DUST Search - Slayer tips..?

Reign Omega wrote:

Good day! I'm just here to chew the fat since I can only Dust once or twice a week right now. I will give you some background and let you all take shots from there. This is my main char and his stats are as follows

43mil sp
All core skills maxed, including scanning passives
All modules maxed with the exception of shields (all 3), stamina and myofib
All Gal suits proto plus min assault 4
Ar, Cr, Md, Scr, Hmg, Forge, Swarms, Smg, Scp, and Iop 5 with most side skills to 3 at least
No weapons under 3
No vehicle skills
All equip at 3 or 4 save for the cloak, and Scanners 5

I have maintained a 1.8 KDR since...as far back as I can remember, but can't quite break into full fledged slayer territory, what am I missing? Is my logi brain holding me back? Helping/Saving teammates, offering cover fire, and even sponging some hits for a low hp teammate are always on my mind. How do real killers roll? What is the though process, movement game, positional thinking?

I'm seriously thinking of letting my KD suffer and practicing shooting and only shooting for a few weeks.

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Reign Omega T.H.I.R.D R.O.C.K RISE of LEGION 1286	Posted - 2015.03.01 07:30:00 - [1] - Quote Good day! I'm just here to chew the fat since I can only Dust once or twice a week right now. I will give you some background and let you all take shots from there. This is my main char and his stats are as follows 43mil sp All core skills maxed, including scanning passives All modules maxed with the exception of shields (all 3), stamina and myofib All Gal suits proto plus min assault 4 Ar, Cr, Md, Scr, Hmg, Forge, Swarms, Smg, Scp, and Iop 5 with most side skills to 3 at least No weapons under 3 No vehicle skills All equip at 3 or 4 save for the cloak, and Scanners 5 I have maintained a 1.8 KDR since...as far back as I can remember, but can't quite break into full fledged slayer territory, what am I missing? Is my logi brain holding me back? Helping/Saving teammates, offering cover fire, and even sponging some hits for a low hp teammate are always on my mind. How do real killers roll? What is the though process, movement game, positional thinking? I'm seriously thinking of letting my KD suffer and practicing shooting and only shooting for a few weeks. Mark a$$ tricks, and bags of dicks....
demonkiller 12 Negative-Feedback. Negative-Feedback 616	Posted - 2015.03.01 07:41:00 - [2] - Quote Complex precision enhancer is op on any assault suit. Am going to try profile dampners when i cap out. But being able to see everyone and them not seeing you is op. Maybe even a rangenamp is good too
devjo88 ScReWeD uP InC Smart Deploy 3	Posted - 2015.03.01 07:43:00 - [3] - Quote good tip is not to die Former director of Laughing Coffin Proud member of ScReWeD uP iNc
pegasis prime BIG BAD W0LVES 2015	Posted - 2015.03.01 07:46:00 - [4] - Quote Spacial awareness, good flanking manures, fast reflexes and knowing when not to engage are the key stones to dust slaying. Proud Caldari purist . Rank 10 colonel omiwarrior. I fought and bled for the State on Caldari prime.
demonkiller 12 Negative-Feedback. Negative-Feedback 616	Posted - 2015.03.01 07:56:00 - [5] - Quote Nvm range extender. Complex 15%???? What the ****
THUNDERGROOVE Fatal Absolution Negative-Feedback 1548	Posted - 2015.03.01 08:51:00 - [6] - Quote tbh I just shoot **** and +50. If you want to learn to be a good slayer, stay out of ambush and play Skirm/Dom. Never stop pushing objectives and it'll eventually come. Most of the people who play Ambush just sit on top of their five friends, as a result they rarely die. However these players can't win a 1v1 to save their ass. Our lives are nothing but a means to an end. AIV member. 21 day EVE trial.
Mortishai Belmont G.L.O.R.Y General Tso's Alliance 545	Posted - 2015.03.01 08:54:00 - [7] - Quote Hire a proto logi to be your friend and get in that Gk.0 with an HMG Make sure it's a good Min logi, with some precision enhancers stacked and a republic boundless rep tool so you can wade out into the storm of bullets 30 meters deep ;D G.L.O.R.Y Soldier, I'm that Amarr heavy you warn your team about <3 -Heavy/Logi/Assault/Scout-
Proto Annihilator 16 Vandals 481	Posted - 2015.03.01 09:00:00 - [8] - Quote Just play it cool. If you are trying to improve your k/d having less deaths is the key. 7/0 is better than 20/6. At 100K kills it takes a few days to go up 0.01. It only takes a few poor choices to drop that 0.01.
Killer's Coys Prima Gallicus 251	Posted - 2015.03.01 09:38:00 - [9] - Quote demonkiller 12 wrote: Complex precision enhancer is op on any assault suit. Am going to try profile dampners when i cap out. But being able to see everyone and them not seeing you is op. Maybe even a rangenamp is good too I've tested both. For me to put a profile dampener on assault is just f****** good 30dB with a complex (+ passive) A precision enhancer is good too, mainly for the Amarr and the Gallente, because put only damager is useless Ho and what have you written ? rangenamp ? Does this mod still exist ? CCP has nerfed this mod too much.... It's useless now I'm sorry for my bad English writting and comprehension.
Sequal's Back Dead Man's Game RUST415 323	Posted - 2015.03.01 11:28:00 - [10] - Quote pegasis prime wrote: Spacial awareness, good flanking manures, fast reflexes and knowing when not to engage are the key stones to dust slaying. This pretty much ^^ Also, use blueberries as a distraction for your opponents, they are use to die anyway. Rise? That's what they used to call me. Sequal Rise. That was my name. Now I come Back to you, at the turn of the tide.

