Your DPS is misleading, as it takes longer than 1.05s to launch a volley, aside from that I'll wait until you're finished before commenting on the rest of your assertion.

Though the thought of consuming a Pilot is, interesting to say the least.

gibberish

stuff

The argument is pilots vs forum/spreadsheet warriors. That's experience vs people that make charts.

Experience > chartmaking

Acting like an adult I see,

Swarms on any commando are deadly, on the minmando it's a whole new level.

I guess I get where you are going with it, but there are other problems as well.

I agree that it is rather easy at times to take down something like an ADS with Swarms, however, ADS are not the only vehicle.

I vividly remember one occasion where I had my Minmando out with Pro Swarms while a solo player sat in his LAV gunner seat and let me hit him. It took a full clip of volleys in order to do it, and had the guy actually been trying I would not have been able to.

Then there are the HAVs. They also pretty much have to not be trying and allow me to kill them, or get too confident in thinking they can kill me first. Swarms are next to nothing in AV effectiveness with HAVs, particularly with any sort of hardeners.

While adjusting swarms may make them a little more balanced with regards to ADS, it will very much hurt them against everything else.

And don't forget that while manning swarms you are very much at the mercy of any infantry, and if using anything other than a Commando have no real recourse.

There is a lot going on here, and I don't think we can discuss this as if this were in a vacuum. With major Vehicle changes around the corner we are just getting ahead of ourselves.

your statement is true.

But the Minmando has no part in this problem.

Swarms are buggered without help.

What if you needed to retain the swarm lock? Like say if the lock was a laser guided mechanism and if you removed the weapons aim from the vehicle your targets lost track?

In one sense I get where you are going with it, but I personally find swarms to be buggy. I will often aim my SL after a volley, and the game won't register that I am aiming directly at the vehicle, so it can take twice the time to get off a second volley. This is one reason why its so hard to do enough damage to tanks to scare them away because it takes longer to be effective.

And pokey, you moron.

You told me to in the OP!

As Pokey said, the minmatar commando, with the AV boosts completely set aside, are actually underwhelming. It's not that the minmatar commando gets a bonus to AV, it's how the particular form of AV works.

He's comparing it to the plasma cannon. People don't care about the Gallente Commando wiedling a plasma cannon. The reason you can come to is probably because using the plasma cannon is difficult and limited in range.

I will, however, point out that comparing the caldari commando to the gallente commando for using the plasma cannon is silly. The gallente commando tanks with its low slots while the caldari tanks with its high slots. The caldari Commando does NOT want to be in the thick of the fight with a plasma cannon and no shield modules. (please correct me if I'm wrong)