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Shinobi MumyoSakanagare ZaShigurui wrote:

MINA Longstrike wrote:

The forge gun and plasma cannon can miss. Swarms seldom do. They apply their dps very consistently and their dps is IIRC still among the best that av has to offer (aside from packed av grenades).

You do know with battlefield awareness and a AB , you can outrun swarm right . I do it and can't understand some of you so called " pilots " in this game .

Boast about being so good but playing so bad at times and always seem to be complaining about not being strong and what's strong against you while you have they skies and maneuverability that ground vehicles only can dream of and you don't have to deal with nearly as many obstacles either .

Forge guns are better and more efficient .

If people weren't so basic you would see more but you just have most that shy away from anything having to do with the heavy role because they get bashed so much and changed so often , you just don't know what's next .

I love the Forge Gun .

I need to skill back into it .

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Juno Tristan Obscure Reference 421	Posted - 2015.03.11 02:19:00 - [1] - Quote What's your opinion of the current Swarm Launcher performance? And what are the key criteria you are using to base it on? ADS Ramming Revenge! Plasma Cannon Rampage
Juno Tristan Obscure Reference 426	Posted - 2015.03.11 23:28:00 - [2] - Quote Bump ADS Ramming Revenge! Plasma Cannon Rampage
Juno Tristan Obscure Reference 444	Posted - 2015.03.16 05:48:00 - [3] - Quote Would it help if I said please ADS Ramming Revenge! Plasma Cannon Rampage
Kallas Hallytyr Skullbreakers 1390	Posted - 2015.03.16 06:07:00 - [4] - Quote I would also like to know. Alt of Halla Murr. Sentinel.
Apocalyptic Destroyer Killers 4 Hire 327	Posted - 2015.03.16 06:18:00 - [5] - Quote There's no real answer for this. But I guarantee you, if you say something pertaining to nerfing the Swarms or giving them a buff. You'll get answers. True Amarr In Disguise Pain is weakness leaving the body Proto : ADS Pilot, Tanker Ak.0 : Mando, Scout, Assault
Juno Tristan Obscure Reference 510	Posted - 2015.04.07 01:47:00 - [6] - Quote How has hotfix echo affected this? ADS Ramming Revenge! Plasma Cannon Rampage
Kinyuhk Goluhh Mikramurka Shock Troop Minmatar Republic 24	Posted - 2015.04.07 04:24:00 - [7] - Quote My opinion is that it's an anti-artillery weapon that belongs in the secondary slot. It has no business being a primary and didn't have a spot on my custom loadouts until I went Commando Heavy(Dual Light weapons). Scratch that, this things so weak and worthless it should be equipment. Can't even shoot it at anything except vehicles, specifically tanks or dropships. Lock-on takes too long and is pointless if the rockets smash in a wall. The Forge Gun does a better job. 4/1/2015 at 3:05pm history was made. CCP Rattati announced the new matchmaking system.
MEDICO RITARDATO Dead Man's Game 486	Posted - 2015.04.07 08:38:00 - [8] - Quote Kinyuhk Goluhh wrote: My opinion is that it's an anti-artillery weapon that belongs in the secondary slot. It has no business being a primary and didn't have a spot on my custom loadouts until I went Commando Heavy(Dual Light weapons). Scratch that, this things so weak and worthless it should be equipment. Can't even shoot it at anything except vehicles, specifically tanks or dropships. Lock-on takes too long and is pointless if the rockets smash in a wall. The Forge Gun does a better job. The pen is on the table. TheD1CK is a scrub. You piece of MOROANSSS.
MINA Longstrike Kirjuun Heiian 2488	Posted - 2015.04.07 08:48:00 - [9] - Quote Kinyuhk Goluhh wrote: My opinion is that it's an anti-artillery weapon that belongs in the secondary slot. It has no business being a primary and didn't have a spot on my custom loadouts until I went Commando Heavy(Dual Light weapons). Scratch that, this things so weak and worthless it should be equipment. Can't even shoot it at anything except vehicles, specifically tanks or dropships. Lock-on takes too long and is pointless if the rockets smash in a wall. The Forge Gun does a better job. The forge gun and plasma cannon can miss. Swarms seldom do. They apply their dps very consistently and their dps is IIRC still among the best that av has to offer (aside from packed av grenades). Hnolai ki tuul, ti sei oni a tiu. Kirjuun Heiian. I have a few alts.
Breakin Stuff Goonfeet Special Planetary Emergency Response Group 7863	Posted - 2015.04.07 09:48:00 - [10] - Quote Kinyuhk Goluhh wrote: My opinion is that it's an anti-artillery weapon that belongs in the secondary slot. It has no business being a primary and didn't have a spot on my custom loadouts until I went Commando Heavy(Dual Light weapons). Scratch that, this things so weak and worthless it should be equipment. Can't even shoot it at anything except vehicles, specifically tanks or dropships. Lock-on takes too long and is pointless if the rockets smash in a wall. The Forge Gun does a better job. Are you new? Or are you trolling? Because if the answer is neither? Puff puff give, motherf***er. You're messing up the rotation. AV

