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xavier zor
0uter.Heaven Back and Forth
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Posted - 2015.03.11 05:00:00 -
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we are all scrubs
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LUGMOS
Corrosive Synergy RISE of LEGION
2646
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Posted - 2015.03.11 05:01:00 -
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Wha???
Never knew that...
Official QuafeGäó Advocate
Anti-FoTM Prof. V
Forum Scavenger Prof. V
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Archduke Ferd1nand
Nos Nothi
169
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Posted - 2015.03.11 05:02:00 -
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Came in expecting butt hurt plebeian.
Left in agreement.
BRB, looking for socks
Asslut Rifles OP, anal now
I shit shotgun shells and piss Remote Explosives
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hold that
Capital Acquisitions LLC Bad Intention
697
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Posted - 2015.03.11 05:05:00 -
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"the proto community" |
xavier zor
0uter.Heaven Back and Forth
785
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Posted - 2015.03.11 05:07:00 -
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hold that wrote:"the proto community"
that pirate face conveys to little meaning :(
we need a new face
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Mejt0
Dead Man's Game RUST415
1000
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Posted - 2015.03.11 06:49:00 -
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Nah, we're cool, right? Am i right?... Anybody? . .
*cover my face while leaving the room*
Caldari Hero
Loyal To The State
Mejt0 Sale List
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Vicious Minotaur
2112
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Posted - 2015.03.11 06:53:00 -
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The Proto Community
Brought to you by: SC Johnson A family company
I am a minotaur.
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Buwaro Draemon
WarRavens
1175
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Posted - 2015.03.11 06:53:00 -
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I have literally heard players say that they cannot play if they are not using proto gear.
The Forums are a special place.
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Magewarlord
KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION
77
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Posted - 2015.03.11 07:09:00 -
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yeah it's becoming more and more of a problem. where do people get all this ISK to keep running proto all the time, like in ambushes; who runs proto in an ambush? Apparantly half the community. Is it just the higher ups who have so many PC battles that they make tons of ISK and can afford to run it all the time.
I recently have been running cheaper gear to try to make some money cuz my funds are slowly dwindling. I can do alright with cheap stuff and make a buck, but if you get one squad of OH or something then you can kiss you k/d goodbye cuz they will run proto all the way. Can't remember the last OH player who wasn't running proto; maybe just coincidence on my part.
If you do the math and count up a proto user's deaths, you'll see that he definetly lost a couple hundred thousand. Where does all that money come from? Maybe I just don't play enough to notice but I very rarely see the big corps running non-proto gear (dunno if they gotta keep their image up in pubs). Most of us have to do a little grinding in ADV or ST gear to have the funds to run all that proto.
I do get in PC here and there and make money. It just seems like the mediocre players are constantly left out of PC and therefore have to grind to make ISK, and therefore the people who get picked as favorites for PC constantly have the money to out-gun the less fortunate and cuz some frustration and discontent with this game (hence causing people to not want to play).
Bottom line, people don't want to play when they're getting proto stomped and have no means of proto stomping back. |
xavier zor
0uter.Heaven Back and Forth
786
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Posted - 2015.03.11 07:12:00 -
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last time i played, i ran adv gear, but only because i had not unlocked the proto version of it...PC did flood alot of ISK into the game, a hell of a lot more than some need. Reselia, our former CEO had billions of ISK from the reports of others
it is just sitting in her wallet.....stagnant....
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JJ'S
Krusual Covert Operators Minmatar Republic
15
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Posted - 2015.03.11 07:23:00 -
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xavier zor wrote:last time i played, i ran adv gear, but only because i had not unlocked the proto version of it...PC did flood alot of ISK into the game, a hell of a lot more than some need. Reselia, our former CEO had billions of ISK from the reports of others it is just sitting in her wallet.....stagnant....
These players started DUST's launch with 200-500mil. When DUST 514 launched CCP melted everyones salvage and gave them back the ISK at market value...
And in open beta you got alot of vehicles in salvage... Some players had a thousand+ vehicles.. The only thing they got to keep from assets was officer weapons and ISK.
After starting the DUST launch with 200-500mil ISK, PC then soon came after.. Most of these players invested 100-200mil each in investment into their corporations to get PC started...
