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Obodiah Garro
Tech Guard RISE of LEGION
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Posted - 2015.02.27 08:51:00 -
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This pos weapon is now even outdone by smg and rp? Common to ****!
I want a respec I dont need to pay for you clowns!
Nemo me impune lacessit
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JONAHBENHUR
WarRavens
101
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Posted - 2015.02.27 09:07:00 -
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while i agree with you completely the rail rifle is hot garbage, a person should never die because the weapon they use is busted as all heck, and just about any suit is better using it than a caldari suit. The rail rifle has instead of just being a weapon you can use changed to a single role/play style weapon. Its simple get someplace high and crouch and try to shoot some people other than that it is a useless gun to go with the useless cal assault suit.n Try using the combat rifle it has good range and great ROF it really sticks it to those mean armor suits.
"To be a man you must have honor, "HONOR AND A PENIS !!" -shinoske noharu
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Obodiah Garro
Tech Guard RISE of LEGION
1205
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Posted - 2015.02.27 09:12:00 -
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kinda begs the question why caldari even have an assault suit since whenever they get close to something they die automatically
Nemo me impune lacessit
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JONAHBENHUR
WarRavens
102
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Posted - 2015.02.27 09:18:00 -
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well the i didnt mind the assult suit sucking so bad when the cal logi was still decent and then for a while the cal scout was super op. The heavy suit is still a sorta viable option but as a whole only caldari tanks are work sp or isk
"To be a man you must have honor, "HONOR AND A PENIS !!" -shinoske noharu
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Genral69 death
D3ATH C4RD
85
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Posted - 2015.02.27 09:34:00 -
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Have you tryed an advanced cal assault with instead of regulators kinkats and cardicats. It makes for a great hit and run suit |
We are 138
TRUE TEA BAGGERS
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Posted - 2015.02.27 09:34:00 -
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I agree about the standard RR, its poop. I liKe the ARR and don't have any trouble with it. As for cal suits you may be doing it wrong. My proto cal assault has 406 shield, weak yes bit not if you fight from cover. I say that because with that suit the way I have it modded get 96 shield regen a second.... After 1.6 seconds.... If you don't kill me right off I'll be right back. Focus less on tank and more on regen. As with most things In Dust its situational. I run every thing in a match from amarr heavy to min scout to gal commando to cal assault. Just depends on what I happen to be trying to do at the moment.
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Nirwanda Vaughns
1473
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Posted - 2015.02.27 11:16:00 -
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The gun is fine as it is for other races. make the Caldari assault bonus a reduction to scoped kick and dispersion (as a mirror to the gallente) that way it gives the caldari assault a proper place as a long range almost cover fire role and seperates it from the commando
Never argue with an idiot. they bring you down to their level and beat you through experience
proud C-II bpo owner
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diablo gamekeeper
T.H.I.R.D R.O.C.K RISE of LEGION
19
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Posted - 2015.02.27 11:31:00 -
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I dont ever have a problem using rail rifle....... |
Michael-J-Fox Richards
The Scope Gallente Federation
215
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Posted - 2015.02.27 11:36:00 -
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i like the rail rifle
I got that john elway arm to proficiency level 5.
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Mad Syringe
ReDust Inc.
475
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Posted - 2015.02.27 12:28:00 -
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I found a Quafe RR BPO... never liked it... if you find a Quafe MD, I'm all up for a swap. |
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Zindorak
Nyain Chan
1718
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Posted - 2015.02.27 12:48:00 -
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Hell no! its already good enough
Pokemon master and Tekken Lord
Give me da iskiez
Gk0 Scout yay :)
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saxonmish
T.H.I.R.D R.O.C.K RISE of LEGION
1051
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Posted - 2015.02.27 12:55:00 -
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Obodiah Garro wrote:This pos weapon is now even outdone by smg and rp? Common to ****! I want a respec I dont need to pay for you clowns!
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postapo wastelander
Corrosive Synergy RISE of LEGION
944
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Posted - 2015.02.27 12:58:00 -
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Obodiah Garro wrote:This pos weapon is now even outdone by smg and rp? Common to ****! I want a respec I dont need to pay for you clowns!
RR is not garbage at all, most of times when i was killed is directly by this weapon, end of story.
"Sebiestor Tinker/Hetzer"
"Corrosive Supporter/Synergist"
"We build from Rust"
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Michael Arck
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Posted - 2015.02.27 13:20:00 -
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The problem? No one cares. Plenty players in GD sought relentlessly to neuter the RR over a series of patches. You're gonna have those who say "I still get kills with it", "The ARR is good so your point is invalid", or the most famous line "The RR is in a good place"
Sucks, it does. Most of Caldari items are neutered to the point of being clown items. And no one gives a damn because they are no longer a headache to the most popular race choice of weapons and suits.
