Id rather deal with 5 proto forges. Than 2 proto swarms, and thats saying something. (im a tanker)

Whoa whoa whoa, I'm all for a swarm nerf as much as the next guy, but a Forge buff probably isn't the answer... Maybe faster projectile speed(Less leading the enemy)
I'd rather have a PLC buff (maybe i teensy weensy bit for direct damage, and a bit more for splash damage)

if the plc can have splash the fg should defiantly have splash im tired of ccp listening to srubs and try hards instead of people that actually play the game

the plc and be carried by any suit and can target both vehicles and infantry and it also has splash damage so why cant the forge gun have splash too?

the reason they removed it is because too many people were complaining about it

a forge gun is easy enough to dodge if you dont stand still same with the plc the only thing with the plc is that people dont use it because they are scared of the way it works just because It has a bit of an arc people don't want to try it and the ones that do can easily adjust

now here comes the problem the plc has splash and can kill you indirectly but now the Fg has to hit you directly to kill you which is bs and it should go back to the way it was

The PLC deserves splash because of its arc AND its slow travel speed. The forge was *almost* hits can instant damage, splash made it borderline OP.

I've been playing AV a lot and the massive and literal Superiority of the Swarm Launcher vs the Forge Gun is painfully evident.

The Swarm Launcher is strictly better at the AV role than the forge gun for various reasons.

The Swarm launcher is a fire and forget weapon, Can be carried by any suit, Out damages the Forge Gun, Out Ranges the forgegun, lock on range is about 150m but the missiles themselves will follow 500m while the forge gun has a max range of 300m
Meanwhile the Forge gun gun MUST be carried by a heavy, has to be aimed, is weaker, and must be carried by a goddamn heavy.

Any suggestion for NERFING SWARM LAUNCHERS or BUFFING FORGE GUNS? Please nothing as simple as modifying the damage.

Swarms have a 175m LOCK ON RANGE, the missiles themselves will travel up to 500m.
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1FYU-aHBH9jmOdTd9LFJu6XlmvINRapJGw71OAE49Qec/edit#gid=0

Swarm launchers can also hit Tank weak points, not only that but a swarm launcher user has an easier job actually getting behind the tank, cause he is not in a heavy suit.

So you're half right on the first point and wrong on the second.

I never said shooting with an FG was hard, I said it takes Skill.

No, swarms can't hit vehicle 'sweet spots'.
I've never took critical dmg from swarms.

175m it's the swarms range.
What are you gonna do with 400m [not 500] if there's a DS 176m above you?
Tanks and DS/ADSs can quckly leave swarms lock on range zone.
FG will cover whole area within 300m.

In normal operating area (to 60m), PLC can deploy 'instant' dmg faster then forge. (travel time vs charge and travel time)
After 60m to 300m (without AA) - hiting fast moved few pixel's without splash is problematic.

Again, A GOOD AV, not you, waits until the target is closer so more damage can be put on target before it can disengage. Meaning the fact the Swarms OUTRANGE and TRACK their target matters. A Forgegun can be dodged and can miss fast movers.

Also, you are still wrong about Swarms being unable to hit tank weak points.

Just because you are a bad AV player don't mean everyone else is.

P.S. "It has never happaned to me so it can't happen" is a non-valid point.

No, your meaning of "good", is totally opposite. You rely on the OP AV weapons to kill things. NOSKILL

Don't forget that the Forge can kill enemy reds, as well as vehicles etc.

You think it's easier with a plasma cannon?

It's a fug ton easier to use a forge than a PLC. Sure it is better up close, because that's how it was supposed to be. There's also a great difference after the first shot in which does more damage, because you have to reload the PLC every shot while the forge doesn't. Imagine a PLC with a four round clip, no arc, and near instant travel. Yeah, forge gun with splash.