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Leadfoot10 wrote:

True Adamance wrote:

Leadfoot10 wrote:

Cal Assault have a terrible bonus but are great at distance camping. The problem is that distance camping is relatively useless.

Cal Scout is mediocre at best now, since range amps and EWAR got nerfed.

Cal Logi's hive bonus -- lol.

Never used Cal Heavy or Commando, so can't comment there, but I know I often struggle to kill the faster Cal Heavies with a lot of shield in my Amarr heavy.

On the bright side, the ARR is in the best place it has ever been. Personally, I think the ARR is the best rifle in the game right now -- but I'm admittedly biased, being a long time user of this gun who is finally feeling effective with it.

Hold up I'm sorry you get

+15% resistance to Plasma Weapons
+10% resistance to Laser Weapons
+ 25% reduction to Splash Damage
+20 resistance to Explsoive Damage
+10 Resistance to Projectile Damage
and
25% reduction to Heavy Weapons values and you are telling me its bonuses are bad? The Cal Sent for its lower raw HP values has resistances against EVERTHING on its shields.

Are you sure you're reading my post correctly?

Who said the Cal Sentinel's bonus is bad?

Not me. To the contrary, I struggle to kill them in my Amarr -- thus my comments.

Color me confused.

"This is the Usumgal boy, the exalted dragon, wreathed in the fires of heaven. He is a true symbol of God's majesty."

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Devadander Woodgrain Atari 254	Posted - 2015.03.01 18:53:00 - [1] - Quote And no, not the college. Been proto cal assault for ever. Through the good and the bad. Finally in a decent place, however, say a logi and I run into any other assault suit with a logi. Guess who wins? Not the guy with 709 shields I can tell you that, it's the guy with 400 armor. If I have a smart logi, he can pull his weapon and we can sometimes win that way. Fun. I can still reload faster than youuuuuu. Cal-sent Outclassed by every other sentinel. Cal-logi Outshined by every other logi. (bricking it to 400/700 with a proto weapon and no equip is beyond "fight your own war") Cal-scout Outninja'd by the other two (sorry amarr brothers, your scout is pointless-mode too) Cal-mando WTF is the point of this suit!? Serious question. I derailed my own thread when I got to this suit. Anyone? I can't even remember where I was going with this.... Cal-mando is that bad. Sniper and rail rifle bonus... so for my no patience self its the choice of RR or RR.... ok. slaps dual ARR I have every module to V and still can't make a decent suit out of it. At this point I'm open to suggestions for cal-sent fits (that don't employ a sniper) Halp "Lets group up and push an objective" ~ No blueberry ever 07-28-12 ~Deal with it~
Nocturnal Soul 5586	Posted - 2015.03.01 18:55:00 - [2] - Quote What do you mean sorry we've known this since day one #fixfw #lolamarrlightassault (Gê¬n+Ç-´)GèâGöüGÿån+ƒ.pâ+n+ín+ƒ. LASERS BTCH!!!!!! The Incursions are back... and they're golden baby!
Green Living Gallente Gay Swag Club 1371	Posted - 2015.03.01 18:57:00 - [3] - Quote I'm not sure if I have ever seen a CalMando on the battlefield in the past few months.
