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Sgt Kirk wrote:

We are 138 wrote:

I agree about the standard RR, its poop. I liKe the ARR and don't have any trouble with it. As for cal suits you may be doing it wrong. My proto cal assault has 406 shield, weak yes bit not if you fight from cover. I say that because with that suit the way I have it modded get 96 shield regen a second.... After 1.6 seconds.... If you don't kill me right off I'll be right back. Focus less on tank and more on regen. As with most things In Dust its situational. I run every thing in a match from amarr heavy to min scout to gal commando to cal assault. Just depends on what I happen to be trying to do at the moment.

This man gets it.

I don't think people realize that you have to fit shield drop suits differently than a straight up brawling armor dropsuit and the fact that shield dropsuits take more intelligence to fit and play properly puts it at odds with most of the DUST community which also doesn't realize that you aren't going to have a suit that's good at everything like COD and other games get people in a one man army kind of mindset.

There are some issues with shields such as threshold of damage and an appropriate shield repair tool but the large majority of it is people not knowing what they are doing.

Kudos to you for actually being smart.

Guys, we need to stop calling MU a 'matchmaker' when it's actually a 'teambuilder'.

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JARREL THOMAS Dead Man's Game RUST415 457	Posted - 2015.02.27 17:10:00 - [31] - Quote If you are using the RR stay at range dont go close range you should get rekt if your that close him. But if your using an ARR then and you lost to a sidearm than... Walks away Caldari Loyalist Why should infrantry that don't own vehicles, that can't balance their own mechanics, balance vehicles
TerranKnight87 Seituoda Taskforce Command Caldari State 209	Posted - 2015.02.27 17:26:00 - [32] - Quote Sniper gets out done by rr in cqc. Nerf rr. "Tech you're in a max suit, you have 15 mins to unfk yourself or you can fk off." - Stumpycat C/O of Goon Brigade.
sir RAVEN WING Horizons' Edge VP Gaming Alliance 3050	Posted - 2015.02.27 18:59:00 - [33] - Quote Zindorak wrote: Hell no! its already good enough Are you not the Gallente loyalist? I agree with him when it comes to the ADV RR. It kills so easily up close... *Quoth the Raven "Nevermore!"* - Edgar Allan Poe CCP Falcon has betrayed me... twice. I will steal his hamsters!
sir RAVEN WING Horizons' Edge VP Gaming Alliance 3050	Posted - 2015.02.27 18:59:00 - [34] - Quote TerranKnight87 wrote: Sniper gets out done by rr in cqc. Nerf rr. Actually, I get more kills with a SR in CQC than a RR. *Quoth the Raven "Nevermore!"* - Edgar Allan Poe CCP Falcon has betrayed me... twice. I will steal his hamsters!
Proto Annihilator 16 Vandals 440	Posted - 2015.02.27 19:11:00 - [35] - Quote jordy mack wrote: i have only recently discovered the rail rifle. and maybe its just coz im a cowardly strategist who likes to play at range but im having a great time with it. i hate the kick when it first came out so i ignored it completly and went combat rifle and good ol scrambler. but rails always out ranged me so i decided to give it another chance and once i got used to the kick ive been dooin pretty well with a militia, cant wait to get some proficency. i havnt even looked at the assault var... i hear its good? Try the militia assault rail rifle. ;)
Mexxx Dust-Slayer Negative-Feedback 351	Posted - 2015.02.27 19:19:00 - [36] - Quote saxonmish wrote: Obodiah Garro wrote: This pos weapon is now even outdone by smg and rp? Common to ****! I want a respec I dont need to pay for you clowns! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V2P9lBIBh9s&list=TLU0QeTxgRfEg This is pre-nerf.
QRT30 Rave Technologies Inc. C0VEN 78	Posted - 2015.02.27 19:19:00 - [37] - Quote 4lbert Wesker wrote: Rail rifle with a calmando and good spot can rip suits apart even with STD variant.Yesterday i had 32/2 with that combo.Take one RR(longer range assault) and ARR(close and mid range assault) and you can do some serious damage. It's my favorite suit for ambushes. QRT30 - all Caldari/Minimatar lvl 5, Gal all lvl.3 - core maxed QRT300 - Amarr heavy/commando
Lizard The Man Onikanabo Brigade Caldari State 11	Posted - 2015.02.27 19:22:00 - [38] - Quote It's ight I'm, cold-blooded
Proto Annihilator 16 Vandals 440	Posted - 2015.02.27 19:24:00 - [39] - Quote QRT30 wrote: 4lbert Wesker wrote: Rail rifle with a calmando and good spot can rip suits apart even with STD variant.Yesterday i had 32/2 with that combo.Take one RR(longer range assault) and ARR(close and mid range assault) and you can do some serious damage. It's my favorite suit for ambushes. Charge SR and a Ishukone ARR.
LUGMOS Corrosive Synergy RISE of LEGION 2385	Posted - 2015.02.27 19:34:00 - [40] - Quote Basic ARR on a Sever Assault is pretty fun. It seems in a pretty good place. RR on the same fit is pretty good, but one beef I have with the regular RR... The ridiculous sight shake. Makes it pretty hard to use at range... Official QuafeGäó Advocate Anti-FoTM Prof. V Forum Scavenger Prof. V

