DUST Search - Someone explain the context of "Try-Hard" to me please.

DeadlyAztec11 wrote:

True Adamance wrote:

DeadlyAztec11 wrote:

It means you are using an uncessary amount of force that is uncalled for.

It's the equivalent to showing up to a backyard game of football wearing professional patting and with a strategy. It's unnecessary and classifies you as a try hard. Which is a misnomer since you should always attempt to win, but not everything you do should take much effort to give you an immediate advantage.

But I simply don't understand that....especially when applied to video games. Unless you and I agreed to something before our contest, duel, match I have not obligation to pull punches for you.

It's a Demon's/Dark Souls thing..... when I Gravelorded or was doing Forest Hunter invasions I was doing it to kill the host not show them a good time and in both cases if I wasn't pulling out all the stops I was going to get mobbed and killed in a 3v1 situation.

It is simply a common courtesy that you grow up with or you don't. Some people will never see the point of showing sportsmanship against a lower skilled opponent and that's alright I suppose.

It is just the way life goes.

"This is the Usumgal boy, the exalted dragon, wreathed in the fires of heaven. He is a true symbol of God's majesty."


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True Adamance Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 17499	Posted - 2015.03.06 02:34:00 - [1] - Quote I need someone desperately to define it for me....it just strikes me as odd that the label is so often used, not just in this game but in all kind of games, for those who play in groups or with specific kind of weapons/equipment/etc. "This is the Usumgal boy, the exalted dragon, wreathed in the fires of heaven. He is a true symbol of God's majesty."
True Adamance Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 17499	Posted - 2015.03.06 02:36:00 - [2] - Quote xavier zor wrote: A 'try-hard' is a label by somebody who is butthurt. further explanation I don't need to know who uses the label simply what they think it means. Possibly even why it might be used. "This is the Usumgal boy, the exalted dragon, wreathed in the fires of heaven. He is a true symbol of God's majesty."
True Adamance Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 17499	Posted - 2015.03.06 02:38:00 - [3] - Quote Patrick57 wrote: it means you try, hard. Why wouldn't you try? To make an attempt or effort to do something...... surely people don't play video games without a reason. "This is the Usumgal boy, the exalted dragon, wreathed in the fires of heaven. He is a true symbol of God's majesty."
True Adamance Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 17499	Posted - 2015.03.06 02:45:00 - [4] - Quote xavier zor wrote: True Adamance wrote: xavier zor wrote: A 'try-hard' is a label by somebody who is butthurt. further explanation I don't need to know who uses the label simply what they think it means. Possibly even why it might be used. i re-edited my post HEY I AM NOT A PUBSTOMPER! PC is just incredibly boring and doesn't align with my Timezone now that I am in full time work which is a shame.....even if it was operating out of a Minmatar region isn't exactly on PIE's to do list. "This is the Usumgal boy, the exalted dragon, wreathed in the fires of heaven. He is a true symbol of God's majesty."
True Adamance Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 17501	Posted - 2015.03.06 02:49:00 - [5] - Quote Dovallis Martan JenusKoll wrote: True Adamance wrote: xavier zor wrote: A 'try-hard' is a label by somebody who is butthurt. further explanation I don't need to know who uses the label simply what they think it means. Possibly even why it might be used. Well... it's more of a condition than an accusation. Like say in an MMO, you get a top tier item with like 400 damage... and the guy next to you goes through a 40 hour quest just to get a similar item of 401 damage, just to boast about it to you. etc. They do all they can to take all the tiny or absurd advantages they can get, just to keep their "status" as being higher than another. etc. A good example of a tryhard in Dust, is anyone who boasts about their KD/R and tries to do everything they can to avoid being killed ingame. That way they slowly and artificially inflate their KD/R rating just to point at it as some kind of validation, even if it took 400 games of 2 kills and no deaths just to attain. Okay and so the term is used by those who don't have that drive to preserve the status you were talking about. Which can basically be reduced to lacking a competitive edge that drives them to win? Could you not simply put their down to personal pride...... no one really like to lose but if you don't pursue winning with intent or effort how can you expect to? "This is the Usumgal boy, the exalted dragon, wreathed in the fires of heaven. He is a true symbol of God's majesty."