7th Son 7 BLITZKRIEG7 561	Posted - 2015.03.01 18:58:00 - [4] - Quote Devadander wrote: And no, not the college. Been proto cal assault for ever. Through the good and the bad. Finally in a decent place, however, say a logi and I run into any other assault suit with a logi. Guess who wins? Not the guy with 709 shields I can tell you that, it's the guy with 400 armor. If I have a smart logi, he can pull his weapon and we can sometimes win that way. Fun. I can still reload faster than youuuuuu. Cal-sent Outclassed by every other sentinel. Cal-logi Outshined by every other logi. (bricking it to 400/700 with a proto weapon and no equip is beyond "fight your own war") Cal-scout Outninja'd by the other two (sorry amarr brothers, your scout is pointless-mode too) Cal-mando WTF is the point of this suit!? Serious question. I derailed my own thread when I got to this suit. Anyone? I can't even remember where I was going with this.... Cal-mando is that bad. Sniper and rail rifle bonus... so for my no patience self its the choice of RR or RR.... ok. slaps dual ARR I have every module to V and still can't make a decent suit out of it. At this point I'm open to suggestions for cal-sent fits (that don't employ a sniper) Halp Yeah it's tough, just try to out distance your enemies with Caldari suits Always mystify, mislead and surprise the enemy if possible........--- Stonewall Jackson
Louis Domi Knights Of Ender RISE of LEGION 883	Posted - 2015.03.01 19:05:00 - [5] - Quote Green Living wrote: I'm not sure if I have ever seen a CalMando on the battlefield in the past few months. I saw 2 today...
Devadander Woodgrain Atari 254	Posted - 2015.03.01 19:06:00 - [6] - Quote At this point I just want a viable cal-mando fit. I can make-do with the other fits, but the mando just sucks. I've tried everything from trip dmg mods to kincats. Brick fits and quick regen. Nothing works in a 1v1 vs any other suit. My friend has pro min-mando and has a blast with MD and CR, I roll my cal tandem with him and it just fails to keep up. "Lets group up and push an objective" ~ No blueberry ever 07-28-12 ~Deal with it~
JIMvc2 Consolidated Dust 745	Posted - 2015.03.01 19:45:00 - [7] - Quote Oh I'm sorry but you can't say **** against the Amarr scout. Have you tried it ? NO so Shut up. My Amarr has 3 Complex Damps = >:D your scanners are useless. MAG Raven vet 7 times. Favorite weapon F90 and Highest Kills 78 and 23 deaths.
Nirwanda Vaughns 1483	Posted - 2015.03.01 19:47:00 - [8] - Quote Min assault would have difficulty vs caldari if you've shield tanked it properly. even with proto skills the -20% damage really stings. many peopel forget that with the right lo slot layout you can get a huge tank but caldari are more tailored for longer range shoot/cover playstyle that full front. leave that to the heavies also if you're running a logi you can get a pretty decent armour tank on a cal assault which'd benefit the logi more Never argue with an idiot. they bring you down to their level and beat you through experience proud C-II bpo owner
TooMany Names AlreadyTaken Going for the gold 833	Posted - 2015.03.01 19:50:00 - [9] - Quote Shield regulators and shield rechargers are your best friends. Found my favorite DJ - ATB
True Adamance Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 17380	Posted - 2015.03.01 20:23:00 - [10] - Quote Caldari are certainly not outclasses in their roles of long ranged combat....certainly worth noting that there is nothing more terrifying than a Calsent with an Ishukone Forgegun. You have to accept that while you might like the Caldari Sentinel...... it specific battlefield role might not be what you want it to be. I just made a nasty fit with 50 rep/sec, 2.5 seconds regen delay, and 0.66 seconds depleted regen..... or the other way around assuming a Protofits error. Either way that's and AV monster from range with 1200 eHP and pretty scary regen values. Certainly don't think another Sent can achieve that and have Blaster, Explosive, and to a lesser extent Laser resistances all in one lovely package. "This is the Usumgal boy, the exalted dragon, wreathed in the fires of heaven. He is a true symbol of God's majesty."