Archistrategos / The 7th Prime / Selah
*Where the fear has gone there will be nothing....only I will remain
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Bahirae Serugiusu
Vendetta Reactionary Force
556
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Posted - 2015.02.27 13:48:00 -
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Fine as it is you say? Unloads full Rail Rifle clip in a Sentinel and barely strip shields before the recoil has me shooting the entire side of a building. Uses Assault Rifle and kills the Sentinel in one clip.
The State will always survive.
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Proto Annihilator
16 Vandals
428
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Posted - 2015.02.27 13:56:00 -
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Bahirae Serugiusu wrote:Fine as it is you say? Unloads full Rail Rifle clip in a Sentinel and barely strip shields before the recoil has me shooting the entire side of a building. Uses Assault Rifle and kills the Sentinel in one clip.
You are doing it wrong. Wait until someone else has stripped the shields. Or let them feel safe by not shooting until they are too far out of cover to get back. It's called the point of no return. Use flux.
The rail rifle is an armor based weapon. Have a sheild based side arm. I use the RR. It has some recoil but you don't need to be sustaining fire that long. Be patient and clever. |
Cavani1EE7
Murphys-Law
924
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Posted - 2015.02.27 14:48:00 -
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It's still useful for getting safe kills at 70m away from the fight. Of course if somebody notices you while you're getting those easy untiring kills, you're dead.
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Shield tanking is hard mode /period.
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jordy mack
WarRavens
307
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Posted - 2015.02.27 15:18:00 -
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i have only recently discovered the rail rifle. and maybe its just coz im a cowardly strategist who likes to play at range but im having a great time with it. i hate the kick when it first came out so i ignored it completly and went combat rifle and good ol scrambler. but rails always out ranged me so i decided to give it another chance and once i got used to the kick ive been dooin pretty well with a militia, cant wait to get some proficency.
i havnt even looked at the assault var... i hear its good?
Less QQ more PewPew
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postapo wastelander
Corrosive Synergy RISE of LEGION
945
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Posted - 2015.02.27 15:40:00 -
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If you spec completely RR it is quite outranging killing beast. Nothing else to say
"Sebiestor Tinker/Hetzer"
"Corrosive Supporter/Synergist"
"We build from Rust"
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Leadfoot10
Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance
3330
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Posted - 2015.02.27 15:44:00 -
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I (and others) tried to tell him...
Moving past that, you might try the ARR. It's in the best place it's been since its introduction. |
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4lbert Wesker
King and Queens
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Posted - 2015.02.27 15:45:00 -
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jordy mack wrote:i have only recently discovered the rail rifle. and maybe its just coz im a cowardly strategist who likes to play at range but im having a great time with it. i hate the kick when it first came out so i ignored it completly and went combat rifle and good ol scrambler. but rails always out ranged me so i decided to give it another chance and once i got used to the kick ive been dooin pretty well with a militia, cant wait to get some proficency.
i havnt even looked at the assault var... i hear its good?
Rail rifle with a calmando and good spot can rip suits apart even with STD variant.Yesterday i had 32/2 with that combo.Take one RR(longer range assault) and ARR(close and mid range assault) and you can do some serious damage.
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LUGMOS
Corrosive Synergy RISE of LEGION
2384
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Posted - 2015.02.27 15:48:00 -
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Proto Annihilator wrote:Bahirae Serugiusu wrote:Fine as it is you say? Unloads full Rail Rifle clip in a Sentinel and barely strip shields before the recoil has me shooting the entire side of a building. Uses Assault Rifle and kills the Sentinel in one clip. You are doing it wrong. Wait until someone else has stripped the shields. Or let them feel safe by not shooting until they are too far out of cover to get back. It's called the point of no return. Use flux. The rail rifle is an armor based weapon. Have a sheild based side arm. I use the RR. It has some recoil but you don't need to be sustaining fire that long. Be patient and clever. Not even the CR (which is worse against shields) has to do that. There is something wrong here...
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postapo wastelander
Corrosive Synergy RISE of LEGION
946
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Posted - 2015.02.27 15:51:00 -
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LUGMOS wrote:Proto Annihilator wrote:Bahirae Serugiusu wrote:Fine as it is you say? Unloads full Rail Rifle clip in a Sentinel and barely strip shields before the recoil has me shooting the entire side of a building. Uses Assault Rifle and kills the Sentinel in one clip. You are doing it wrong. Wait until someone else has stripped the shields. Or let them feel safe by not shooting until they are too far out of cover to get back. It's called the point of no return. Use flux. The rail rifle is an armor based weapon. Have a sheild based side arm. I use the RR. It has some recoil but you don't need to be sustaining fire that long. Be patient and clever. Not even the CR (which is worse against shields) has to do that. There is something wrong here...