Mejt0 Dead Man's Game RUST415 913	Posted - 2015.03.01 11:50:00 - [11] - Quote You have to be fast, react fast, make decissions fast but all this with mind. Don't chase reds for kills if you don't know what's over there [nobody scaned that place]. Play aggressively. Learn how to throw cooked grenades. Strafe in cqc. Your aim have to be good at least. Flank as much as possible. In conclusion. If you want to be a slayer, a good one then practise on your own. Play solo, test your fits, adapt to whole slayer thing. Running with rep logis and other stompers will make you bad in 1v1, 1v2, 1v3 situations. So go make few fits and play. Push and flank with mind. Tactic etc will come later. Ps. Kd/r in Dust doesn't mean anything. Your score during battle is what matters. Also remember that going 20/5 is better than 10/0. Don't camp, just go there and kill as many as you can. Ofc dying too many times is bad but if you will make it up with kills then you can die more. Loyal to State https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=2629870#post2629870 - Mejto's trade/sale list
CUSE TOWN333 KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION 2213	Posted - 2015.03.01 12:52:00 - [12] - Quote all ways give yourself the tactical advantage over your enemy. the key is to see them before they see you by predicting where the enemy is going to move to. before you engage your enemy make sure you have cover. a good slayer all ways flanks while the bluedots and reddots are engageing head up. once your gun game gets to the point where you can win all your 1v1 engagements then start to fit your dropsuit for high regen to move to the next engagement faster with full HP. and become a master of the headshot to down a opponent fast. get the most damage out of your weapon as possible by completely maxing it out. don't stack heavy armor plates even on a heavy suit to maintain good strafeing abilities. gunfights in dust are more about dodging enemy fire then any other FPS game so learn to circle strafe and random jump reload. KEQ diplomat
Bremen van Equis BASTARDS OF BEDLAM 198	Posted - 2015.03.01 12:55:00 - [13] - Quote Stop being a Grover Gill and start being a Scott Farkus. Buckle up, boysGÇªthis ramp leads to space. -Axe Cop
Vrain Matari Mikramurka Shock Troop Minmatar Republic 2518	Posted - 2015.03.01 16:05:00 - [14] - Quote THUNDERGROOVE wrote: tbh I just shoot **** and +50. If you want to learn to be a good slayer, stay out of ambush and play Skirm/Dom. Never stop pushing objectives and it'll eventually come. Most of the people who play Ambush just sit on top of their five friends, as a result they rarely die. However these players can't win a 1v1 to save their ass. Have to second this - skirmish/pushing objectives is a great general training program for DUST. It exposes you to most of the systems and a lot of the tricks peeps use. There's nothing like trying to single-handed take an objective from a squad to make you think about how you're doing things. Trying(unsuccessfully, in my case) to carry a weak team against competent squads is brutal training but great experience. If you stick with STD weapons whenever possible it teaches you to be quick on the draw and forces accuracy/positional awareness. Trying to play superman will kick your KDR in the nuts, especially if you typically run solo, but as you go you should see your new skills reflected in a gradually rising win/loss ratio(would be great if we had a week-by-week historical graph of this in our character sheets). Caveat emptor, though: i'm a long way from being a real slayer but i can say that the skim/win method has improved my game a lot. The next step in training oneself up would be: don't die. It sounds simple and facetious but aiming for zero deaths also has a lot to teach a merc. Can't vouch as much for this as it's really stage two in my personal training plan. I suppose stage three would be 'don't die in STD gear'. PSN: RationalSpark
diablo gamekeeper T.H.I.R.D R.O.C.K RISE of LEGION 35	Posted - 2015.03.01 16:17:00 - [15] - Quote Min assault with CR or AR
Ghost Kaisar Fatal Absolution Negative-Feedback 10064	Posted - 2015.03.01 16:34:00 - [16] - Quote Reign Omega wrote: Good day! I'm just here to chew the fat since I can only Dust once or twice a week right now. I will give you some background and let you all take shots from there. This is my main char and his stats are as follows 43mil sp All core skills maxed, including scanning passives All modules maxed with the exception of shields (all 3), stamina and myofib All Gal suits proto plus min assault 4 Ar, Cr, Md, Scr, Hmg, Forge, Swarms, Smg, Scp, and Iop 5 with most side skills to 3 at least No weapons under 3 No vehicle skills All equip at 3 or 4 save for the cloak, and Scanners 5 I have maintained a 1.8 KDR since...as far back as I can remember, but can't quite break into full fledged slayer territory, what am I missing? Is my logi brain holding me back? Helping/Saving teammates, offering cover fire, and even sponging some hits for a low hp teammate are always on my mind. How do real killers roll? What is the though process, movement game, positional thinking? I'm seriously thinking of letting my KD suffer and practicing shooting and only shooting for a few weeks. Slaying ability is MOSTLY independent of SP. Ignore suits and Sp for this post. Those come AFTER learning whats commonly called "Gungame" I've always wanted to make a Dust514 video for whats below, but I have no recording software. Instead, I'm going to type up a large post to GD explaining how to gungame. I'll post a link here later. Born Deteis Caldari. Rejected by my Kinsman. Found a new family in the Vherokior Tribe. Nobody messes with my family
Meisterjager Jagermeister 818	Posted - 2015.03.01 17:21:00 - [17] - Quote Ghost Kaisar wrote: I'm going to type up a large post to GD explaining how to gungame. I'll post a link here later. Bless you, kind sir! AKA - StarVenger- Horizons' Edge
Leadfoot10 Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance 3353	Posted - 2015.03.01 18:17:00 - [18] - Quote Run solo and focus on 1:1 killing and 1:2 killing. Your gun game is likely lacking.
Dreis Shadowweaver T.H.I.R.D R.O.C.K RISE of LEGION 2018	Posted - 2015.03.01 18:24:00 - [19] - Quote The best way to improve K/D is to reduce your deaths. Make sure that you only engage when you are sure you will win. Be completely selfish and let blues die before you. Thirdly, completely flip out after every death. Creator of the 'Nova Knifers United' channel Caldari blood, Minmatar heart <3 They call me Dr. Dre
Ghost Kaisar Fatal Absolution Negative-Feedback 10075	Posted - 2015.03.01 18:35:00 - [20] - Quote IT IS DONE OP read this thread. Should help you immensely. Born Deteis Caldari. Rejected by my Kinsman. Found a new family in the Vherokior Tribe. Nobody messes with my family