Nocturnal Soul 5586	Posted - 2015.03.01 20:40:00 - [11] - Quote JIMvc2 wrote: Oh I'm sorry but you can't say **** against the Amarr scout. Have you tried it ? NO so Shut up. My Amarr has 3 Complex Damps = >:D your scanners are useless. And so are you, ya wanna be gallente scout. Now sit down for a rehabilitation program because your obviously delusional. (Gê¬n+Ç-´)GèâGöüGÿån+ƒ.pâ+n+ín+ƒ. LASERS BTCH!!!!!! The Incursions are back... and they're golden baby!
JIMvc2 Consolidated Dust 745	Posted - 2015.03.01 20:42:00 - [12] - Quote Nocturnal Soul wrote: JIMvc2 wrote: Oh I'm sorry but you can't say **** against the Amarr scout. Have you tried it ? NO so Shut up. My Amarr has 3 Complex Damps = >:D your scanners are useless. And so are you, ya wanna be gallente scout. Now sit down for a rehabilitation program because your obviously delusional. I don't run Gallente scouts or in other words that FOTM scout NO. Please enlighten me with your words of ugly... jk jk lol. (Insert Sarcasm here) hahaha :p MAG Raven vet 7 times. Favorite weapon F90 and Highest Kills 78 and 23 deaths.
abdullah muzaffar G0DS AM0NG MEN General Tso's Alliance 437	Posted - 2015.03.01 20:47:00 - [13] - Quote Calsent and calscout 2nd best. Nothing can be worse than the minsent
Nocturnal Soul 5586	Posted - 2015.03.01 20:49:00 - [14] - Quote JIMvc2 wrote: Nocturnal Soul wrote: JIMvc2 wrote: Oh I'm sorry but you can't say **** against the Amarr scout. Have you tried it ? NO so Shut up. My Amarr has 3 Complex Damps = >:D your scanners are useless. And so are you, ya wanna be gallente scout. Now sit down for a rehabilitation program because your obviously delusional. I don't run Gallente scouts or in other words that FOTM scout NO. Please enlighten me with your words of ugly... jk jk lol. (Insert Sarcasm here) hahaha :p With that fit you have one low slot left, you also run slower then a med frame. Your role on the battle field is also done better by a med frame that sacrifice zero module slots while you on the hand might as well call yourself a M-1/Series scout because that's how much HP you'll have. Also you know that stamina bonus you have...pointless. Minmatar scout seriously does it better at lvl one. Being slow coupled with a #2 stamina regain=you still being out done in your specialty. At the end out the day the Ak.0 scout is just a sub par gal logistics/assault with just abysmal scouting characteristics. (Gê¬n+Ç-´)GèâGöüGÿån+ƒ.pâ+n+ín+ƒ. LASERS BTCH!!!!!! The Incursions are back... and they're golden baby!
Leadfoot10 Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance 3360	Posted - 2015.03.01 20:55:00 - [15] - Quote Cal Assault are great at distance camping. The problem is that distance camping is relatively useless. On the bright side, the ARR is in the best place it has ever been. I think the ARR is the best rifle in the game -- but I'm admittedly biased, being a long time user of this gun.
sir RAVEN WING Horizons' Edge VP Gaming Alliance 3086	Posted - 2015.03.01 21:00:00 - [16] - Quote Calsent is one of the best HMG heavies! When 1v1 HMG duels anyway. Why? Calsent is shield based which means the HMG does less damage to it. Minsents though... *Fuck the silver, let's go for the gold* . *I am what haunts your dreams at night.*
True Adamance Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 17381	Posted - 2015.03.01 21:04:00 - [17] - Quote Leadfoot10 wrote: Cal Assault have a terrible bonus but are great at distance camping. The problem is that distance camping is relatively useless. Cal Scout is mediocre at best now, since range amps and EWAR got nerfed. Cal Logi's hive bonus -- lol. Never used Cal Heavy or Commando, so can't comment there, but I know I often struggle to kill the faster Cal Heavies with a lot of shield in my Amarr heavy. On the bright side, the ARR is in the best place it has ever been. Personally, I think the ARR is the best rifle in the game right now -- but I'm admittedly biased, being a long time user of this gun who is finally feeling effective with it. Hold up I'm sorry you get +15% resistance to Plasma Weapons +10% resistance to Laser Weapons + 25% reduction to Splash Damage +20 resistance to Explsoive Damage +10 Resistance to Projectile Damage and 25% reduction to Heavy Weapons values and you are telling me its bonuses are bad? The Cal Sent for its lower raw HP values has resistances against EVERTHING on its shields. "This is the Usumgal boy, the exalted dragon, wreathed in the fires of heaven. He is a true symbol of God's majesty."
DeadlyAztec11 Ostrakon Agency 7725	Posted - 2015.03.01 21:05:00 - [18] - Quote Here's the deal, the Caldari were meant to fight at range and the Gallente at CQC. Which is why using the Caldari at CQC or the Gallente at range tends to turn out rather mediocre. Put your flags up in the sky. And wave them side to side. Show the world where you're from. Show the world we are one.
Nocturnal Soul 5586	Posted - 2015.03.01 21:07:00 - [19] - Quote DeadlyAztec11 wrote: Here's the deal, the Caldari were meant to fight at range and the Gallente at CQC. Which is why using the Caldari at CQC or the Gallente at range tends to turn out rather mediocre. Lol I've definitely been wreaked by a few Gk.0 wielding RR's (Gê¬n+Ç-´)GèâGöüGÿån+ƒ.pâ+n+ín+ƒ. LASERS BTCH!!!!!! The Incursions are back... and they're golden baby!
Leadfoot10 Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance 3361	Posted - 2015.03.01 21:08:00 - [20] - Quote True Adamance wrote: Leadfoot10 wrote: Cal Assault have a terrible bonus but are great at distance camping. The problem is that distance camping is relatively useless. Cal Scout is mediocre at best now, since range amps and EWAR got nerfed. Cal Logi's hive bonus -- lol. Never used Cal Heavy or Commando, so can't comment there, but I know I often struggle to kill the faster Cal Heavies with a lot of shield in my Amarr heavy. On the bright side, the ARR is in the best place it has ever been. Personally, I think the ARR is the best rifle in the game right now -- but I'm admittedly biased, being a long time user of this gun who is finally feeling effective with it. Hold up I'm sorry you get +15% resistance to Plasma Weapons +10% resistance to Laser Weapons + 25% reduction to Splash Damage +20 resistance to Explsoive Damage +10 Resistance to Projectile Damage and 25% reduction to Heavy Weapons values and you are telling me its bonuses are bad? The Cal Sent for its lower raw HP values has resistances against EVERTHING on its shields. Are you sure you're reading my post correctly? Who said the Cal Sentinel's bonus is bad? Not me. To the contrary, I struggle to kill them in my Amarr -- thus my comments. Color me confused.