I bet the lag. Yesterday i was in few and they do not had problems with my fully 300+ shielding. I thing OP is just subjection nothing else boyko ;p
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"Corrosive Supporter/Synergist"
"We build from Rust"
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Aramis Madrigal
Titans of Phoenix VP Gaming Alliance
369
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Posted - 2015.02.27 15:53:00 -
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The RR isn't awful, but there are better options (CR and SCR are both superior, with a little less range). The ARR seems like it's in a decent place. I can win most cqc fights with it while still having good range. I skilled into the cal assault just so I could wear the frames, but I actually like the suit. Fitted for shields+regen it is solid. I've long advocated for a kick/spread reduction for the cal assault applied to the RR as the suit bonus. It would allow a cal assault to fit a RR and still be viable in close quarters. |
Racro 01 Arifistan
Simple Minded People Pty. Ltd.
505
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Posted - 2015.02.27 15:56:00 -
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if the RR wasn't useful then why wouldn't I be dropping suits from 80-100m with the SB-39. RR is fine as is. its designed for mid-long range fights.
the ARR on the other hand while good is clearly over performing in CQC from personal use and also dieing to it.
if a weapon was completely and utterly useless, ccp would more than likely buff it to the point of being OP......looking at you bolt pistol and breach SCP.
Elite Gallenten Soldier
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postapo wastelander
Corrosive Synergy RISE of LEGION
946
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Posted - 2015.02.27 16:06:00 -
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Racro 01 Arifistan wrote:if the RR wasn't useful then why wouldn't I be dropping suits from 80-100m with the SB-39. RR is fine as is. its designed for mid-long range fights.
the ARR on the other hand while good is clearly over performing in CQC from personal use and also dieing to it.
if a weapon was completely and utterly useless, ccp would more than likely buff it to the point of being OP......looking at you bolt pistol and breach SCP.
Exactly, i will go with the line:"If you cannot use it, use any other stuff..if you want be purist put your whole skill in your racial and stop QQ."
RR is made like automatic marksman rifle ergo long2medium range, if you have proble with it go with AR.
"Sebiestor Tinker/Hetzer"
"Corrosive Supporter/Synergist"
"We build from Rust"
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Commander Noctus
0uter.Heaven
218
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Posted - 2015.02.27 16:12:00 -
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The ARR is pretty good where it is, imo. The regular one I don't really feel too bad about, though I haven't really used the ScR or CR in comparison.
What exactly is it that people want "fixed" about it anyway? Decrease the recoil and kick at ADS? At hip? Faster RoF? What could you add that wouldn't give it a much higher advantage, taking it's extreme range into account?
Gallente User since Jan. 28th, 2013. Touched on every Gallente role since.
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postapo wastelander
Corrosive Synergy RISE of LEGION
947
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Posted - 2015.02.27 16:17:00 -
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Commander Noctus wrote:The ARR is pretty good where it is, imo. The regular one I don't really feel too bad about, though I haven't really used the ScR or CR in comparison.
What exactly is it that people want "fixed" about it anyway? Decrease the recoil and kick at ADS? At hip? Faster RoF? What could you add that wouldn't give it a much higher advantage, taking it's extreme range into account?
They want lesser kick to make from RR some OP mutatuion of "scrubgun". It is easy, everytime there is somebody who want advantage without any trainning or skilling on it.
"Sebiestor Tinker/Hetzer"
"Corrosive Supporter/Synergist"
"We build from Rust"
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Mortishai Belmont
G.L.O.R.Y General Tso's Alliance
536
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Posted - 2015.02.27 16:40:00 -
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I've been killed at 80m with rail rifles, exceeding 1200 damage in mere seconds.
You clearly don't know how to use the thing, it works just fine.
G.L.O.R.Y Soldier,
I'm that Amarr heavy you warn your team about <3
-Heavy/Logi/Assault/Scout-
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pegasis prime
BIG BAD W0LVES
2012
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Posted - 2015.02.27 17:03:00 -
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As a diehard caldari fan iv been using the rail rifle since it was released along with the bolt pistol and magsec . And even after the increase in kick that was added to the rr iv still been melting face with it. Most people I see moaning about any of the caldari teck have been using it incorrectly all caldari wepons and suits are most effective at longer ranged combat I.e. 50 to 80 metres in the the only exemption really being the sniper rifles . The greatest advantage of caldari teck is range as in out ranging all the other rifles bar the lazer rifle .
Proud Caldari purist . Rank 10 colonel omiwarrior.
I fought and bled for the State on Caldari prime.
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