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Joseph Ridgeson WarRavens 3300	Posted - 2015.03.11 22:00:00 - [1] - Quote Currently, there is a 20% bonus for being within a certain distance of a Primary Objective while it is in your team's control. This was put forth in hopes that more people would push for the objective or at least congregate around it in order to shoot one another. It was a smart idea. However, I think it would be a better idea to extend that bonus to both teams rather than just having a Defender Bonus. Here are the primary bonuses: 1. In Domination, you can often see where teams just give up. You can notice it as a stomp of any side. It will be 5 minutes into the game and suddenly none on your team are moving for the point. This happened to me several times today. I hacked the point on Fracture Road 3 times only to have my team shooting at the enemy team from the MCC rather than moving in for the Objective. If the bonus was extended, it would at least push people into closer quarters. 2. It rewards people who push their team into victory. Running in as a Scout, throwing down Uplinks to get a foothold situation, in order to better break the turtle that happens. It really, really sucks not getting the 20% bonus despite doing everything you are supposed to do just because the other team is there. 3. It removes the "stomp more" mechanic that is getting Warbarge Strikes 20% faster by leveling out the playing field. It allows the team that is pushing for the objective in order to get Warbarge Strikes faster to break into the Objective. 4. It reduces the sting of just getting utterly rolled at the point. If you can at least get 20% more WP and by that reasoning at least 10% more SP by fighting at the point, it wouldn't be as insulting as trying everything you can and not getting any benefit for trying. 5. For the team that has a chokehold on the point, it encourages the attackers to continue coming for at least the extra 20% WP. Being on the side of the stomp, when it is really really bad, can be boring as hell. 6 minutes into the game and the enemy team are all redlined. They aren't coming out, you have no one to shoot, and it is just a manner of sitting out the time. There is potential that the 20% bonus will encourage more fighting around that area. 6. Similar to 5, it creates a larger focus. One of the reasons I prefer Domination over Ambush is that the central area gives a place to congregate and shoot each other. Walking around trying to find someone to shoot is not as interesting as just shooting people. Extending the bonus gives an incentive to both sides and further creates that central area of shooting. This adds some greater structure beyond just being Ambush. "You can just use Defend Order." This requires a team. People who happen to be on the winning side require no such additional effort in order to receive the bonus. It merely evens the playing field. "This promotes camping the objective." The current bonus already promotes that. In fact, that is THE point of the bonus is to give people a reason to fight at the Objective. Expanding it simply evens the playing field. "This removes the drive to capture the objective." The bonus would give a reason to fight in the area. When the coast is clear, people will grab it for the 100 WP and in order to win. Winning was enough of a reason to grab the Objective before the bonus was created. This change just levels the playing field so that people who try to help their team win are rewarded regardless of the score. Thoughts, suggestions, opinions? "This is B.S! This is B.S! I paid money! Cash money, dollars money, cash money!"
Terry Webber Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance 597	Posted - 2015.03.11 22:25:00 - [2] - Quote I think it's a good idea.
Jakkal Shoobah T.H.I.R.D R.O.C.K RISE of LEGION 88	Posted - 2015.03.11 23:00:00 - [3] - Quote I am Jakkal and I wholeheartedly agree with this. In fact, when they first released the objective defense, I had assumed there would be an opposite aptyl named objective offense. I guess I misunderstood. The same way there is a hack and a counter hack, a kill and a needle, shooting and repair tools, empty magazines and nanohives, there should be a objective defensive bonus and an objective offense bonus. While slow to anger and occasionally indecisive, they are also capable of harnessing enormous resolve when truly tested.
Starlight Burner ROGUE RELICS 160	Posted - 2015.03.12 07:37:00 - [4] - Quote I support OPs idea and suggestion of change. x Starlight Burner Thank god for CCP Rattati!! Rogue Relics is my home away from home.
Joseph Ridgeson WarRavens 3309	Posted - 2015.03.12 18:06:00 - [5] - Quote Thanks for the bumps and support. Is there any potential problem I missed that I could possibly attempt to rectify? I know this isn't as sexy as jump guys but I believe this to be a change that could make this game a little bit more enjoyable to both sides. "This is B.S! This is B.S! I paid money! Cash money, dollars money, cash money!"
Terry Webber Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance 598	Posted - 2015.03.12 19:47:00 - [6] - Quote You pretty much addressed all the potential issues with this so I see nothing else wrong with it.
LOOKMOM NOHANDS Warpoint Sharx 197	Posted - 2015.03.12 20:17:00 - [7] - Quote No Also Joseph Ridgeson wrote: 1. In Domination, you can often see where teams just give up. You can notice it as a stomp of any side. It will be 5 minutes into the game and suddenly none on your team are moving for the point. This happened to me several times today. I hacked the point on Fracture Road 3 times only to have my team shooting at the enemy team from the MCC rather than moving in for the Objective. If the bonus was extended, it would at least push people into closer quarters. This is thanks to that wonderful 150 WP requirement. The only way to fix this is to give incentive for the win. Bonus SP on the victory side would probably be the best but it could also be ISK, guaranteed high level salvage, or even keys.
Joseph Ridgeson WarRavens 3311	Posted - 2015.03.12 20:40:00 - [8] - Quote LOOKMOM NOHANDS wrote: No Also Joseph Ridgeson wrote: 1. In Domination, you can often see where teams just give up. You can notice it as a stomp of any side. It will be 5 minutes into the game and suddenly none on your team are moving for the point. This happened to me several times today. I hacked the point on Fracture Road 3 times only to have my team shooting at the enemy team from the MCC rather than moving in for the Objective. If the bonus was extended, it would at least push people into closer quarters. This is thanks to that wonderful 150 WP requirement. The only way to fix this is to give incentive for the win. Bonus SP on the victory side would probably be the best but it could also be ISK, guaranteed high level salvage, or even keys. I have seen plenty of games of Dominion where people just give up before and after the 150 WP requirement was implemented. 150 requirement was meant to stop true afk farming. It has little, or nothing, to do with lack of trying. I welcome dissent but I am curious what your primary concern is so that I could see possible issues. "This is B.S! This is B.S! I paid money! Cash money, dollars money, cash money!"
Joseph Ridgeson WarRavens 3323	Posted - 2015.03.13 07:18:00 - [9] - Quote cough "This is B.S! This is B.S! I paid money! Cash money, dollars money, cash money!"
Sole Fenychs Sinq Laison Gendarmes Gallente Federation 647	Posted - 2015.03.13 11:45:00 - [10] - Quote Good suggestion. Especially the point about OBs is very valid. It's incredibly silly how that mechanic punishes players who are already losing. People should stop whining about jumps and think about features that actually ruin the game - Like the anti-comeback mechanic that is Warbarge Strikes.

