DUST Search - No Rewards for Alts :(

Vesta Opalus wrote:

Greiv Rabbah wrote:

thehellisgoingon wrote:

Hahaha alt of the same psn. Passive sp. Derp derp.

I mean, if you use that recruiter link it gives you bpo's.

I mean just get into battle and jump around so I can shoot you.

With my new Brutor commando M -1 bpo. Pairs nicely with my old quafe combat rifle muhahahahah

So.... You use the recruiter link to farm BPOs with alts that you play?
I let friends set up accounts on my system and then invite them over/drag them over/pay them/give them free drinks to come play. Which effectively means that my recruits only play when there's a party at Greivs house.
But at least its better than reward farming alts for BPOs. Whiiiich is a bannable offense as stated in the recruiter page.
You wanna rethink that admission of guilt?

Who cares if hes guilty or not? CCP's policies push people right into this behavior and its the well known reality that people have a ton of psn accounts if they want to have alts. And here I am using the system as intended with one alt on this same account, and Im getting screwed out of passive XP and items for that alt.

Maybe this thread would serve as a good starter to a discussion about making it less onerous to actually use alt character slots on the same account, so that people can actually use them without feeling like the game is screwing them over while their friends rake in BPOs, newsletter rewards, passive SP, and whatever other one per account event/whatever rewards we ever see in the future.