True Adamance Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 17381	Posted - 2015.03.01 21:08:00 - [21] - Quote Leadfoot10 wrote: True Adamance wrote: Leadfoot10 wrote: Cal Assault have a terrible bonus but are great at distance camping. The problem is that distance camping is relatively useless. Cal Scout is mediocre at best now, since range amps and EWAR got nerfed. Cal Logi's hive bonus -- lol. Never used Cal Heavy or Commando, so can't comment there, but I know I often struggle to kill the faster Cal Heavies with a lot of shield in my Amarr heavy. On the bright side, the ARR is in the best place it has ever been. Personally, I think the ARR is the best rifle in the game right now -- but I'm admittedly biased, being a long time user of this gun who is finally feeling effective with it. Hold up I'm sorry you get +15% resistance to Plasma Weapons +10% resistance to Laser Weapons + 25% reduction to Splash Damage +20 resistance to Explsoive Damage +10 Resistance to Projectile Damage and 25% reduction to Heavy Weapons values and you are telling me its bonuses are bad? The Cal Sent for its lower raw HP values has resistances against EVERTHING on its shields. Are you sure you're reading my post correctly? Who said the Cal Sentinel's bonus is bad? Not me. To the contrary, I struggle to kill them in my Amarr -- thus my comments. Color me confused. Edited the above post because of a miss read. My apologies. "This is the Usumgal boy, the exalted dragon, wreathed in the fires of heaven. He is a true symbol of God's majesty."
Leadfoot10 Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance 3361	Posted - 2015.03.01 21:11:00 - [22] - Quote No worries!
4lbert Wesker King and Queens 152	Posted - 2015.03.01 21:13:00 - [23] - Quote Green Living wrote: I'm not sure if I have ever seen a CalMando on the battlefield in the past few months. I use Calmando and I do it pretty well,you need to be very patiant and need good spots.Calmando is not for frontal assault. Public skirmish = camping games
Operative 1174 Uuali Y.A.M.A.H 468	Posted - 2015.03.01 21:22:00 - [24] - Quote The redline exist for one reasonGÇª for caldari to actually function according to racial combat design developed for EVE. Otherwise, you just get beelined or ninjaed. In other words, the Caldari racial combat philosophy does not translate into the present DUST game mechanics of arena rumble. If this were a geound combat oriented game with battle lines and careful tactical movement and advancement then it could work. This is a CQ runny, jumpy, in your face console game though and as such fails when EVE concepts are added. LEGION? Death is a serious business. So is running a shoddy, half-baked game company.
maluble Art.of.Death VP Gaming Alliance 214	Posted - 2015.03.01 21:22:00 - [25] - Quote 4lbert Wesker wrote: Green Living wrote: I'm not sure if I have ever seen a CalMando on the battlefield in the past few months. I use Calmando and I do it pretty well,you need to be very patiant and need good spots.Calmando is not for frontal assault. As a caldari sentinel user,I have no problems with killing Amarr,Gallente or Minmatar sentinels(minmatar sentinels are the worst sentinels).I am not afraid of grenades and Mass drivers.I can run through rain of mass drivers and I will beat the **** out of anyone who is mocking me with mass drivers. 1 flux nade and goodbye all your tank, volley of CR fire and your dead.
4lbert Wesker King and Queens 152	Posted - 2015.03.01 21:25:00 - [26] - Quote maluble wrote: 4lbert Wesker wrote: Green Living wrote: I'm not sure if I have ever seen a CalMando on the battlefield in the past few months. I use Calmando and I do it pretty well,you need to be very patiant and need good spots.Calmando is not for frontal assault. As a caldari sentinel user,I have no problems with killing Amarr,Gallente or Minmatar sentinels(minmatar sentinels are the worst sentinels).I am not afraid of grenades and Mass drivers.I can run through rain of mass drivers and I will beat the **** out of anyone who is mocking me with mass drivers. 1 flux nade and goodbye all your tank, volley of CR fire and your dead. There are very few players that have flux(I don't remmember when my shield was destroyed with flux),Not sure if you wanted to say vollley os scramble rifle?Because,there are few people that still use that... Public skirmish = camping games
