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If everyone used Militia Minmatar Light frames with Basic Scrambler Rifles/Shotguns, while only using Damage Mods and Stamina Mods in their slots, the kill counts would go through the roof.

Dont even try to deny it...

im starting to like this event.
its REALLY obvious who enjoys having fun and contributing and who has an addiction to being a douche.

i hope ur reading this garbage ccp, no matter what incentives u offer ppl they will still proto squad and defend it.

The only people making threads about proto stomping and the event are proto stompers.

You are Amarr.

You don't know when you're wrong. It's in your blood.

Viktor, a lot of the time you are correct in what you say, so it saddens me to have to say you are wrong this time.

You're saying that stompers are helping kill clones faster? It is true that they kill faster than mlt wielding mercs. However, unfortunately they are also playing normally, I.E. destroying uplinks. They are making games longer by forcing the enemy team to have to travel further distances. Their Logi's are reviving them when they die, thus costing the event total a clone everytime they do so, all in the interest of saving isk.

Now, if Stompers were leaving uplinks on the field, and Logi's were not repping or reviving them, you'd be correct. But like I said, unfortunately this is not so.

Playing recklessly and without any regards to safety or self preservation will create a larger body count.


Guarding your suits, playing cautiously, letting a logi do something other than throw down more ammo, is a waste of time.


Throw yourself into the pandemonium! Let chaos guide you! Become death, eat death, give death, and receive death!

Nice argument but you're assuming that the people who are getting repeatedly stomped are STAYING to continue the slaughter. Less players willing to give a **** and stay around = less numbers to kill

Your argument is that the most clones are killed with Sharks and Goldfish. All Goldfish or all Sharks make for fun games, not slaughters and slaughters is what will win this event. The problem is that no one likes to always be a Goldfish, they either quit or become Sharks themselves, mostly they quit or quit trying. You can blame the Goldfish but it is equally valid to blame the Sharks.

If the Sharks force people to quit or hide then there is less overall killing and we have a few poor Goldfish doing all the dying.

Your argument:
Protostomping has always been here and people still play this game.

Our argument:
That's true, but they're choosing not to play this game for the DURATION of this event BECAUSE of the persistent protostomping spam across all gamemodes.

Which completely negates your argument that it is actually helping this event. It's not. People are struggling through their 3 victories and immediately leaving. Most people are spamming ambush, praying they get the stomp side. If not, they leave battle immediately.

So:

Influx of newer/militia players vs protostompers -> X clones die | few clones die = influx leaves
New influx of newer/militia players vs Same protostompers -> X clones die | few clones die = influx leaves
Eventually no new influx but protostomping team vs protostompers -> X clones die at slower rate

The only thing driving the 'new' influx is players just getting on for the day. So we have a playerbase that would like to participate that is being driven away and the same half set being depleted. With a random game here or there that also pulls out proto to even out a match.

Which has nothing to do with players still playing the game but everything to do with why this weekend will fail.

However, given how much this community is already over this event in mindset, and how CCP hasn't released any numbers (because let's face it, we're not reaching that goal without flat out lying) we can all continue believing what we want, doing the bare minimum and still reap the rewards.

Again. You're not reading my words. Proto has been here forever. I'm agreeing with you. People still play this game, I'm agreeing with you.

I'm saying people are leaving THIS EVENT. Not the game forever. For this EVENT. Hence, eventually because no one wants to stick around for THIS EVENT, protos are actually finding each other in matches between the influx of players actually trying for their 3 wins within THIS EVENT. Which is why your argument that protostomping is helping THIS EVENT is invalid.

Not sure how I can make that any clearer...

Glad to see your trying to defend this but your just dead wrong.

Not everyone has the isk or the people to play with to stomp, you know some of us if not the majority of the playerbase treats this as what it is...A game. You know?

Not something thats just gonna cause a whole lot of frustration just barely getting in their three wins and just constantly losing match after match.

People just stop playing at that point because its no longer fun anymore and the playerbase shrinks some more.

Just cause you can stomp doesn't help the event, the players, or the game. Stop trying to justify it.

PRO vs MLT most the guys in my pub channels have gotten bored, logged in for the 1 win for the day and went to play destiny. means less players to kill and less games being played at once

MLT vs MLT more balanced games means more players stay around and more games happening at once and a higher kill count over time

In a perfect world maybe... But if you don't ignore that people are going to run away and make it harder for the proto players to kill them, because we don't want to pad their kdr and be bored, while they get to go about their daily 'pew pew' to feed their epeen.

militia vs militia, no one cares about dieing, so there's very little 'chase,' just a whole lot of people running at each other head first, hoping for the best.


Now if the proto-stompers want to split the roles evenly, one match one team is proto and the next match those players take the role of militia lemmings... But that's not going to happen, because it's just an excuse to pad their kdr.

Clearly Viktor wants attention.

All I see in his OP is crap. Crap thay lacks "support" aka evidence in order to back it up.

You think proto stompers end the matches quick ? Are you kidding me, that is bull. What game are you playing ?