Kinyuhk Goluhh Mikramurka Shock Troop Minmatar Republic 24	Posted - 2015.04.07 12:58:00 - [11] - Quote MINA Longstrike wrote: The forge gun and plasma cannon can miss. Swarms seldom do For a competent driver, avoiding those rockets aren't anywhere near impossible and I've seen plenty of people miss due to the enemy quickly getting behind a building, can't sit there forever waiting for them to come out now can you? In my experience, doing that makes you a target to scouts or snipers and who doesn't hear that sound or see those red glowing rockets coming at them? I know you can upgrade it's damage, etc. but it costs SP, freakin' SP to make it useful. 4/1/2015 at 3:05pm history was made. CCP Rattati announced the new matchmaking system.
Breakin Stuff Goonfeet Special Planetary Emergency Response Group 7864	Posted - 2015.04.07 14:16:00 - [12] - Quote Kinyuhk Goluhh wrote: I know you can upgrade it's damage, etc. but it costs SP, freakin' SP to make it useful. You gave the troll away there. Gotta be less obvious in the future. AV
Spkr4theDead Red Star. 3160	Posted - 2015.04.07 20:09:00 - [13] - Quote Kinyuhk Goluhh wrote: My opinion is that it's an anti-artillery weapon that belongs in the secondary slot. It has no business being a primary and didn't have a spot on my custom loadouts until I went Commando Heavy(Dual Light weapons). Scratch that, this things so weak and worthless it should be equipment. Can't even shoot it at anything except vehicles, specifically tanks or dropships. Lock-on takes too long and is pointless if the rockets smash in a wall. The Forge Gun does a better job. If it's taking too long to lock on, maybe you should get it to level 5. It's called an anti-vehicle weapon, what else should it be? Dumb fire was taken away because it ruined the game during closed beta. Nope. Confirming that pilot input is not, and never was, valued. - Breakin Stuff
Kinyuhk Goluhh Mikramurka Shock Troop Minmatar Republic 25	Posted - 2015.04.07 22:08:00 - [14] - Quote Spkr4theDead wrote: If it's taking too long to lock on, maybe you should get it to level 5. It's called an anti-vehicle weapon, what else should it be? Dumb fire was taken away because it ruined the game during closed beta. I don't have a mil SP lying around to upgrade that crap and who even would spend SP on it when it's artillery only? except as like the very last thing. I propose adding in the ability to lock on to any location. 4/1/2015 at 3:05pm history was made. CCP Rattati announced the new matchmaking system.
Shinobi MumyoSakanagare ZaShigurui Onikanabo Brigade Caldari State 1930	Posted - 2015.04.07 22:58:00 - [15] - Quote MINA Longstrike wrote: The forge gun and plasma cannon can miss. Swarms seldom do. They apply their dps very consistently and their dps is IIRC still among the best that av has to offer (aside from packed av grenades). You do know with battlefield awareness and a AB , you can outrun swarm right . I do it and can't understand some of you so called " pilots " in this game . Boast about being so good but playing so bad at times and always seem to be complaining about not being strong and what's strong against you while you have they skies and maneuverability that ground vehicles only can dream of and you don't have to deal with nearly as many obstacles either . Forge guns are better and more efficient . If people weren't so basic you would see more but you just have most that shy away from anything having to do with the heavy role because they get bashed so much and changed so often , you just don't know what's next . I love the Forge Gun . I need to skill back into it . Doubts are like flies and should be treated as such and crushed . #PubsShouldBeRandomPlayers