Fizzer XCIV Tal-Romon Legion Amarr Empire 2453	Posted - 2015.03.01 21:28:00 - [27] - Quote Green Living wrote: I'm not sure if I have ever seen a CalMando on the battlefield in the past few months. They're all sniping. Home at Last <3
True Adamance Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 17381	Posted - 2015.03.01 21:31:00 - [28] - Quote maluble wrote: 4lbert Wesker wrote: Green Living wrote: I'm not sure if I have ever seen a CalMando on the battlefield in the past few months. I use Calmando and I do it pretty well,you need to be very patiant and need good spots.Calmando is not for frontal assault. As a caldari sentinel user,I have no problems with killing Amarr,Gallente or Minmatar sentinels(minmatar sentinels are the worst sentinels).I am not afraid of grenades and Mass drivers.I can run through rain of mass drivers and I will beat the **** out of anyone who is mocking me with mass drivers. 1 flux nade and goodbye all your tank, volley of CR fire and your dead. And on the fit I would use thats 0.66 seconds and I'm regenerating 50 HP a second and hopefully pulling back as fast as possible HMG blazing if you stick your head out. However when Fluxes are you biggest concern, knowing fully well your 700-800 have between a 10-20% resistance to any and all damage types you are still looking pretty sharp. "This is the Usumgal boy, the exalted dragon, wreathed in the fires of heaven. He is a true symbol of God's majesty."
P14GU3 UNIVERSAL C.A.R.N.A.G.E 1261	Posted - 2015.03.01 21:34:00 - [29] - Quote I regularly pull 3-4 k/d matches with my calmando alt. RR+ARR covers all ranges except point blank, and even then you can get lucky. Calsault is in a fairly good place as well. The Calsent is, and was always the best forger suit. The cal scout and logi need some love though. I seriously laugh everytime I see these cal threads. My alt is nothing but caldari and I seem to do better on him than my main at times, and he has about 50m less SP. Quit running them like brawlers and you shouldn't have a problem with anything but good ScR users.. 'Sault AK.0 - Logi AK.0 - Logi GK.0 - Scout GK.0 - 'Mando MK.0 - Masshole in every sense of the word.
Sgt Kirk Fatal Absolution Negative-Feedback 9711	Posted - 2015.03.01 22:19:00 - [30] - Quote Exactly what are you trying to do with the Commando. Most guys have an issue with the commando in general. Most people try to run it like an assault no, you can't do this. Others run it like a sentinel wanna be but you can't do either one of them. I have a minmatar alt, Gallente main and a Caldari alt. I don't stack armor or shields on any of them except for one ferroplate on Minmatar. I stick with regen and movement to rely on with the versatility of the commando to back up. Caldari Commando is my versatile sniper platform. Tactical sniper rifle, coupled with a rail rifle. This commando certainly stays towards the back end of the frontlines. Minmatar commando had combat rifle coupled with a mass driver. We all know the tactic, stay mid range and rain hell with that mass driver. Gallente Commando, or at least mine is about to the assault a commando can get. At prototype I run 1 kin cat, 1 Complex repair, 1 enhanced repair. An AR and a Plasma cannon. This suit is a mid-close range brawler only because of the regen and the damage but at most times it's best to stay mid range and not charge enemies. *As long as 4/5 (80%) of infantry AV weapons are Anti Armor based you're never going to achieve vehicle balance CCP*



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