DDx77 The Exemplars RISE of LEGION 154	Posted - 2015.02.27 19:51:00 - [41] - Quote Obodiah Garro wrote: This pos weapon is now even outdone by smg and rp? Common to ****! I want a respec I dont need to pay for you clowns! --- Whenever they alter a weapon or gear as drastically as they did to the rail rifle they should give you a respec. Why? Well basically it's not the weapon/gear you believed you were investing weeks,/month of time into upgrading Yes that weapon needed a major rebalancing but no matter how good the reason I feel you are misleading your customers. I'm not talking about when they adjust the breach AR's clip to 150. I'm talking about a complete 180o of performance. The rail rifle went from a very stable operation to an epileptic seizure of hipfire kick. It has gone through multiple adjustments since and the kick in ads is still absolutely unforgivable I feel the same way about the new scanning system as it has somehow made the Amar scout the weakest (though still the best looking:) Bandwidth has affected proxy mines dramatically and boxed heavies into a cookie cutter corner. I wonder if some of the users of those playstyles feel this way? This is just my opinion Militia Bolt Pistol - Cause that fourth shot is just a waste of time
Leadfoot10 Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance 3336	Posted - 2015.02.27 19:56:00 - [42] - Quote I felt that way way back when my Cal Logi got nerfed.... ...and contact nades... ...and scanners... ...and and Cal Scout and Amarr Scout. So, by the time the RR got hit with changes, I was already numb to it and have been keeping several million skill points in reserve at all times in order to be able to adjust to the nerf/buff cycle that's being used to bring about balance. Said a bit more directly, after you've been hit with the nerf hammer a few times, you learn to deal with it. On the flip side, my favorite weapon since its introduction, the ARR, is finally in a pretty good place for me...which is a sure sign that it'll be nerfed in short order. lol
2Berries Ghosts of Dawn General Tso's Alliance 688	Posted - 2015.02.27 20:41:00 - [43] - Quote RR = Best rifle. Have you considered a career in costumed aggression?
Sicerly Yaw Quantum times 40	Posted - 2015.02.28 00:02:00 - [44] - Quote saxonmish wrote: Obodiah Garro wrote: This pos weapon is now even outdone by smg and rp? Common to ****! I want a respec I dont need to pay for you clowns! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V2P9lBIBh9s&list=TLU0QeTxgRfEg confirmed modded controller user, notice how there is no kick to his RR even at prof 5 the RR has way more kick then this
postapo wastelander Corrosive Synergy RISE of LEGION 956	Posted - 2015.02.28 05:59:00 - [45] - Quote Sicerly Yaw wrote: saxonmish wrote: Obodiah Garro wrote: This pos weapon is now even outdone by smg and rp? Common to **! I want a respec I dont need to pay for you clowns! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V2P9lBIBh9s&list=TLU0QeTxgRfEg confirmed modded controller user, notice how there is no kick to his RR even at prof 5 the RR has way more kick then this Moded my ductape newbie. Saxon is legit player, you should try play better and propably stop with false acusations. It is not fair ;j BTW is someone tell me RR is underpowered he should change prim. weapon or game. I spent 4 hours in dust this eve and most of deats just by RR. RR is fine end of story. "Sebiestor Tinker/Hetzer" "Corrosive Supporter/Synergist" "We build from Rust**"
Awesome Pantaloons Fatal Absolution Negative-Feedback 747	Posted - 2015.02.28 06:56:00 - [46] - Quote Ew. No. Just no. Shut your mouth right now. RR is made for long range. It destroys at long range. It is not made for anything else, which is why noobs will grab heavies and slap on a RR so they can camp from high ground. RR is useful at the ranges I is supposed to be useful. It doesn't need to be touched unless it is getting a damage nerf. :D You Caldari disgust me sometimes. Seid ihr das essen? Nein! Wir sind der jager!
Awesome Pantaloons Fatal Absolution Negative-Feedback 747	Posted - 2015.02.28 06:59:00 - [47] - Quote postapo wastelander wrote: Sicerly Yaw wrote: saxonmish wrote: Obodiah Garro wrote: This pos weapon is now even outdone by smg and rp? Common to ****! I want a respec I dont need to pay for you clowns! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V2P9lBIBh9s&list=TLU0QeTxgRfEg confirmed modded controller user, notice how there is no kick to his RR even at prof 5 the RR has way more kick then this Moded my ductape newbie. Saxon is legit player, you should try play better and propably stop with false acusations. It is not fair ;j BTW is someone tell me RR is underpowered he should change prim. weapon or game. I spent 4 hours in dust this eve and most of deats just by RR. RR is fine end of story. LOL!! sax legit. lulz. No, he uses a modded controller, bro. It is known. He's the only one allowed to get away with it though. Seid ihr das essen? Nein! Wir sind der jager!
The SONNET The Rainbow Effect Negative-Feedback 7	Posted - 2015.02.28 15:11:00 - [48] - Quote Totally agree! Needs a buff ;)
postapo wastelander Corrosive Synergy RISE of LEGION 959	Posted - 2015.02.28 15:21:00 - [49] - Quote Awesome Pantaloons wrote: postapo wastelander wrote: Sicerly Yaw wrote: saxonmish wrote: Obodiah Garro wrote: This pos weapon is now even outdone by smg and rp? Common to **! I want a respec I dont need to pay for you clowns! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V2P9lBIBh9s&list=TLU0QeTxgRfEg confirmed modded controller user, notice how there is no kick to his RR even at prof 5 the RR has way more kick then this Moded my ductape newbie. Saxon is legit player, you should try play better and propably stop with false acusations. It is not fair ;j BTW is someone tell me RR is underpowered he should change prim. weapon or game. I spent 4 hours in dust this eve and most of deats just by RR. RR is fine end of story. LOL!! sax legit. lulz. No, he uses a modded controller, bro. It is known. He's the only one allowed to get away with it though. You all are just too jelly nothing else XD "Sebiestor Tinker/Hetzer" "Corrosive Supporter/Synergist" "We build from Rust**"
TritusX PH4NT0M5 360	Posted - 2015.02.28 15:22:00 - [50] - Quote Am I the only one dying to SL-4 Assualt Rail Rifles then? That scout you see on the kill board with 20 kills and 15 deaths

