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Sgt Kirk Fatal Absolution Negative-Feedback 9675	Posted - 2015.02.25 06:42:00 - [1] - Quote I'd like it if they were able to not be completely useless past 5 meters but I don't want them to be anywhere near effective. past that the dispersion should get a lot worse and less and less shots hit you while the projectiles spread with range. At 7 meters I'd like only 60% (about 7 pellets) of the projectiles hitting you. At 10 meters I'd like only 50% (6 pellets) of the Projectiles hitting you. At 13 meters I'd like only 30% (about 4 pellets) hitting you, and now it's no longer doing optimal 15 meters only doing 20% (about 2 pellets) and less optimal any further than that and good luck hitting a target you intend on hitting but less and less damage from falloff on top of that. Essentially doing nothing. MINA Longstrike wrote: Heimdallr69 wrote: This dude did 1400 DMG 2 shots with a std last match.. That's crazy. I'm really interested in try to get shotguns into a place where assaults and commandos would want to use them, without them being instagibby on a scout. I'm very much for this too. While they can be used on Gallente Assaults it's not exactly a fit I would bring to a PC match. A Minmatar Assault could but then again, what doesn't a Minmatar assault do? I don't want the shotgun to be OP but I'd wish it wasn't so exclusive to one suit. It isn't a cloak, it isn't knives, it's not a heavy weapon it's a light weapon. *As long as 4/5 (80%) of infantry AV weapons are Anti Armor based you're never going to achieve vehicle balance CCP*
Sgt Kirk Fatal Absolution Negative-Feedback 9675	Posted - 2015.02.25 06:51:00 - [2] - Quote MINA Longstrike wrote: ^part of it would be that dispersion/spread from gal-assault would be applicable. Hahaha and finally I'd be able to properly appreciate that bonus. It is a decent bonus but if you have sharpshooter it kinda devoids it. If you don't want to skill into sharpshooter on your AR then the Gallente bonus will save you some SP. Outside of that, it's barely noticeable past Sharpshooter level 2 on a Maxed Gallente Assault with TAR. Imagine how unseen it is with the other ARs that are already damn near laser accurate. and too much accuracy at the hipfire can be a bad thing for those people that like to say more hip fire accuracy is better. Look at the heavy machine gun issue before it became what it is now, it was too damn accurate. *As long as 4/5 (80%) of infantry AV weapons are Anti Armor based you're never going to achieve vehicle balance CCP*
Sgt Kirk Fatal Absolution Negative-Feedback 9675	Posted - 2015.02.25 07:44:00 - [3] - Quote I can do that too. More range will be better because we think it will be better because reasons. *As long as 4/5 (80%) of infantry AV weapons are Anti Armor based you're never going to achieve vehicle balance CCP*
Sgt Kirk Fatal Absolution Negative-Feedback 9675	Posted - 2015.02.25 08:04:00 - [4] - Quote Reign Omega wrote: I saw a few assaults running shotties. It worked. Pub matches. I can run a Gallente Commando Kin Catted like crazy with a melee mod and kill people. It worked, is it viable? Maybe for pubs, but certainly not all pubs and most definitely not PC or serious FW matches. I really get tired of the argument people use of seeing it in a pub match with pub trash and then saying "herp derp, look he can kill my idiot teammates by nova knifing them in a heavy suit! That most be a competitive playstyle* (not saying that heavies with novo knives should be viable by the way.) *As long as 4/5 (80%) of infantry AV weapons are Anti Armor based you're never going to achieve vehicle balance CCP*
Sgt Kirk Fatal Absolution Negative-Feedback 9692	Posted - 2015.02.27 03:38:00 - [5] - Quote True Adamance wrote: MINA Longstrike wrote: The hybrid charge is the thing that they're converting into plasma (in the case of gallente blaster weapons), caldari use the same things except just hyper-accelerate them as solid-state slugs. I'd assume as small bolt shaped kinetic energy penetrators in the case of Caldari. Wait, so like a bullet with powder in it to explain it better. The Gallente use the bullet to sustain the powder until the powder can be properly processed, charged and emitted from the weapon? The Caldari use the powder in the bullet to ignite it and propel the bullet with the ignition from the powder? *As long as 4/5 (80%) of infantry AV weapons are Anti Armor based you're never going to achieve vehicle balance CCP*

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