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All Gucci
T.H.I.R.D R.O.C.K RISE of LEGION
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Posted - 2015.03.04 15:05:00 -
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Nerf scanners to the ground..... 1 RE can win you a fight but 1 scanner can win you a battle. at least when tossing a remote you put yourself in the middle of danger but with scanners.... you never run out, and you get wallhacks that everyone complained about when it was scout 514. Every piece of equipment has a downside to using it except for scanners... hives have a huge bubble , nanite injectors require you to be defenseless while you kneel down, cloaks have a weapon switch delay and passive scan reductions... you guys get my point, every equipment has a downside except for scanners.
I await a reply from a scanner faggg, lets see how you can possibly defend the easiest/lamest thing in the entire game to do...
I'll start you out " no it takes skill to...."
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robin williams' ghost
whisky tango foxtrot sir
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Posted - 2015.03.04 15:09:00 -
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It takes no skill to toss a remote from the roof or frisbee it into a doorway and get +50 +50 +50
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All Gucci
T.H.I.R.D R.O.C.K RISE of LEGION
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Posted - 2015.03.04 15:21:00 -
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robin williams' ghost wrote:It takes no skill to toss a remote from the roof or frisbee it into a doorway and get +50 +50 +50 I like how you avoided the real question lmfao but I'll refute this too
when you toss it from on a roof are you guaranteed a kill....no ,and if you toss it into a door way and they don't react to seeing a red dot at the doorway..... they deserved to die. Re's can be countered with fluxs, scanner and shooting them... How do you counter a perma scanning gal logi that just hides in a corner the whole match?
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Ripley Riley
Incorruptibles
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Posted - 2015.03.04 15:25:00 -
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All Gucci wrote:How do you counter a perma scanning gal logi that just hides in a corner the whole match? I usually just shoot them in the face until they die. Then, we they respawn, I do that again. Sometimes I make them die with a grenade, but not always.
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Crusty Clown
Calmacht
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Posted - 2015.03.04 15:46:00 -
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Does anybody remember a time in Dust when most of the players, not just the Gal logi, carried active scanners? When you could 360 spin an active scan. Back then you were permascanned every match. So dealing with the occasional Gal logi, in today's Dust, isn't a problem. REs however, in my opinion, should be required to be placed not thrown. |
ReGnYuM
State of Purgatory General Tso's Alliance
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Posted - 2015.03.04 15:46:00 -
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I would agree scanning is a big problem. Nonetheless, easy mode C4 freebies need to be toned down too |
Dreis Shadowweaver
T.H.I.R.D R.O.C.K RISE of LEGION
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Posted - 2015.03.04 16:17:00 -
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How is the 'big bubble' of hives a disadvantage? The bigger, the better, because your blues can be resupplied within a wider area.
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Dreis Shadowweaver
T.H.I.R.D R.O.C.K RISE of LEGION
2029
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Posted - 2015.03.04 16:18:00 -
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I'm not saying that scanners aren't OP, but RE's are definitely more OP.
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7th Son 7
BLITZKRIEG7
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Posted - 2015.03.04 16:30:00 -
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Hey, 30's the new 20 and RE's are the new grenade, what the problem is?
Always mystify, mislead and surprise the enemy if possible........--- Stonewall Jackson
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DDx77
The Exemplars RISE of LEGION
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Posted - 2015.03.04 16:31:00 -
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All Gucci wrote:Nerf scanners to the ground..... 1 RE can win you a fight but 1 scanner can win you a battle. at least when tossing a remote you put yourself in the middle of danger but with scanners.... you never run out, and you get wallhacks that everyone complained about when it was scout 514. Every piece of equipment has a downside to using it except for scanners... hives have a huge bubble , nanite injectors require you to be defenseless while you kneel down, cloaks have a weapon switch delay and passive scan reductions... you guys get my point, every equipment has a downside except for scanners. I await a reply from a scanner faggg, lets see how you can possibly defend the easiest/lamest thing in the entire game to do... I'll start you out " no it takes skill to...." ---
A solution to the problem and a little less rage might help
How about when you get scanned there is a ping on tacnet that shows where the scan came from?
I think scans, tacnet, and scanning got all screwed up three updates ago.
I might be completely wrong about my understanding of what they changed but it was supposed to be a radius type scan with strong precision in the first tacnet circle and weaker on the outer circles.
I know this isn't working because heavies and medium frames sneak up on me all the time
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Mortishai Belmont
G.L.O.R.Y General Tso's Alliance
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Posted - 2015.03.04 16:38:00 -
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I just have a problem with people chucking them like foot balls. Also the fact they can just toss down a hive and keep it up.
You should have to manually set up and active your remote, rather then fling it at people from 18m away.
If you set it up and lead me into a trap with it, that's fine. It, along with the shotgun, should not be "easy mode" for dust.
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Jakkal Shoobah
T.H.I.R.D R.O.C.K RISE of LEGION
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Posted - 2015.03.04 16:51:00 -
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To scan and stay alive and support your team requires patience and plannining. It may be boring and not exciting, but a good gal logo is super aware and spreads that awareness to his team via scans. This to to help prevent the loss of life . The entire point of the logistics role. You may not like the way some people play. But its still a semi rpg shooter . We are free to play however we like and of that involves perms scanning because half of the reds are damped scouts then so be it.
This. Is not a troll. I
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LUGMOS
Corrosive Synergy RISE of LEGION
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Posted - 2015.03.04 16:52:00 -
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Mortishai Belmont wrote:I just have a problem with people chucking them like foot balls. Also the fact they can just toss down a hive and keep it up.
You should have to manually set up and active your remote, rather then fling it at people from 18m away.