It took 3-4 months of PC nearly daily before these players saw any returns to ISK and usually spent 100-200mil+ isk in suits and fittings competing as PC was full of competition.
After these people started getting success they started gaining ISK at a steady rate while earning their normal ISK profits from normal pubs... Allowing nothing but gaining wealth for a year of playing DUST.
The corporations who lost out in PC and the players largely under them went broke because they lost their initial investment plus the cost of competing...
The ones who won just kept getting better.... Only Politics and internal drama really split these corporations up.
Most of the vets from this era are sitting with 400m-2bil+ in their wallets... Unless they went on a drunken ADS spree for a month after they where nerfed...
More ISK has been generated in DUST from players creating new character then transferring the 250k ISK off then deleting.. Doing this for how ever many accounts they have the patience for... http://eve-offline.net/?server=dust <--- check the New players created graph... It has been like that for 2 years straight of players farming new character ISK.
PC players at least invested a lot of personal time and ingame assets to gain the advantage... Not grind a character creation and account switching process. |
Magewarlord
KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION
77
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Posted - 2015.03.11 07:30:00 -
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funny thing is: immediately after I typed my last comment, I ran an ambush in basic gear. I died 5 times to a full proto wearing enemy, all 5 deaths were from a core locus grenade, and 2 of those were OH players. PROTO in AMBUSH?? come on guys... I can run proto too but I don't have hundreds of million ISK that I got from "where-ever" |
xavier zor
0uter.Heaven Back and Forth
786
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Posted - 2015.03.11 07:33:00 -
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Magewarlord wrote:funny thing is: immediately after I typed my last comment, I ran an ambush in basic gear. I died 5 times to a full proto wearing enemy, all 5 deaths were from a core locus grenade, and 2 of those were OH players. PROTO in AMBUSH?? come on guys... I can run proto too but I don't have hundreds of million ISK that I got from "where-ever"
you don't expect 300mil ISK to be grinded from pubs do you?
If i had 1 mil of 1 bil, i would still be fine running proto gear...i made money using it when i was actively playing and could do it again (and no, i wasn't with a proto squad)
just if there was a good squad on the enemy team, i would lose ISK
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Magewarlord
KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION
77
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Posted - 2015.03.11 07:45:00 -
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xavier zor wrote:Magewarlord wrote:funny thing is: immediately after I typed my last comment, I ran an ambush in basic gear. I died 5 times to a full proto wearing enemy, all 5 deaths were from a core locus grenade, and 2 of those were OH players. PROTO in AMBUSH?? come on guys... I can run proto too but I don't have hundreds of million ISK that I got from "where-ever" you don't expect 300mil ISK to be grinded from pubs do you? If i had 1 mil of 1 bil, i would still be fine running proto gear...i made money using it when i was actively playing and could do it again (and no, i wasn't with a proto squad) just if there was a good squad on the enemy team, i would lose ISK you saying you made money using a full proto suit? you could barely die twice before losing money. so I guess the big question is: how does one make a hundred million ISK so they can proto stomp? is there a legit method to this or is it only a vet player thing from back in the day? are newer or non--vets screwed into grinding just to go against a decked out squad? COD is a so-so game imo but I think people like it cuz you can pick it up and compete; you don't get stomped by people with better gear and in-game skills. This game takes years of dedication to become godlike. I WANT A MILLION ISK!! |
xavier zor
0uter.Heaven
786
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Posted - 2015.03.11 07:55:00 -
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Magewarlord wrote:xavier zor wrote:Magewarlord wrote:funny thing is: immediately after I typed my last comment, I ran an ambush in basic gear. I died 5 times to a full proto wearing enemy, all 5 deaths were from a core locus grenade, and 2 of those were OH players. PROTO in AMBUSH?? come on guys... I can run proto too but I don't have hundreds of million ISK that I got from "where-ever" you don't expect 300mil ISK to be grinded from pubs do you? If i had 1 mil of 1 bil, i would still be fine running proto gear...i made money using it when i was actively playing and could do it again (and no, i wasn't with a proto squad) just if there was a good squad on the enemy team, i would lose ISK you saying you made money using a full proto suit? you could barely die twice before losing money. so I guess the big question is: how does one make a hundred million ISK so they can proto stomp? is there a legit method to this or is it only a vet player thing from back in the day? are newer or non--vets screwed into grinding just to go against a decked out squad? COD is a so-so game imo but I think people like it cuz you can pick it up and compete; you don't get stomped by people with better gear and in-game skills. This game takes years of dedication to become godlike. I WANT A MILLION ISK!!
