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MINA Longstrike
Kirjuun Heiian
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Posted - 2015.02.20 01:38:00 -
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One Eyed King wrote:I am trying to understand what the real issue is.
That Minmandos are better at AV?
Is that really a problem if that turns out to be the case?
They start off with much lower HP than other heavies. They have comperable HP to assaults, if not much lower yet have no grenades and few module slots to use, and have poor EWAR.
Commandos in general are lacking a role, would it be a significant problem if they were much better at AV than other classes?
I think the problem isn't that 'commandos do av' its that 'specific commando has sustained dps well above higher skilled weapons that can miss with a weapon that functionally cannot miss'.
I'm just spitballing ideas and I think it really comes down to we need to turn back the weapons ease of use. I'd propose this by making the swarm function more similarly to the PLC but with a few tweaks: make it a single projectile weapon with a damage per shot, magazine size and reload similar to plc, allow it to dumbfire vs infantry & installations, give it a flat travel path and finally cause its projectile to home like an AV grenade when it passes within say 25m of a vehicle.
The swarm could now 'miss' at long ranges, but it still functions well at short range. Variants could be created like an assault/breach that don't home so they can be used vs infantry or tactical which does a little less damage but has a wider homing area that could be used vs dropships.
This also allows for a little closer av balancing.
Hnolai ki tuul, ti sei oni a tiu. Kirjuun Heiian.
I have a few alts.
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MINA Longstrike
Kirjuun Heiian
2212
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Posted - 2015.02.20 02:03:00 -
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Pokey is incredibly reasonable, I don't really appreciate you trying to belittle him when he's trying to foster healthy discussion on something perceived by a reasonably large portion of the community to be a problem. If you can't act like an adult **** off.
Hnolai ki tuul, ti sei oni a tiu. Kirjuun Heiian.
I have a few alts.
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MINA Longstrike
Kirjuun Heiian
2212
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Posted - 2015.02.20 03:29:00 -
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Doc DDD wrote:MINA Longstrike wrote:Pokey is incredibly reasonable, I don't really appreciate you trying to belittle him when he's trying to foster healthy discussion on something perceived by a reasonably large portion of the community to be a contentious issue. If you can't act like an adult **** off. Acting like an adult I see, Swarms on any commando are deadly, on the minmando it's a whole new level. Stating quite clearly that no one wants to listen to belligerent and demeaning bullshit from someone acting like a whiny idiot because they couldn't read the thread and understand why their initial point was dismissed is surprisingly an adult thing to do. It's called establishing boundaries and setting expectations of behaviour.
You missed the point, that is why you were dismissed. It is not acceptable to demean and belittle someone based on your failing.
Hnolai ki tuul, ti sei oni a tiu. Kirjuun Heiian.
I have a few alts.
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MINA Longstrike
Kirjuun Heiian
2213
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Posted - 2015.02.20 03:41:00 -
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Spkr4theDead wrote:MINA Longstrike wrote:Pokey is incredibly reasonable, I don't really appreciate you trying to belittle him when he's trying to foster healthy discussion on something perceived by a reasonably large portion of the community to be a contentious issue. If you can't act like an adult **** off. The argument is pilots vs forum/spreadsheet warriors. That's experience vs people that make charts. Experience > chartmaking
How have you not been banned yet you pedantic ****. I'm honestly surprised with how you've carried on in every thread ever. Especially with rattati warning you to stop being a shitlord.
Hnolai ki tuul, ti sei oni a tiu. Kirjuun Heiian.
I have a few alts.
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MINA Longstrike
Kirjuun Heiian
2213
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Posted - 2015.02.20 04:05:00 -
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FYI I have 4 accounts spkr, I only tank on Mina, I destroy you relatively regularly on other characters because you play like you post, headstrong moronic and belligerent.
Hnolai ki tuul, ti sei oni a tiu. Kirjuun Heiian.
I have a few alts.
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