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Sgt Kirk
Fatal Absolution
Negative-Feedback
9821
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Posted - 2015.03.11 16:47:00 -
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Loyal Glasses wrote:Wouldn't it be better if we just get rid of the weapons based bonus and just increase those suits base advantages?
Amarr - 5% armor increase and 3% stamina
Caldari - 5% shield increase and 3% shield recharge
Minmatar - 5% shield recharge and 3% sprint speed
Gallente - 5% armor repair and and 3% armor increase
or something along those lines anyways.
This right here, is honestly what I was hoping someone would eventually get to.
+1 to you man.
As much as I'd love to have a weapons and suit bonus Rattati or someone has stated its a code issue to change the suit classes bonus or some jive like that. I'd much rather have those traits that increases the attributes of the races assaulting characteristics than a weapon bonus.
As much is id love to have both. Maybe then from it being naked we could see where good but non overpowering bonuses would come into play if they ever fixed the overall class bonus.
As long as 4/5 (80%) of infantry AV weapons are Anti Armor based you're never going to achieve vehicle balance CCP
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Nocturnal Soul
Primordial Threat
5836
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Posted - 2015.03.11 17:11:00 -
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Sgt Kirk wrote:Loyal Glasses wrote:Wouldn't it be better if we just get rid of the weapons based bonus and just increase those suits base advantages?
Amarr - 5% armor increase and 3% stamina
Caldari - 5% shield increase and 3% shield recharge
Minmatar - 5% shield recharge and 3% sprint speed
Gallente - 5% armor repair and and 3% armor increase
or something along those lines anyways. This right here, is honestly what I was hoping someone would eventually get to. +1 to you man. As much as I'd love to have a weapons and suit bonus Rattati or someone has stated its a code issue to change the suit classes bonus or some jive like that. I'd much rather have those traits that increases the attributes of the races assaulting characteristics than a weapon bonus. As much is id love to have both. Maybe then from it being naked we could see where good but non overpowering bonuses would come into play if they ever fixed the overall class bonus.
What about giving that bonus to the basic frames
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Sgt Kirk
Fatal Absolution
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Posted - 2015.03.11 17:12:00 -
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Nocturnal Soul wrote:
What about giving that bonus to the basic frames
which bonus set?
As long as 4/5 (80%) of infantry AV weapons are Anti Armor based you're never going to achieve vehicle balance CCP
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Nocturnal Soul
Primordial Threat
5838
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Posted - 2015.03.11 17:37:00 -
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Sgt Kirk wrote:Nocturnal Soul wrote:
What about giving that bonus to the basic frames
which bonus set?
Well ever since I first played eve I've always wanted the basic frames to have bonuses like those above with the exception of the Amarr getting a resistance module bonus instead but CCP
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LASERS BTCH!!!!!!
The Incursions are back... and they're golden baby!
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Alena Ventrallis
Intara Direct Action
Caldari State
2628
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Posted - 2015.03.11 17:50:00 -
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Sgt Kirk wrote:
Pay attention to the point in my thread where I say if the Operator is able or skilled enough.
Whatever the word I used.
So skill is to be punished? Should we set all weapons to the same range, damage, ROF, mag size and reserve ammo, in order to have everyone on a completely level playing field?
Some people are really good with certain weapons. Why should we nerf weapons based on who is good with it?
Listen to my muscle memory
Contemplate what I've been clinging to
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Sgt Kirk
Fatal Absolution
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Posted - 2015.03.11 17:51:00 -
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Alena Ventrallis wrote:Sgt Kirk wrote:
Pay attention to the point in my thread where I say if the Operator is able or skilled enough.
Whatever the word I used.
So skill is to be punished? Should we set all weapons to the same range, damage, ROF, mag size and reserve ammo, in order to have everyone on a completely level playing field? Some people are really good with certain weapons. Why should we nerf weapons based on who is good with it?
I have no clue what point you're trying to make in your strawman argument.
As long as 4/5 (80%) of infantry AV weapons are Anti Armor based you're never going to achieve vehicle balance CCP
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Sgt Kirk
Fatal Absolution
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9824
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Posted - 2015.03.11 17:52:00 -
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Nocturnal Soul wrote:Sgt Kirk wrote:Nocturnal Soul wrote:
What about giving that bonus to the basic frames
which bonus set? Well ever since I first played eve I've always wanted the basic frames to have bonuses like those above with the exception of the Amarr getting a resistance module bonus instead but CCP
Resistance bonuses would have been great had they try to implement it :(. and I'd love for basic frames to at least get some kind of love.
As long as 4/5 (80%) of infantry AV weapons are Anti Armor based you're never going to achieve vehicle balance CCP
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Alena Ventrallis
Intara Direct Action
Caldari State
2628
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Posted - 2015.03.11 18:00:00 -
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Sgt Kirk wrote:Alena Ventrallis wrote:Sgt Kirk wrote:
Pay attention to the point in my thread where I say if the Operator is able or skilled enough.
Whatever the word I used.
So skill is to be punished? Should we set all weapons to the same range, damage, ROF, mag size and reserve ammo, in order to have everyone on a completely level playing field? Some people are really good with certain weapons. Why should we nerf weapons based on who is good with it? I have no clue what point you're trying to make in your strawman argument.
That operator skill cannot be ignored when talking weapon balance. Ease-of-use is just as valid a factor as range or DPS. For instance, the ScR has massive DPS, but operator error can easily cut 33% of your potential DPS because you missed.
I just don't understand the argument that since some peope are really good with a weapon, it's reason to tweak it. We have to take into account how easily a weapon can apply it's DPS in addition to other factors. We can't assume all users of a particular weapon are equally skilled.
Listen to my muscle memory
Contemplate what I've been clinging to
Forty-six and two ahead of me
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