenance on armor, with active armor reps for the big bursts of repairing.
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