Large Missiles in general need to be reimagined. This whole "have to gank in 1 salvo or I die" mechanic is just bad. Too binary.

Oh I called it before the hotfix even dropped. With a a binary system like that they're either going to be overpowered, or underpowered. Echo simply moved it from the former to the latter.

I think we can make it a high alpha weapon that's viable, but we need to get away from the current philosophy behind it.

Haven't tested things yet but isn't the missile reload longer now? If it is it might need another pass by CCP Rattati after a week or two to adjust for the new tanks.

I was also not a fan of the "Missile Invalidates all Armour Tank" paradigm.

That would simply double the damage in the magazine, which would make it overpowered again. We have to get away from this "Kill it in one magazine" mentality, it simply will not work.

That would simply double the damage in the magazine, which would make it overpowered again. We have to get away from this "Kill it in one magazine" mentality, it simply will not work.

The Large Missiles were slightly on the overpowered side.

True, the rate of fire became lower than expected. But I'm gonna test it still.
The rate is actually very close to the rate I was aiming to tap at range. Naturally that is not the same instagank like it used to be vs other tankers, but that's only fair.

Then would you take a higher ROF, but a lower damage?

I don't know about that , they changed it where you can fire mid reload but it's only for missiles that I noticed as of yet but you had to have it at least a third of the way before you could fire so that somewhat negated the " long " load time .

If reload is maxed , it doesn't seem that long anyway .

Well, to be fair, assuming my calcs are right.

Large Blaster - Damage to Overheat: 2,848 Damage
Large Blaster - Damage in Magazine: 13,350 Damage
Large Blaster - DPS till Overheat: 1,113 DPS

Large Railgun - Damage to Overheat: 5,089 Damage
Large Railgun - Damage in Magazine: 20,358 Damage
Large Railgun - DPS till Overheat: 1,060 DPS

Large Missile - Damage in Magazine: 6,474 Damage
Large Missile - DPS till Reload: 1,798 DPS

So as you can see the DPS of the Missile turret is actually clearly superior in that it can output more damage before it has to stop to reload (or in the case of the Rail/Blaster, cool down). However it's downtime makes it's sustained DPS very low. So as we've stated before, you typically have to kill the target in the first volley or you're dead.

Increasing the magazine size would make its total damage per magazine completely out of hand. You could reduce the reload speed but with such heavy burst damage, you run risk of it being unmanageable to balance it against other turrets.

Simply put I really need to test it more in-game before I come down to a final conclusion, however I think we basically need to make the burst DPS lower and the sustained DPS higher, it's simply too much of a difference with other turrets. This will likely come down to a mixture of less damage per missile and a faster reload, as well as potentially a slightly larger magazine.