If you set it up and lead me into a trap with it, that's fine. It, along with the shotgun, should not be "easy mode" for dust. Shotgun isn't super easy mode like some say...
But I won't get anywhere trying to argue that.
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Ripley Riley
Incorruptibles
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Posted - 2015.03.04 16:57:00 -
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LUGMOS wrote:Shotgun isn't super easy mode like some say...
But I won't get anywhere trying to argue that. It very well may not be easy mode, but any weapon or playstyle that instajibs a player without allowing them to defend themselves is going to have a negative light cast on it. Cloaky SG Galscouts, Calmando Thale's snipers, RE's, etc.
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Green Living
Gallente Gay Swag Club
1373
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Posted - 2015.03.04 17:08:00 -
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What if they just turned them into Claymores like in MAG? |
JIMvc2
Consolidated Dust
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Posted - 2015.03.04 17:08:00 -
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Jakkal Shoobah wrote:To scan and stay alive and support your team requires patience and plannining. It may be boring and not exciting, but a good gal logo is super aware and spreads that awareness to his team via scans. This to to help prevent the loss of life . The entire point of the logistics role. You may not like the way some people play. But its still a semi rpg shooter . We are free to play however we like and of that involves perms scanning because half of the reds are damped scouts then so be it.
This. Is not a troll. I
If that is to be the case then scanners should only be fitted to the "Logistics" Only. Not assaults, scouts, commandos, ect...
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Jakkal Shoobah
T.H.I.R.D R.O.C.K RISE of LEGION
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Posted - 2015.03.04 17:13:00 -
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Lugmos. Hmm. Is the shotgun hard to use ? Its pretty user friendly as light weapons go. Can't blow up in your face or hand. Good reload and kill power in just one magazine.
Besides the optimal range being 5 metrs and the effective range being about 20ish meters, what makes the shotgun hard to use on the user end ? Is the difficulty part of it the whole positioning and timing of attacks ? Is it the super cqc circle strafe ?
I find that the shotty is the only weapon I can use on an assault that can keep me killing 10 plus people in the right map with little to no downtime.
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Jakkal Shoobah
T.H.I.R.D R.O.C.K RISE of LEGION
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Posted - 2015.03.04 17:16:00 -
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Ahh but him . Choice freedom. I can put a scanner on any suit, buit the only suit that MAXIMIZES the scanner is the gal logo. The same goes with any logo and their races equipment. Read the suit descriptions in game. It will open your eyes to the philosophy of the scanner playstyle and really any playstyle.
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JUDASisMYhomeboy
xCosmic Voidx
450
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Posted - 2015.03.04 17:21:00 -
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A scan scrambler or something would be nice. In the end both teams end up scrambled and then the fun begins. Personally i would rather have no scans than too much. Its garbage the way the game has devolved into run at the scan. Active scanners are not good for the game and i still believe they are one of the worst things to be introduced.
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Ku Shala
UNITED MERCINARY AND PILOTS ALLIANCE
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Posted - 2015.03.04 17:27:00 -
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it costs an equipment slot and works the way a grenade should I dont really understand everyones problem. they just need more sound maybe even the noise proxy mine make
the real crying should be how ineffective grenades are I mean they really are a group killing tool that doesnt work since hp has been buffed.
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Lord GRIEVIOUS
Tal-Romon Legion Amarr Empire
8
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Posted - 2015.03.04 17:37:00 -
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The freaking thing was already nerfed,the RE and other things. |
All Gucci
T.H.I.R.D R.O.C.K RISE of LEGION
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Posted - 2015.03.04 18:21:00 -
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Dreis Shadowweaver wrote:How is the 'big bubble' of hives a disadvantage? The bigger, the better, because your blues can be resupplied within a wider area. it gives your position away.....think dreis they gave it a distinct sound and a huge pulsing bubble lol....
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All Gucci
T.H.I.R.D R.O.C.K RISE of LEGION
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Posted - 2015.03.04 18:34:00 -
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Jakkal Shoobah wrote:To scan and stay alive and support your team requires patience and plannining. It may be boring and not exciting, but a good gal logo is super aware and spreads that awareness to his team via scans. This to to help prevent the loss of life . The entire point of the logistics role. You may not like the way some people play. But its still a semi rpg shooter . We are free to play however we like and of that involves perms scanning because half of the reds are damped scouts then so be it.
This. Is not a troll. I no one asked about its role, I said the scanner takes absolutely no skill.... their is no downside to using them unlike all the other equipment... if your defense is we cant have ammo if we use a scanner Ill just tell you that same downside applies to RE and Nanite injectors both of which have other risks involved. sorry to burst your bubble, scanners need to be toned down or an active profile dampener equipment needs to be introduced
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Leadfoot10
Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance
3409
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Posted - 2015.03.04 18:35:00 -
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The best counter to someone scanning you is to run scanners yourself.
Pretty simple, actually. |
Heimdallr69
Negative-Feedback.
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Posted - 2015.03.04 18:50:00 -
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Scanners need fixed but at least they're not op on a free suit and all you have to do is run jump toss 20m blow up and kill 6 guys with a free suit.. Scanners show where people are but they aren't insta win like re's.
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7th Son 7
BLITZKRIEG7
571
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Posted - 2015.03.04 18:58:00 -
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I think you meant Forum Cowboys in your headline, np I know what you meant
Always mystify, mislead and surprise the enemy if possible........--- Stonewall Jackson
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Ydubbs81 RND
Ahrendee Inc. Negative-Feedback
3796
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Posted - 2015.03.04 18:59:00 -
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Not the greatest argument thread for REs at all. Nerf scanners? Because scanners are the lamest thing in Dust to use?
Shield tanking is hard mode /period.
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