postapo wastelander Corrosive Synergy RISE of LEGION 959	Posted - 2015.02.28 15:25:00 - [51] - Quote TritusX wrote: Am I the only one dying to SL-4 Assualt Rail Rifles then? You are nit the only one, i dying with ARR and RR. Weapon is beast and who thinks otherwise basicaly dont know how to use it. "Sebiestor Tinker/Hetzer" "Corrosive Supporter/Synergist" "We build from Rust"
Proto Annihilator 16 Vandals 452	Posted - 2015.02.28 15:59:00 - [52] - Quote Sicerly Yaw wrote: saxonmish wrote: Obodiah Garro wrote: This pos weapon is now even outdone by smg and rp? Common to ****! I want a respec I dont need to pay for you clowns! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V2P9lBIBh9s&list=TLU0QeTxgRfEg confirmed modded controller user, notice how there is no kick to his RR even at prof 5 the RR has way more kick then this Not if you fire from the hip. The kick becomes useful turning, center of mass shots into head shots. The ADS of rail rifle is nice too actually. Watch your sustained fire.
Stormblade Green KnightKiller's inc. 22	Posted - 2015.02.28 16:20:00 - [53] - Quote Obodiah Garro wrote: kinda begs the question why caldari even have an assault suit since whenever they get close to something they die automatically Then pack a cqc sidearm.. not the nova knives..... heck I Don't know what you guys are complaining about. I have a cladari assault fully racially fitted and I still get the same amount of kills but less deaths than in my minmitar assualt One might say... I'm very skilled... yet I'm his apprentice... So what does that say about my mentor?
Sir Dukey G0DS AM0NG MEN General Tso's Alliance 1822	Posted - 2015.02.28 16:22:00 - [54] - Quote Genral69 death wrote: Have you tryed an advanced cal assault with instead of regulators try kinkats and cardicats. It makes for a great hit and run suit Oh ****, we got a badass over here running 8 m/s.. Let me just instantly catch him in my Minmatar Assault which has twice the HP that runs 9.5 m/s with ease and destroy him. Better yet, i'm going to watch him panic as he tries to get outside me ScR range. Acquire Currency, Disregard Female Canis lupus familiaris
Sgt Kirk Fatal Absolution Negative-Feedback 9705	Posted - 2015.02.28 17:21:00 - [55] - Quote We are 138 wrote: I agree about the standard RR, its poop. I liKe the ARR and don't have any trouble with it. As for cal suits you may be doing it wrong. My proto cal assault has 406 shield, weak yes bit not if you fight from cover. I say that because with that suit the way I have it modded get 96 shield regen a second.... After 1.6 seconds.... If you don't kill me right off I'll be right back. Focus less on tank and more on regen. As with most things In Dust its situational. I run every thing in a match from amarr heavy to min scout to gal commando to cal assault. Just depends on what I happen to be trying to do at the moment. This man gets it. I don't think people realize that you have to fit shield drop suits differently than a straight up brawling armor dropsuit and the fact that shield dropsuits take more intelligence to fit and play properly puts it at odds with most of the DUST community which also doesn't realize that you aren't going to have a suit that's good at everything like COD and other games get people in a one man army kind of mindset. There are some issues with shields such as threshold of damage and an appropriate shield repair tool but the large majority of it is people not knowing what they are doing. Kudos to you for actually being smart. *As long as 4/5 (80%) of infantry AV weapons are Anti Armor based you're never going to achieve vehicle balance CCP*
