DUST Search - Pilot Suits: I Give In

Pokey Dravon wrote:

DUST Fiend wrote:

I don't see why we couldn't have both, pilot suit required for all but LAVs, and an enter exit delay / animation to keep HMG LAV Heavies from being as obnoxious. Pilot suits bypass the delay, and the delay is scaled upwards from light to heavy. LAVs are an open cockpit, generalist vehicle. They're made for rapid transport and that's about it. Being forced to ride around in a squishy suit would be a little lame, especially since the bonuses from the suit likely wouldn't be as useful on an LAV. I don't mind AV hopping out of an LAV because if they're acting solo, they're only a threat to me as either the turret (while stationary) or their AV (mostly stationary), versus having a full combat ready platform with oodles of HP, and plenty of cover to hide behind.

I see no reason to let others pilot actual vehicles. Sorry LAVs, you're the redheaded stepchild of the vehicle tree, deal with it.

I just don't see the need to make pilot suits *required* to pilot a vehicle. Pilot suits should provide enough of a benefit that a pilot is going to be at a disadvantage if they're not using the suit, but they're still not required to.

It just feels like poor design when you have to impose arbitrary limitations (or exceptions) such as "Oh well this is always true, except LAVs, because reasons."


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Takahiro Kashuken Red Star. 3943	Posted - 2015.02.23 14:03:00 - [1] - Quote Is a Pilot suit worth 2.7mil just so i can get into a vehicle? No It should be worthwhile to use, offer a decent bonus. Vehicles are supposed to be a playstyle in itself but currently it is not, anything a vehicle can do infantry can do better and adding a pilot suit now with nothing with it would not change anything apart from the jumping out of a vehicle with something useful.
Takahiro Kashuken Red Star. 3963	Posted - 2015.02.25 10:54:00 - [2] - Quote Pokey Dravon wrote: DUST Fiend wrote: I don't see why we couldn't have both, pilot suit required for all but LAVs, and an enter exit delay / animation to keep HMG LAV Heavies from being as obnoxious. Pilot suits bypass the delay, and the delay is scaled upwards from light to heavy. LAVs are an open cockpit, generalist vehicle. They're made for rapid transport and that's about it. Being forced to ride around in a squishy suit would be a little lame, especially since the bonuses from the suit likely wouldn't be as useful on an LAV. I don't mind AV hopping out of an LAV because if they're acting solo, they're only a threat to me as either the turret (while stationary) or their AV (mostly stationary), versus having a full combat ready platform with oodles of HP, and plenty of cover to hide behind. I see no reason to let others pilot actual vehicles. Sorry LAVs, you're the redheaded stepchild of the vehicle tree, deal with it. I just don't see the need to make pilot suits required to pilot a vehicle. Pilot suits should provide enough of a benefit that a pilot is going to be at a disadvantage if they're not using the suit, but they're still not required to. It just feels like poor design when you have to impose arbitrary limitations (or exceptions) such as "Oh well this is always true, except LAVs, because reasons." Limitations exist all over this game. Look at bandwidth and how that killed pubs, you want links use the amarr, you want reps use the minmatar, you want scanner use gallente, you want nanohives use caldari but if you dont you get less of everything and any bonuses lost unless you run all the same equipment Same with assault suits, don't use the weapon dont get the bonuses. Lets not forget about vehicles with the impending doom of having 1 hardener or the fact that the core locus grenade, flaylock, mass driver all have bigger splash radius and do more splash damage than a large missile and also last but not least getting new advanced and prototype vehicles but without the increasing slot layout.
Takahiro Kashuken Red Star. 3966	Posted - 2015.02.25 11:45:00 - [3] - Quote Obodiah Garro wrote: Its simple really, too leave a vehicle you need to go through a cooldown timer. Only pilots can operate HAV/DS/ADS non pilot suit - 10s pilot suit milita - 9 std - 7 adv - 5 pro - 3 Make pilot suits extremely cheap, no slots, they just give you better opertunity to escape when your vehicle is gonna be toast and let you operate the specialized machinery. No more LAV/Heavy spam, no more instant evac for everybody else. Win win. Once again im not paying 2.7mil SP for that. Im not paying 57k per suit for that either. In comparision to other proto suits for infantry they can have upto 3 skill bonuses attached, i do expect Pilot suits to have skill bonuses which are useful for all vehicles.