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shaman oga
Dead Man's Game
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Posted - 2015.02.19 10:45:00 -
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Is it possible to change movement penalty to affect more sprint speed and less walking speed?
I'm tired of seeing people with 600+ armor running like crazy because some kincat, if you tank, your sprint must be slower.
Some have luck, some have money, trading is not a crime.
Minmatar omni-merc
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Breakin Stuff
Goonfeet
Special Planetary Emergency Response Group
7294
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Posted - 2015.02.19 10:50:00 -
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Really?
This complaint is sad.
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shaman oga
Dead Man's Game
4036
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Posted - 2015.02.19 10:56:00 -
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Not really, for speed there's a price to pay, give something away to earn something else, it's a pretty common concept.
I'm not even so radicalist, i would not penalize that much walking speed.
Some have luck, some have money, trading is not a crime.
Minmatar omni-merc
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Breakin Stuff
Goonfeet
Special Planetary Emergency Response Group
7294
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Posted - 2015.02.19 11:05:00 -
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There's no reason for it past "you dislike it."
That's not a valid reason to nerf anything.
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shaman oga
Dead Man's Game
4036
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Posted - 2015.02.19 11:21:00 -
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It's not that i dislike it, it's that i feel this is unbalanced, have both speed and tank.
Some have luck, some have money, trading is not a crime.
Minmatar omni-merc
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Breakin Stuff
Goonfeet
Special Planetary Emergency Response Group
7296
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Posted - 2015.02.19 12:01:00 -
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shaman oga wrote:It's not that i dislike it, it's that i feel this is unbalanced, have both speed and tank.
A kincat can completely deny sprint penalty of 2 adv plates and still gain some speed.
That's sort of why they exist.
That and to make minmatar nosebleedingly fast.
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Adipem Nothi
Nos Nothi
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Posted - 2015.02.19 13:20:00 -
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The idea was to fix heavily armored wiggle-wiggle.
Shoot scout with yes.
- Ripley Riley
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Slave of MORTE
Eyniletti Rangers
Minmatar Republic
306
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Posted - 2015.02.19 13:46:00 -
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Sure why not and hey let's make fitting shield extenders slow down shield suits 2
That's how ludicrous you sound
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Slave of MORTE
Eyniletti Rangers
Minmatar Republic
306
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Posted - 2015.02.19 13:48:00 -
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Qq waaaaa it's not ok to have 600 armor and decent sprint
But it's ok to have 500 shields 500 armor and sprint fast as **** (min assault )
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shaman oga
Dead Man's Game
4036
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Posted - 2015.02.19 13:55:00 -
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Slave of MORTE wrote:Qq waaaaa it's not ok to have 600 armor and decent sprint
But it's ok to have 500 shields 500 armor and sprint fast as **** (min assault )
To have 500 armor on min assault you have to use plates mr intellingence, this would affect all suits.
Some have luck, some have money, trading is not a crime.
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Breakin Stuff
Goonfeet
Special Planetary Emergency Response Group
7296
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Posted - 2015.02.19 14:46:00 -
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Adipem Nothi wrote:The idea was to fix heavily armored wiggle-wiggle.
Wigglewiggle can only be fixed by inertia. And you cannot sprintwiggle so kincats don't enhance the strafy thing. They only boost sprint.
Kincats vs hit detection are a red herring.
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Adipem Nothi
Nos Nothi
6772
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Posted - 2015.02.19 15:01:00 -
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Breakin Stuff wrote:Adipem Nothi wrote:The idea was to fix heavily armored wiggle-wiggle. Wigglewiggle can only be fixed by inertia. And you cannot sprintwiggle so kincats don't enhance the strafy thing. They only boost sprint. Kincats vs hit detection are a red herring.
Strafe speed is derived from movement speed, and movement speed is affected by plates. An additional strafe penalty was recently applied to vanilla plates. Before the penalty, heavily armored Caldari and Gallente Scouts were wiggle-wiggling their way to the top of PC usage charts. These up-armored, light-frame wiggle-wigglers were the target of this additional strafe penalty.
OP writes: "Is it possible to change movement penalty to affect more sprint speed and less walking speed?"
I'm pointing out only why I believe this would be ill-advised. Perhaps I should've elaborated a 'bit more ...
Shoot scout with yes.
- Ripley Riley
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Breakin Stuff
Goonfeet
Special Planetary Emergency Response Group
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Posted - 2015.02.19 15:52:00 -
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Adipem Nothi wrote:Breakin Stuff wrote:Adipem Nothi wrote:The idea was to fix heavily armored wiggle-wiggle. Wigglewiggle can only be fixed by inertia. And you cannot sprintwiggle so kincats don't enhance the strafy thing. They only boost sprint. Kincats vs hit detection are a red herring. Strafe speed is derived from movement speed, and movement speed is affected by plates. An additional strafe penalty was recently applied to vanilla plates. Before the penalty, heavily armored Caldari and Gallente Scouts were wiggle-wiggling their way to the top of PC usage charts. These up-armored, light-frame wiggle-wigglers were the target of this additional strafe penalty. OP writes: "Is it possible to change movement penalty to affect more sprint speed and less walking speed?" I'm pointing out only why I believe this would be ill-advised. Perhaps I should've elaborated a 'bit more ...
I find the request arbitrary and without any evidence of exploitive play, honestly. But thanks for the clarification. Personally I think adding inertia, acceleration and deceleration to dropsuits would have been better as a solution to wigglewiggle than what we got.
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Adipem Nothi
Nos Nothi
6774
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Posted - 2015.02.19 16:30:00 -
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Breakin Stuff wrote: Personally I think adding inertia, acceleration and deceleration to dropsuits would have been better as a solution to wigglewiggle than what we got.
Agreed 100%.
Shoot scout with yes.
- Ripley Riley
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maluble
Art.of.Death
VP Gaming Alliance
205
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Posted - 2015.02.19 20:26:00 -
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Slave of MORTE wrote:Sure why not and hey let's make fitting shield extenders slow down shield suits 2
That's how ludicrous you sound
Not really shields are inferior to armour, and he is right if you wana stack armour on medium/light frame you should be as mobile as a heavy frame. |
Breakin Stuff
Goonfeet
Special Planetary Emergency Response Group
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Posted - 2015.02.19 22:00:00 -
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maluble wrote:Slave of MORTE wrote:Sure why not and hey let's make fitting shield extenders slow down shield suits 2
That's how ludicrous you sound Not really shields are inferior to armour, and he is right if you wana stack armour on medium/light frame you should be as mobile as a heavy frame.
most of those 600HP armor suits are stacking ferro and reactives. Only heavies use the regular plates much anymore
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DeadlyAztec11
Ostrakon Agency
7549
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Posted - 2015.02.20 06:22:00 -
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N, the Gallente made the Kinetic Catalyzer specifically to allow us the ability to sprint quickly without needing to sacrifice armor.
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HOLY PERFECTION
OUTCAST MERCS
RISE of LEGION
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Posted - 2015.02.20 06:25:00 -
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Slave of MORTE wrote:Sure why not and hey let's make fitting shield extenders slow down shield suits 2
That's how ludicrous you sound
Good IDEA
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