Joseph Ridgeson WarRavens 3364	Posted - 2015.03.15 20:10:00 - [11] - Quote Anyone else? I want to know what people think and if this can be done. "This is B.S! This is B.S! I paid money! Cash money, dollars money, cash money!"
Joseph Ridgeson WarRavens 3491	Posted - 2015.03.21 20:30:00 - [12] - Quote Ech- "This is B.S! This is B.S! I paid money! Cash money, dollars money, cash money!"
Thor Odinson42 Negative-Feedback 6288	Posted - 2015.03.21 21:11:00 - [13] - Quote I'd like to see in game incentives. For example in domination: Take the objective within 2 minutes and get 200 components.
Thor Odinson42 Negative-Feedback 6288	Posted - 2015.03.21 21:12:00 - [14] - Quote But to stay on topic, this should be done ASAP
Vesta Opalus T.H.I.R.D R.O.C.K 535	Posted - 2015.03.23 05:55:00 - [15] - Quote Joseph Ridgeson wrote: Thoughts, suggestions, opinions? Its my thought, opinion, and suggestion that this thread should go to the top of the heap.
Joseph Ridgeson WarRavens 3542	Posted - 2015.03.30 00:58:00 - [16] - Quote Vesta Opalus wrote: Joseph Ridgeson wrote: Thoughts, suggestions, opinions? Its my thought, opinion, and suggestion that this thread should go to the top of the heap. That's kind of you. Devs, it is post FanFest; can I at least get a "good idea, now shut up"? It would make my dweam come twue! "This is B.S! This is B.S! I paid money! Cash money, dollars money, cash money!"
DRT 99 RAT PATROL INC. 333	Posted - 2015.03.30 03:00:00 - [17] - Quote why isnt this done already? only issue i see is that then people might care less about capping. maybe give a 20% bonus to the team with the objective and a 15% bonus to the team without the objective?
Joseph Ridgeson WarRavens 3587	Posted - 2015.04.01 23:26:00 - [18] - Quote DRT 99 wrote: why isnt this done already? only issue i see is that then people might care less about capping. maybe give a 20% bonus to the team with the objective and a 15% bonus to the team without the objective? If people don't care about capping already for the 20% bonus, making it a 15 vs 20% bonus won't change it. Yes, I technically am building an argument against one of my points but I still think 20% for those that are trying or at least in the area so the people that are stomping can shoot them is a better idea. Thanks for the post. "This is B.S! This is B.S! I paid money! Cash money, dollars money, cash money!"
LOOKMOM NOHANDS 425	Posted - 2015.04.01 23:55:00 - [19] - Quote I say make it an objective attack bonus by making it apply when the enemy controls the letter. What gives more incentive to fight back against a full stomp, bonuses for camping the letter or bonuses for attacking when the enemy has it?
One Eyed King Nos Nothi 9020	Posted - 2015.04.02 00:16:00 - [20] - Quote I like it. It seems a good way of rewarding those who are still trying to win a match. Defending only bonus merely rewards a winning team already being rewarded. We need to look for more incentives like these that will reward effort without causing further exploits. Former CEO of the Land of the BIind. Any double entendre is unintended I assure you.