True Adamance Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 17501	Posted - 2015.03.06 03:00:00 - [6] - Quote Nocturnal Soul wrote: xavier zor wrote: A 'try-hard' is a label by somebody who is butthurt. further explanation: Pubstomper: Not a tryhard. They only know how to stomp noobs, and noobs only. They can't counter, only have 3-4 fits in their dropsuit fitting selection and never play/rarely play PC Tryhard: Usually an experienced PC player who stomps the shit out of pubs because they are so used to PC. They usually have 0 deaths, and WIN THE GAME "3-4 fits" some of us are just to ocd to deal with ccp's inability to make folders available to the players. I never understood the need to have more than half a dozen fittings.....maybe it's because I only used Amarr gear. "This is the Usumgal boy, the exalted dragon, wreathed in the fires of heaven. He is a true symbol of God's majesty."
True Adamance Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 17501	Posted - 2015.03.06 03:08:00 - [7] - Quote xavier zor wrote: True Adamance wrote: HEY I AM NOT A PUBSTOMPER! PC is just incredibly boring and doesn't align with my Timezone now that I am in full time work which is a shame.....even if it was operating out of a Minmatar region isn't exactly on PIE's to do list. basically if you have the gun-game of a god, and stomp in ADV gear you are good to go as a 'tryhard' be prepared to be labelled tryhard as well, depending on your corp They can't declare PCLAS try hards.......we roleplay.... and Amarr right?! "This is the Usumgal boy, the exalted dragon, wreathed in the fires of heaven. He is a true symbol of God's majesty."
True Adamance Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 17501	Posted - 2015.03.06 03:38:00 - [8] - Quote DeadlyAztec11 wrote: It means you are using an uncessary amount of force that is uncalled for. It's the equivalent to showing up to a backyard game of football wearing professional patting and with a strategy. It's unnecessary and classifies you as a try hard. Which is a misnomer since you should always attempt to win, but not everything you do should take much effort to give you an immediate advantage. But I simply don't understand that....especially when applied to video games. Unless you and I agreed to something before our contest, duel, match I have not obligation to pull punches for you. It's a Demon's/Dark Souls thing..... when I Gravelorded or was doing Forest Hunter invasions I was doing it to kill the host not show them a good time and in both cases if I wasn't pulling out all the stops I was going to get mobbed and killed in a 3v1 situation. "This is the Usumgal boy, the exalted dragon, wreathed in the fires of heaven. He is a true symbol of God's majesty."
True Adamance Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 17504	Posted - 2015.03.06 05:36:00 - [9] - Quote DeadlyAztec11 wrote: True Adamance wrote: DeadlyAztec11 wrote: It means you are using an uncessary amount of force that is uncalled for. It's the equivalent to showing up to a backyard game of football wearing professional patting and with a strategy. It's unnecessary and classifies you as a try hard. Which is a misnomer since you should always attempt to win, but not everything you do should take much effort to give you an immediate advantage. But I simply don't understand that....especially when applied to video games. Unless you and I agreed to something before our contest, duel, match I have not obligation to pull punches for you. It's a Demon's/Dark Souls thing..... when I Gravelorded or was doing Forest Hunter invasions I was doing it to kill the host not show them a good time and in both cases if I wasn't pulling out all the stops I was going to get mobbed and killed in a 3v1 situation. It is simply a common courtesy that you grow up with or you don't. Some people will never see the point of showing sportsmanship against a lower skilled opponent and that's alright I suppose. It is just the way life goes. To me sportsmanship is playing to the best of your ability when you can. Holding back even against a less skilled opponent is not doing them a courtesy. What is courteous in my mind is taking that win with dignity and respect to your opponent, not calling them out on being less skilled, and giving them encouragement to improve. I feel that people should learn to accept the adversity they face daily and seek to move past it. Doing so not only benefits them but those around them. "This is the Usumgal boy, the exalted dragon, wreathed in the fires of heaven. He is a true symbol of God's majesty."