Lorhak Gannarsein Nos Nothi 4354	Posted - 2015.02.28 17:40:00 - [56] - Quote Sgt Kirk wrote: We are 138 wrote: I agree about the standard RR, its poop. I liKe the ARR and don't have any trouble with it. As for cal suits you may be doing it wrong. My proto cal assault has 406 shield, weak yes bit not if you fight from cover. I say that because with that suit the way I have it modded get 96 shield regen a second.... After 1.6 seconds.... If you don't kill me right off I'll be right back. Focus less on tank and more on regen. As with most things In Dust its situational. I run every thing in a match from amarr heavy to min scout to gal commando to cal assault. Just depends on what I happen to be trying to do at the moment. This man gets it. I don't think people realize that you have to fit shield drop suits differently than a straight up brawling armor dropsuit and the fact that shield dropsuits take more intelligence to fit and play properly puts it at odds with most of the DUST community which also doesn't realize that you aren't going to have a suit that's good at everything like COD and other games get people in a one man army kind of mindset. There are some issues with shields such as threshold of damage and an appropriate shield repair tool but the large majority of it is people not knowing what they are doing. Kudos to you for actually being smart. I'm really enjoying my shield suits at the moment; I'm actually skilling up Cal Assault at the moment. Can't say I like RR, but I never have, not even when it was introduced; it seems to work okay, but now that I don't need to use it to compete properly (or CR even) I don't use it at all. Though I'll probably start using ARR to synergise with my CalAss... Guys, we need to stop calling MU a 'matchmaker' when it's actually a 'teambuilder'. And I want to play FE:A now. Damn.
Derpty Derp Dead Man's Game 864	Posted - 2015.02.28 17:42:00 - [57] - Quote Good luck hitting that RR user with your SMG bro... Something tells me you wont deal any damage at that range.
Obodiah Garro Tech Guard RISE of LEGION 1207	Posted - 2015.03.11 18:27:00 - [58] - Quote DDx77 wrote: Obodiah Garro wrote: This pos weapon is now even outdone by smg and rp? Common to ****! I want a respec I dont need to pay for you clowns! --- Whenever they alter a weapon or gear as drastically as they did to the rail rifle they should give you a respec. Why? Well basically it's not the weapon/gear you believed you were investing weeks,/month of time into upgrading Yes that weapon needed a major rebalancing but no matter how good the reason I feel you are misleading your customers. I'm not talking about when they adjust the breach AR's clip to 150. I'm talking about a complete 180o of performance. The rail rifle went from a very stable operation to an epileptic seizure of hipfire kick. It has gone through multiple adjustments since and the kick in ads is still absolutely unforgivable I feel the same way about the new scanning system as it has somehow made the Amar scout the weakest (though still the best looking:) Bandwidth has affected proxy mines dramatically and boxed heavies into a cookie cutter corner. I wonder if some of the users of those playstyles feel this way? This is just my opinion This, I obviously missed the RR 'balance' since I left the game for a while but considering I have full skills for it, and no skills for the AR yet the AR is a superior weapon in 80% of all instance then something is defo wrong here. Shooting down the scope shouldnt have the insane levels of kick for a start. Nemo me impune lacessit CCP - Announcing games at the same time as killing the ones you love CCP - No Credibility
Union118 Heaven's Lost Property 438	Posted - 2015.03.11 18:43:00 - [59] - Quote I use RR its perfect dont change it. Its completely balanced. I was murdering with it all day. Starter Fit Suits are OP :-)
Nirwanda Vaughns 1537	Posted - 2015.03.11 19:29:00 - [60] - Quote from what i'm reading the issue isn't the gun but how plaers are wantign to use the gun. Caldari as a race favour long range average damage, a standard RR is meant for that. sitting at 60m away, hammerign a target then hiding to recharge shields. the ARR is closer range but seeign as its not the races primary style they're not too efficient at it. don't whine about the gun, learn to use it and the suits correctly. Never argue with an idiot. they bring you down to their level and beat you through experience proud C-II bpo owner



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