well, it is really REALLY easy to NOT die in a pub match using a scout suit...i used the minmitar scout and had spent a lot of time knifing, so yeah...? I would not use a proto sentinel suit and expect to make money with it, i haven't used a sentinel suit as long as i have used the min scout. I'm really saying if you want to be a KD *****, then you can be!! Not everyone can get around 20 kills a game and have not 1 death (not 'blowing my own horn' or anything) When i used proto gear for the first time, i felt godlike. After a while i would play very differently using it because it was expensive, a 'scared' playstyle. I suppose if you can play in it like you would an ADV suit and manage to not get yourself killed, you are set for life
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hold that
Capital Acquisitions LLC Bad Intention
697
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Posted - 2015.03.11 08:55:00 -
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over time, dying once or twice a match nets you a grip of isk |
JJ'S
Krusual Covert Operators Minmatar Republic
17
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Posted - 2015.03.11 15:37:00 -
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xavier zor wrote:Magewarlord wrote:xavier zor wrote:Magewarlord wrote:funny thing is: immediately after I typed my last comment, I ran an ambush in basic gear. I died 5 times to a full proto wearing enemy, all 5 deaths were from a core locus grenade, and 2 of those were OH players. PROTO in AMBUSH?? come on guys... I can run proto too but I don't have hundreds of million ISK that I got from "where-ever" you don't expect 300mil ISK to be grinded from pubs do you? If i had 1 mil of 1 bil, i would still be fine running proto gear...i made money using it when i was actively playing and could do it again (and no, i wasn't with a proto squad) just if there was a good squad on the enemy team, i would lose ISK you saying you made money using a full proto suit? you could barely die twice before losing money. so I guess the big question is: how does one make a hundred million ISK so they can proto stomp? is there a legit method to this or is it only a vet player thing from back in the day? are newer or non--vets screwed into grinding just to go against a decked out squad? COD is a so-so game imo but I think people like it cuz you can pick it up and compete; you don't get stomped by people with better gear and in-game skills. This game takes years of dedication to become godlike. I WANT A MILLION ISK!! well, it is really REALLY easy to NOT die in a pub match using a scout suit...i used the minmitar scout and had spent a lot of time knifing, so yeah...? I would not use a proto sentinel suit and expect to make money with it, i haven't used a sentinel suit as long as i have used the min scout. I'm really saying if you want to be a KD *****, then you can be!! Not everyone can get around 20 kills a game and have not 1 death (not 'blowing my own horn' or anything) When i used proto gear for the first time, i felt godlike. After a while i would play very differently using it because it was expensive, a 'scared' playstyle. I suppose if you can play in it like you would an ADV suit and manage to not get yourself killed, you are set for life
There is a reason a Sentinel suit is 55k not 78k... and the HMG is cheaper.... And the class has considerably less fittings.
People have a hard time looking at the big picture in this game... Sure, you might take a loss on a match here or there.. But most often when a good player averages out their ISK spent vs ISK made running proto... They will find themselves making profit running proto.
There is an expensive initial cost to running the learning curve of learning how to play a Proto suit full time with minimal losses... But after you have learned? You're good to make nothing but profit every day.
The only place now this type of player takes huge losses is when they invest a Few million into a PC match and then loose. But often gambling with profits made from Pubbing is fun as hell.
Now imagine spending 1-2 years earning profit everyday... This is why tons of Pubstars... Players who have never PC'd or have once or twice.. Are sitting with a Billion+
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Viktor Hadah Jr
Negative-Impact Back and Forth
7392
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Posted - 2015.03.11 16:26:00 -
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All proto players you see in pubs have 5Bil+ in there wallet because of PC mechanics of over a year ago. This is a fact.
