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Crimson ShieId Sinq Laison Gendarmes Gallente Federation 2022	Posted - 2015.03.06 19:33:00 - [1] - Quote https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=195043&find=unread Title. I'm all for giving a buff to the close range engagements, melee and Nova Knives will definitely benefit from this (Grumbles As will shotguns) but I can't help but think an 85% reduction in backwards movement speed is a bit much. It's going to slow things down to a literal crawl when walking backwards. 50% or even 60% would seem like a safer route to start with, easy to tweak without completely cutting out the ability to do something in the game. No, I don't have any concrete arguments against it, it's just one of those things that seems to be a tad overdoing it. I want to punch.
Kaeru Nayiri Ready to Play 551	Posted - 2015.03.06 19:41:00 - [2] - Quote I think you misunderstood, they're not nerfing back wards movement BY 85%, they're bringing it down TO 85% of front movement. In other words, it's only a 15% difference. Know what cannot be known.
Pokey Dravon OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention 5228	Posted - 2015.03.06 19:45:00 - [3] - Quote Kaeru Nayiri wrote: I think you misunderstood, they're not nerfing back wards movement BY 85%, they're bringing it down TO 85% of front movement. In other words, it's only a 15% difference. Thats how I read it as well. Backwards movement will equal 85% of forward movement. So 15% reduction which is quite reasonable imo. "That little s**t Pokey..." --CCP Rattati, Biomassed Episode 032 Dust514 // Podcast www.biomassed.net
Crimson ShieId Sinq Laison Gendarmes Gallente Federation 2024	Posted - 2015.03.06 21:12:00 - [4] - Quote Kaeru Nayiri wrote: I think you misunderstood, they're not nerfing back wards movement BY 85%, they're bringing it down TO 85% of front movement. In other words, it's only a 15% difference. Ooooh. Well, if that's the case, then awesome! Guess I had cloaks on the brain. Thanks for the clarification then! I want to punch.
Adipem Nothi Nos Nothi 7346	Posted - 2015.03.07 01:51:00 - [5] - Quote Pokey Dravon wrote: Kaeru Nayiri wrote: I think you misunderstood, they're not nerfing back wards movement BY 85%, they're bringing it down TO 85% of front movement. In other words, it's only a 15% difference. Thats how I read it as well. Backwards movement will equal 85% of forward movement. So 15% reduction which is quite reasonable imo. ^ I believe that backpedaling in your merc quarters is roughly 50% of forward movement; it feels unnaturally slow. Backpedal at 15% of forward movement would be like not moving at all. I suspect that 85% will feel pretty good, but we won't know 'til we get in there and try it out :-) Shoot scout with yes. - Ripley Riley

CCP Rattati C C P C C P Alliance 18150	Posted - 2015.03.07 03:01:00 - [6] - Quote yes 85% of speed, not reduced by 85% "As well as stupid, Rattati is incredibly slow and accident-prone, and cannot even swim"