Kallas Hallytyr Skullbreakers 1447	Posted - 2015.04.07 23:29:00 - [16] - Quote Shinobi MumyoSakanagare ZaShigurui wrote: You do know with battlefield awareness and a AB , you can outrun swarm right . I do it and can't understand some of you so called " pilots " in this game . Battlefield awareness is hard when either the players, the missiles themselves or sounds of the missiles don't render. As for the AB, you cannot outrun Swarms but you can reach the 400m line before the reach you, if you react quickly enough. That said, the Swarm has still removed you from the fight for roughly thirty plus seconds just by firing a couple of missiles over the course of five seconds. Shinobi MumyoSakanagare ZaShigurui wrote: Forge guns are better and more efficient . No, they really are not. Statistically, a Swarm is simply better at damage, and in game the Swarm has far, far better application. Alt of Halla Murr. Sentinel.
MINA Longstrike Kirjuun Heiian 2497	Posted - 2015.04.07 23:32:00 - [17] - Quote Shinobi MumyoSakanagare ZaShigurui wrote: MINA Longstrike wrote: The forge gun and plasma cannon can miss. Swarms seldom do. They apply their dps very consistently and their dps is IIRC still among the best that av has to offer (aside from packed av grenades). You do know with battlefield awareness and a AB , you can outrun swarm right . I do it and can't understand some of you so called " pilots " in this game . Boast about being so good but playing so bad at times and always seem to be complaining about not being strong and what's strong against you while you have they skies and maneuverability that ground vehicles only can dream of and you don't have to deal with nearly as many obstacles either . Forge guns are better and more efficient . If people weren't so basic you would see more but you just have most that shy away from anything having to do with the heavy role because they get bashed so much and changed so often , you just don't know what's next . I love the Forge Gun . I need to skill back into it . Yeah, given extremely ideal circumstances you can 'outrun' a swarm. These are not always present which means that swarms if presented an 'average' situation, tend to apply the majority of their dps. Hnolai ki tuul, ti sei oni a tiu. Kirjuun Heiian. I have a few alts.
Godin Thekiller Negative-Feedback. Negative-Feedback 3036	Posted - 2015.04.08 02:34:00 - [18] - Quote Kinyuhk Goluhh wrote: My opinion is that it's an anti-artillery weapon that belongs in the secondary slot. It has no business being a primary and didn't have a spot on my custom loadouts until I went Commando Heavy(Dual Light weapons). Scratch that, this things so weak and worthless it should be equipment. Can't even shoot it at anything except vehicles, specifically tanks or dropships. Lock-on takes too long and is pointless if the rockets smash in a wall. The Forge Gun does a better job. You fail at trolling. Who's alt is this? click me Blup Blub Bloop. Translation: Die -_-
Godin Thekiller Negative-Feedback. Negative-Feedback 3036	Posted - 2015.04.08 02:37:00 - [19] - Quote Kallas Hallytyr wrote: Shinobi MumyoSakanagare ZaShigurui wrote: You do know with battlefield awareness and a AB , you can outrun swarm right . I do it and can't understand some of you so called " pilots " in this game . Battlefield awareness is hard when either the players, the missiles themselves or sounds of the missiles don't render. As for the AB, you cannot outrun Swarms but you can reach the 400m line before the reach you, if you react quickly enough. That said, the Swarm has still removed you from the fight for roughly thirty plus seconds just by firing a couple of missiles over the course of five seconds. Shinobi MumyoSakanagare ZaShigurui wrote: Forge guns are better and more efficient . No, they really are not. Statistically, a Swarm is simply better at damage, and in game the Swarm has far, far better application. This, swarms definitely need fixing. click me Blup Blub Bloop. Translation: Die -_-


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