Joseph Ridgeson WarRavens 3591	Posted - 2015.04.02 05:37:00 - [21] - Quote LOOKMOM NOHANDS wrote: I say make it an objective attack bonus by making it apply when the enemy controls the letter. What gives more incentive to fight back against a full stomp, bonuses for camping the letter or bonuses for attacking when the enemy has it? "My team is winning so we are not getting rewarded for defending thew point" is my concern though. When it isn't a stomp but a bloody struggle for the point, which does happen, you don't want to make the side that takes it not get a bonus for doing a good job. "This is B.S! This is B.S! I paid money! Cash money, dollars money, cash money!"

CCP Rattati C C P C C P Alliance 19572	Posted - 2015.04.02 07:04:00 - [22] - Quote it's a good idea "As well as stupid, Rattati is incredibly slow and accident-prone, and cannot even swim"

Kierkegaard Soren Corrosive Synergy Rise Of Legion. 736	Posted - 2015.04.02 07:20:00 - [23] - Quote How about we take this good idea and move it on a bit: WP earned are modified by how far away you are to an objective. Earn wp whilst in the redline? No, you didn't. The closer you get to the point, the higher the wp modifier gets, capping out at +40% whe you're sitting atop of it. Dedicated Commando. "He who can destroy a thing, controls a thing."
Joseph Ridgeson WarRavens 3594	Posted - 2015.04.02 09:35:00 - [24] - Quote CCP Rattati wrote: it's a good idea Thanks for that. Now if only there were someone who could do something about it. bats eyelashes "This is B.S! This is B.S! I paid money! Cash money, dollars money, cash money!"
Breakin Stuff Goonfeet Special Planetary Emergency Response Group 7776	Posted - 2015.04.02 09:45:00 - [25] - Quote CCP Rattati wrote: it's a good idea This sums the post up well. AV


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