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EVE, Dust & Corp Services
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Joseph Ridgeson
WarRavens
3297
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Posted - 2015.03.11 16:30:00 -
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Viktor Hadah Jr wrote:All proto players you see in pubs have 5Bil+ in there wallet because of PC mechanics of over a year ago. This is a fact. I generally run Prototype suits and I just have 33 million. Just comes down to using it efficiently.
I think blaming locked PC for Prototype at this point is like blaming your father for hitting you as a child when you are 42 and in prison for robbing a bank; a little bit too after the fact.
"This is B.S! This is B.S! I paid money! Cash money, dollars money, cash money!"
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Regnier Feros
Pielords
254
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Posted - 2015.03.11 16:51:00 -
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xavier zor wrote:we are all scrubs What about the photon community
"You're like a she-male.. hates gym, doesn't know how to be alpha.. you'll stay in the friendzone for life" -Senpai
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Vesta Opalus
T.H.I.R.D R.O.C.K RISE of LEGION
489
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Posted - 2015.03.11 16:53:00 -
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xavier zor wrote:we are all scrubs
n-no Im not a scrub! Im the best! |
Leadfoot10
Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance
3476
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Posted - 2015.03.11 16:53:00 -
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Scrub confirmed, but there's a catch....
I generally run AUR proto suits and weapons.
Kill me, support Dust.
Win:Win. |
Mortishai Belmont
G.L.O.R.Y General Tso's Alliance
612
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Posted - 2015.03.11 16:54:00 -
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I thought that's what everyone turned into as soon as they clicked Dust514 on their playstation games D:
The new C.EO. of G.L.O.R.Y,
I'm that Heavy you warn your team about <3
-Heavy/Commando/Logi/Assault/Scout-
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SgtMajSquish MLBJ
Consolidated Dust
363
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Posted - 2015.03.11 17:09:00 -
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all i see here is the pot calling the kettle black
What role does the shotgun have in team play? NONE. Remove it.
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Joel II X
Bacon with a bottle of Quafe
6638
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Posted - 2015.03.11 17:16:00 -
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:( |
Heracles Porsche
Capital Acquisitions LLC Bad Intention
235
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Posted - 2015.03.11 17:46:00 -
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I've been running Proto heavy a lot. I just shipped him 30 million from another character, but I can abuse proto on him fairly often. Between no show pc cash, getting daily missions on 2-3 characters done, and running APEX the rest of the time, I should have enough to keep him in proto for a good while longer.
I like to run proto heavy in Faction Warfare as often as I can. It's my way of giving back. To the COMMUNITY.
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Ghost Kaisar
Negative-Feedback
10516
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Posted - 2015.03.11 22:10:00 -
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Vesta Opalus wrote:xavier zor wrote:we are all scrubs n-no Im not a scrub! Im the best!
And on top of the scrub pile, sits Vesta Opalus, utterly convinced of his own superiority.
Now, we observe Vesta casually looking around him, Proto suit shining, his finger twitching at the the thought of easy prey approaching.
What's this? Upon the horizon, there is a single dot. It gets larger and larger, faster and faster.
Suddenly, Vesta's heart plummets in his chest. He scrambles off the pile, desperately trying to run. He is however, too late in his endeavor.
The LAV drives right up next to him, and out pops three basic HMG heavies.
The fight is quickly decided. Thus we learn a harsh truth about the wilds. Even the mighty and advanced can be brought down by lots of savages with big sticks.
I don't know why I typed this.
Currently listening to: Max Anarchy OST
Old School Scout, watch out for the knives
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xavier zor
0uter.Heaven
801
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Posted - 2015.03.11 22:13:00 -
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LOL ghost that is the ultimate meaning of scrub
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xavier zor
0uter.Heaven
801
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Posted - 2015.03.11 22:14:00 -
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Regnier Feros wrote:xavier zor wrote:we are all scrubs What about the photon community
time to resurrect that thread from the dead
IT SHALL NEVER BE LOCKED
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Heimdallr69
Negative-Feedback.
4879
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Posted - 2015.03.11 22:28:00 -
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xavier zor wrote:we are all scrubs This is actually true.. Does anyone even play dust sober anymore? I can't, it's too boring that way
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