Honour in video games is a fallacy. It's a term people can throw at other to make their own failings seems better that they were and to demean their enemies, it also is a self imposed set of rules you should and cannot ever expect someone else to adopt simply to please you.

AS I pointed out earlier honour is just a term gamer like to pretend applies to their own gaming habits but is entirely devoid in those they face making their failed efforts more significant and "righteous" for whatever purpose they feel compelled to tell themselves.

Having played a franchise of games (Souls Series) since its inception you really have to work into or around the "honour" culture that the players tend to develop. Though even then that specific term is very broad, nebulous, and vague. Honour to some is not using specific over powered fit's like the infamous "Pushlock Katana's" [demon's souls], "GiantDad's" [dark souls,] or "Havellyn" [dark souls 2], to others it is specific kind of behavior your embody with emphasises direct combat over more complex manoeuvres and strategies like Back Stabbing, Counter Back Stabbing, Countering Counter Back Stabbing, Dead Angling, Parrying, etc, or even down to useless arguments used to demean an opponent who beat them within the mechanics of the game using the tools available to them.

I've heard every Honour based argument in the book and none of them have merit outside of organised contests in which both parties agree to the rules of the contest before it takes place, after which any broken rules can clearly be determined and the players integrity called into question of the bout restarted.

Honour in gaming, relative to me, is a self imposed standard I hold myself to but honestly cannot expect others to agree with or follow. Embarrassingly quoting Renton Thurston (**** you Kagehoshi) "Don't beg for things, do it yourself, or you won't get anything."

You mean how apathetic this whole game 'community' can be. Which is in part why this game will never truly succeed. This games barely fluctuates in numbers. We have a maybe 10% retention of newer players and a good bit of vets who are just tired and moving on. But of course, no one cares. We'd all rather get on the forums, measure the length of each other's imaginary dicks and see how vulgar we can be towards one another.

The only challenge people see left in this game is how best to **** each other off since improving the game appears out of the question.