emm kay Direct Action Resources 275	Posted - 2015.03.07 04:08:00 - [7] - Quote CCP Rattati wrote: yes 85% of speed, not reduced by 85% can we get the same thing for tanks? There is a reason you never see me in battle. it's because I see you first.
Kuruld Sengar Demonite's Legion 245	Posted - 2015.03.07 08:08:00 - [8] - Quote emm kay wrote: CCP Rattati wrote: yes 85% of speed, not reduced by 85% can we get the same thing for tanks? No, running is the only way to be remotely competitive when solo tanking against current av...
RedPencil Random Gunz RISE of LEGION 169	Posted - 2015.03.07 09:10:00 - [9] - Quote Kuruld Sengar wrote: emm kay wrote: CCP Rattati wrote: yes 85% of speed, not reduced by 85% can we get the same thing for tanks? No, running is the only way to be remotely competitive when solo tanking against current av... Then run forward Beware Paper cut M[;..;]M
HOLY PERFECTION UNIVERSAL C.A.R.N.A.G.E 55	Posted - 2015.03.07 09:12:00 - [10] - Quote Crimson ShieId wrote: Kaeru Nayiri wrote: I think you misunderstood, they're not nerfing back wards movement BY 85%, they're bringing it down TO 85% of front movement. In other words, it's only a 15% difference. Ooooh. Well, if that's the case, then awesome! Guess I had cloaks on the brain. Thanks for the clarification then! DUMBASS *I WILL WIN... DESTINY*
CommanderBolt KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION 3176	Posted - 2015.03.07 11:37:00 - [11] - Quote Honestly this will affect me as a speed scout more than most (arguably) but I feel that for the sake of balance and to help NK'ers 85% backwards speed sounds really quite fair to me. We will only know when we get to test it hands on. But the numbers sound fair. I roughly estimated that my backwards speed on my dragonfly will be around the 4.25 M/S while my forwards speed is around 5 M/S. Vitantur Nothus wrote: Why hide a solution under frothy pile of derpa? MY LIFE FOR AIUR!
CUSE TOWN333 KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION 2245	Posted - 2015.03.07 14:36:00 - [12] - Quote Crimson ShieId wrote: https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=195043&find=unread Title. I'm all for giving a buff to the close range engagements, melee and Nova Knives will definitely benefit from this (Grumbles As will shotguns) but I can't help but think an 85% reduction in backwards movement speed is a bit much. It's going to slow things down to a literal crawl when walking backwards. 50% or even 60% would seem like a safer route to start with, easy to tweak without completely cutting out the ability to do something in the game. No, I don't have any concrete arguments against it, it's just one of those things that seems to be a tad overdoing it. Edit: Stop liking my fail in reading comprehension, gosh darn it! It was like 4AM, I swear I wasn't drunk. the nerf was more aimed at preventing the male mercs from dryhumping the female mercs in the warbarge. KEQ diplomat
Spkr4theDead Red Star. 3043	Posted - 2015.03.07 14:58:00 - [13] - Quote No, the side sprinting while shooting, literally running a circle around me while all I can do is essentially spin in place to try to keep up, needs to end. You can't move backwards as fast as you can forwards. It's simple human physiology. Nope. Confirming that pilot input is not, and never was, valued. - Breakin Stuff
Pokey Dravon OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention 5249	Posted - 2015.03.07 17:10:00 - [14] - Quote HOLY PERFECTION wrote: Crimson ShieId wrote: Kaeru Nayiri wrote: I think you misunderstood, they're not nerfing back wards movement BY 85%, they're bringing it down TO 85% of front movement. In other words, it's only a 15% difference. Ooooh. Well, if that's the case, then awesome! Guess I had cloaks on the brain. Thanks for the clarification then! DUMBASS Geeze it was an honest mistake, don't be an ass to him about it. "That little s**t Pokey..." --CCP Rattati, Biomassed Episode 032 Dust514 // Podcast www.biomassed.net
Crimson ShieId Sinq Laison Gendarmes Gallente Federation 2049	Posted - 2015.03.07 17:17:00 - [15] - Quote Pokey Dravon wrote: HOLY PERFECTION wrote: Crimson ShieId wrote: Kaeru Nayiri wrote: I think you misunderstood, they're not nerfing back wards movement BY 85%, they're bringing it down TO 85% of front movement. In other words, it's only a 15% difference. Ooooh. Well, if that's the case, then awesome! Guess I had cloaks on the brain. Thanks for the clarification then! DUMBASS Geeze it was an honest mistake, don't be an ass to him about it. I would have been shocked if one of these hadn't come along. I certainly don't mind though ^~^ Always nice to have someone join the party two days late. Now go on, Pokey, there are other threads who require nice people more than this one. Go spread that optimism to the other forum goers. I want to punch.
Pokey Dravon OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention 5250	Posted - 2015.03.07 17:25:00 - [16] - Quote Crimson ShieId wrote: I would have been shocked if one of these hadn't come along. I certainly don't mind though ^~^ Always nice to have someone join the party two days late. Now go on, Pokey, there are other threads who require nice people more than this one. Go spread that optimism to the other forum goers. Me? Nice? I think you've got the wrong guy I don't mind when people make mistakes, it's when they make mistakes and act like douches that I get pissed off. To be fair when I first looked at some of the % bonuses for the vehicle modules in that proposal, I thought Rattati had accidentally placed STD->PRO in reverse because the PRO module was a smaller %....obviously he was listing what it gets reduced TO and not BY which I quickly realized, but yeah, honest mistake considering most modules in-game are listed by what the reduction is, not by what it gets reduced to. "That little s**t Pokey..." --CCP Rattati, Biomassed Episode 032 Dust514 // Podcast www.biomassed.net
Killer's Coys Prima Gallicus 254	Posted - 2015.03.07 20:40:00 - [17] - Quote CCP Rattati wrote: yes 85% of speed, not reduced by 85% Good job Rattati. So bored to try to cut people but they run back fatser than you in front... I'm sorry for my bad English writting and comprehension.

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