Louis Domi Knights Of Ender RISE of LEGION 884	Posted - 2015.03.01 18:50:00 - [21] - Quote demonkiller 12 wrote: Complex precision enhancer is op on any assault suit. Am going to try profile dampners when i cap out. But being able to see everyone and them not seeing you is op. Maybe even a rangenamp is good too Range amp is crap now, they nerfed it to 25%... assualt range is like what 10m? Thats an extra 2.5m per amp... damn why they did that though? Also to OP. use OP weapons with OP suits. Have a logi with you at all times, and tank the **** out of your suit... Thats what i see everyone doing now a days
axis alpha Ahrendee Inc. Negative-Feedback 655	Posted - 2015.03.01 19:23:00 - [22] - Quote Asses what you are doing, just think. A good slayer is slow but smart and efficient. Its about how many kills but at the same time its about not dying. I cut you up so bad.... You gonna wish I no cut you up so bad.
Bremen van Equis BASTARDS OF BEDLAM 206	Posted - 2015.03.02 02:24:00 - [23] - Quote axis alpha wrote: Asses what you are doing, just think. A good slayer is slow but smart and efficient. Its about how many kills but at the same time its about not dying. Heh heh... You said asses. Heh heh... Buckle up, boysGÇªthis ramp leads to space. -Axe Cop
demonkiller 12 Negative-Feedback. Negative-Feedback 618	Posted - 2015.03.02 03:39:00 - [24] - Quote Mortishai Belmont wrote: Hire a proto logi to be your friend and get in that Gk.0 with an HMG Make sure it's a good Min logi, with some precision enhancers stacked and a republic boundless rep tool so you can wade out into the storm of bullets 30 meters deep ;D Slayers are assaults, heavies are useless
LUGMOS Corrosive Synergy RISE of LEGION 2429	Posted - 2015.03.02 03:42:00 - [25] - Quote demonkiller 12 wrote: heavies are useless You just won the Forums Official QuafeGäó Advocate Anti-FoTM Prof. V Forum Scavenger Prof. V
demonkiller 12 Negative-Feedback. Negative-Feedback 619	Posted - 2015.03.02 03:58:00 - [26] - Quote LUGMOS wrote: demonkiller 12 wrote: heavies are useless You just won the Forums ******* sweet, can i get a cal skinweave for that?
Reign Omega T.H.I.R.D R.O.C.K RISE of LEGION 1288	Posted - 2015.03.02 10:19:00 - [27] - Quote Ghost Kaisar wrote: IT IS DONE OP read this thread. Should help you immensely. Thanks much Ghost. As a recognizable vet who I raise eyebrows at the times I have seen you around (musturd I'm talking to you ) I appreciate the advice. @Leadfoot yes my gun game is lacking, I try to compensate with smart decision that allow me the advantage of winning a fight, low hp, unaware or distracted enemies, 2v1 kill steals etc. But I definitely want to up my raw killing. Mark a$$ tricks, and bags of dicks....


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