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Greiv Rabbah M.T.A.C Assault Operations Command Lokun Listamenn 229	Posted - 2015.03.13 03:00:00 - [1] - Quote CCP Frame wrote: Hey guys. The event did state in two places that rewards for this will be account-wide. All you had to do was to win 3 battles on any character and then assign rewards to the character of your choice. http://dust514.com/events/mcc5/ Quote: every player account that won at least three battles during the event period, shall receive the following items on March 12, 11:00 UTC Quote: Active accounts for this event are defined as any character on that account that plays and wins at least 3 matches during the event period. This is what makes the ninja edit feel dishonest. I could sense a "hey it said this all along" was coming, makes me wish I took a picture of the original wording. I didnt get screwed over as bad as ppl that have 3 different players on one account(stay-at-home parents who share their game w/ their kids) but everyone who earned the rewards should have gotten them since its what the event page originally stated. Besides which, even "any character on that account that plays and wins at least 3 matches during the event period" sounds like its by character and not by player I fear the way this has been handled will leave a bad taste in ppls mouths, but overall cool event, cool rewards, sad we couldn't get ppl involved enough to make the original deadline. I had confidence we could do it and we underperformed Sebiestor scout, MTAC pilot, Merc w/ a face
Greiv Rabbah M.T.A.C Assault Operations Command Lokun Listamenn 230	Posted - 2015.03.13 03:17:00 - [2] - Quote thehellisgoingon wrote: Hahaha alt of the same psn. Passive sp. Derp derp. I mean, if you use that recruiter link it gives you bpo's. I mean just get into battle and jump around so I can shoot you. With my new Brutor commando M -1 bpo. Pairs nicely with my old quafe combat rifle muhahahahah So.... You use the recruiter link to farm BPOs with alts that you play? I let friends set up accounts on my system and then invite them over/drag them over/pay them/give them free drinks to come play. Which effectively means that my recruits only play when there's a party at greiv house. But at least its better than reward farming alts for BPOs. Whiiiich is a bannable offense as stated in the recruiter page. You wanna rethink that admission of guilt? Sebiestor scout, MTAC pilot, Merc w/ a face
Greiv Rabbah M.T.A.C Assault Operations Command 230	Posted - 2015.03.13 03:40:00 - [3] - Quote CCP Frame wrote: Greiv Rabbah wrote: I fear the way this has been handled will leave a bad taste in ppls mouths, but overall cool event, cool rewards, sad we couldn't get ppl involved enough to make the original deadline. I had confidence we could do it and we underperformed We apologize if we made you feel that way. Next time we will make it very clear whether it is account-wide or per-character rewards that are being distributed in the event. Well, I was a little let down, but for me it was just alts. Other people may feel differently, but for my part, apology accepted. I understand the ambiguity was not intended. im amazed that i not only got an immediate reply, but an apology at that. No hard feelings. +1 Sebiestor scout, MTAC pilot, Merc w/ a face
Greiv Rabbah M.T.A.C Assault Operations Command 242	Posted - 2015.03.14 00:07:00 - [4] - Quote Luk Manag wrote: Juno Tristan wrote: CCP Frame wrote: Hey guys. The event did state in two places that rewards for this will be account-wide. All you had to do was to win 3 battles on any character and then assign rewards to the character of your choice. http://dust514.com/events/mcc5/ Quote: every player account that won at least three battles during the event period, shall receive the following items on March 12, 11:00 UTC Quote: Active accounts for this event are defined as any character on that account that plays and wins at least 3 matches during the event period. I checked the Dust sub on reddit and it has the original wording that may have suggested that it would be for each character "Active characters for this event are defined as any character that plays and wins at least 3 matches during the event period." Link Thank you. I was pretty sure it originally said "each character" but I didn't reread everything. Everything is remembered on the internet. Th why I called ninja edit. Because there was a ninja edit. Rattata said he'd talk to frame about it and frame came back and apologized. I really feel for ya bc I run alts on the same psn account but we won't be getting our rewards it seems. Please dont take ut personally, no harm was meant by it. Honestly, we didn't even make the deadline so we all should be grateful we even got 1 set of rewards per account Sebiestor scout, MTAC pilot, Merc w/ a face
Greiv Rabbah M.T.A.C Assault Operations Command 242	Posted - 2015.03.14 00:24:00 - [5] - Quote Vesta Opalus wrote: Greiv Rabbah wrote: thehellisgoingon wrote: Hahaha alt of the same psn. Passive sp. Derp derp. I mean, if you use that recruiter link it gives you bpo's. I mean just get into battle and jump around so I can shoot you. With my new Brutor commando M -1 bpo. Pairs nicely with my old quafe combat rifle muhahahahah So.... You use the recruiter link to farm BPOs with alts that you play? I let friends set up accounts on my system and then invite them over/drag them over/pay them/give them free drinks to come play. Which effectively means that my recruits only play when there's a party at Greivs house. But at least its better than reward farming alts for BPOs. Whiiiich is a bannable offense as stated in the recruiter page. You wanna rethink that admission of guilt? Who cares if hes guilty or not? CCP's policies push people right into this behavior and its the well known reality that people have a ton of psn accounts if they want to have alts. And here I am using the system as intended with one alt on this same account, and Im getting screwed out of passive XP and items for that alt. Maybe this thread would serve as a good starter to a discussion about making it less onerous to actually use alt character slots on the same account, so that people can actually use them without feeling like the game is screwing them over while their friends rake in BPOs, newsletter rewards, passive SP, and whatever other one per account event/whatever rewards we ever see in the future. I care because I not only run alts on one account I also participate in the recruiter program and it has always been clearly stated that reward farming the program is an exploit and a bannable offense. Its one thing to have multiple accounts in separate PSNs, unfortunately CCP really does push players in that direction. Its another to do something that's clearly stated as an exploit and then come brag about it. I agree this should become a platform from which to discuss why legitimate alts are punished and 1 per PSN alts are rewarded. This system is backwards. I don't want to take this in the wrong direction and wind up with accounts tracked by IP address or something equally crazy because 1) my partner won't play dust on her own ps3 bc she's seen dust destroy a couple of mine and laughs that I keep buying new ps3s to play it on even including the charron(I named my last ps3 that bc its a dust dedicated ps3 and came with the guristas saga code. Which didn't even work) and I can't get her to play dust on any ps3 except the charron. Also, my recruits never have had enough interest in the game to spend a day downloading it partly bc its all protostomp and no pve. So any time my recruits play, it comes from my IP address and I wouldn't want to be accused of cheating. That said, without going to an extreme and banning people for encouraging new players to try out the game, what can we do to encourage people that use alts in the intended way and discourage using multiple PSN accounts? It seems to me the best solution is something that rewards people who run alts for doing so on a single psn account, as that would give people less reason to feel they need to use multiple PSNs. All of that said, I think people who come out bragging that they cheat and exploit the game in ways that are stated by CCP as ban fodder should get banned. Or else CCP is a toothless dragon making threats they won't keep. As it stands, the situation is that someone here made the claim that they use an exploit to farm rewards and made fun of people like you and I who use alts in the intended way. And a number of people chimed in to agree. I feel like that is a problem that should be addressed Sebiestor scout, MTAC pilot, Merc w/ a face
Greiv Rabbah M.T.A.C Assault Operations Command 242	Posted - 2015.03.14 00:28:00 - [6] - Quote Luk Manag wrote: Yeah, I'm glad they sort of gave away the reward, and I'm not too worried about my alts either because they are both min logi-commando anyway. I just thought it would be nice if my alts were not treated like second-class New Edeners. I know the feels bruh. Cool event though and CCP is doing great pushing development for it after so many thought dust was dead Sebiestor scout, MTAC pilot, Merc w/ a face