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Posted - 2015.02.17 22:23:00 -
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H0riz0n Unlimit wrote:Iron Wolf Saber wrote:I particularly don't care about the wins; they prove useful decoys. How can you play if you dont care about win? Are you tryng to catch butterflies in the red line? It s ok have fun as it is a game but if you dont play for win you can play barbie or hello kitty I liked LAV racing, that was fun. Didn't win.
I also like melee fits, don't always win but hella fun. Same with PLC.
Just because IWS said it doesn't mean you have to automatically hate...
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Posted - 2015.02.17 22:29:00 -
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Reign Omega wrote:I usually mail people in game and see if they want to squad up if they do very poorly. If they have a mic I try to ask them questions and point them in the right direction. Seeing someone go 0/20 is heartbreaking That's the spirit!
We need more people like you instead of protostomping tryhards.
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Posted - 2015.02.18 02:27:00 -
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Thumb Green wrote:LUGMOS wrote:H0riz0n Unlimit wrote:Iron Wolf Saber wrote:I particularly don't care about the wins; they prove useful decoys. How can you play if you dont care about win? Are you tryng to catch butterflies in the red line? It s ok have fun as it is a game but if you dont play for win you can play barbie or hello kitty I liked LAV racing, that was fun. Didn't win. I also like melee fits, don't always win but hella fun. Same with PLC. Just because IWS said it doesn't mean you have to automatically hate... Doesn't matter who says it, automatically hate. I'm not saying you can't play just to have fun but if you aren't trying to win even just a little bit then you're a wasted spot on the team. You can play to win and have fun as well, the two aren't mutually exclusive; but if you just want to jerk off, there's porno for that. You don't always win but at least you tried, even if it was only slightly harder than the rest of the dipshits on your team. Oh **** youtoo...
I bet you're that douche in gym that is always bitching at the fat kid you got on your team because he can't run as fast.
Like real life, there's a place for competition and one for fun in DUST, FW+PC and pubs respectively.
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Posted - 2015.02.18 03:22:00 -
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Thumb Green wrote: If you want to fck around instead of trying to win you should go do it where it won't negatively impact other players
The rest I get where you're coming from, but I don't get this one line:
Where in the world would that be, may I ask, if pubs is not the place? Getting stomped gets annoying, sometimes I just feel like f*cking around...
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Posted - 2015.02.18 03:43:00 -
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Thumb Green wrote:LUGMOS wrote:Thumb Green wrote: If you want to fck around instead of trying to win you should go do it where it won't negatively impact other players
The rest I get where you're coming from, but I don't get this one line: Where in the world would that be, may I ask, if pubs is not the place? Getting stomped gets annoying, sometimes I just feel like f*cking around... People fcking around/not trying is the reason most stomps happen. Nope... It's a symptom.
It's better than getting your ass handed to you 100 times over with this garbage matchmaking.
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Posted - 2015.02.18 22:20:00 -
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Thumb Green wrote:Lorhak Gannarsein wrote:Thumb Green wrote:LUGMOS wrote:Thumb Green wrote: If you want to fck around instead of trying to win you should go do it where it won't negatively impact other players
The rest I get where you're coming from, but I don't get this one line: Where in the world would that be, may I ask, if pubs is not the place? Getting stomped gets annoying, sometimes I just feel like f*cking around... People fcking around/not trying is the reason most stomps happen. So that doesn't answer his question. If not pubs, where do I go to not care about winning? FW, where winning and losing is relevant to some egghead in the sky? PC, where winning and losing is directly relevant to my corp and my wallet? Seriously, I'd love to hear your answer. I did answer his question, with a question. Seriously, if you're not even going to put forth even just a slight bit of effort to win then why are you playing a competitive game? Don't feel like being competitive? Go play a game that isn't built around it. Where was the question/answer thing... I don't see it.
Also, if I don't necessarily care about winning and just want to **** around (since ya know, it is a game, games are fun), where do I go?
I really like DUST and don't want to do it in another game.
I could always set up a FW q-sync and try to get 32 players on each side, but that requires a massive amount of effort and planning. I could do the same with a PC district, but that requires the same PLUS a cost of at least 40 million.
I'm not saying I **** around a lot, I try with my PLC and melee fits, but come on... Sometime I feel like dicking around and doing LAV laps...
Also, I never said I don't agree with the OP, people going 0-90 is just bad... but no player can do anything about it. Only CCP can
Moral of the story, if there's someone dicking around in pubs and you're going uber try-hard against all odds, that's at your own risk. If that floats your boat, fine, just leave others' boat alone.
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Posted - 2015.02.18 22:22:00 -
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P14GU3 wrote:Exactly. If you want to fck around, go play GTAV. Its great for that, just watch some vids on youtube. Most players don't play FacWar or PC, so pubs are the only place they can play the game as it was intended. This is why I used to rage about AFK, it completly ruins the experience for others. If you are jacking in the red line, or running LoLMeleeSentinalFit, you are ruining the fun for someone else. And your lolgitgud attitude is ruining their fun... See where the irony is involved?
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Posted - 2015.02.18 22:59:00 -
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Thumb Green wrote:It was when I originally asked why play a competitive game when you don't want to be competitive. Passive way of telling you to go play a non-competitive game. Psssh... Sorry, didn't realize I had to play competitively.
Don't worry, I'm only doing this for the sake of argument. I like arguing the hard part, it's better than being a conformist most of the time.
I could turn around and say what you guys have been saying. But here are some points to REALLY consider:
Against derping around: 1. You can't run **** fits and be competitive 2. This game is a competitive game 3. You're ruining my fun
For derping around: 1. You can be competitive and run shitfits 2. This game is not necessarily a competitive game. 3. What's the point of the game if not to have fun
Now, some points to remember, winning isn't always fun, and being competitive isn't always either. Also, if they're dicking around in the redline, they won't go 0-20. If it really was a close game and you lost because someone was dicking around, is it really that much of a loss? You had a good game, had a good score, and probably had some fun. The only people who would not agree with this last part are those who a. care too much about K/D, or b. were like those who thought it was a good idea for the "call for help" function to be implemented in a team based game.
Also, how can you say Dust is a competitive game at this point when most games are extremely one sided
I assure you 90% of the time it isn't because of some dudes in the redline derping around.
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Posted - 2015.02.18 23:31:00 -
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Mejt0 wrote:I wasn't talking about dicking around in my first post . I was talking about players who go 0/20 cuz they act dumb. Spawning just to die. This can't be fun. Cuz they are not doing anything else other than dying. I know you weren't, and I agree with you, it should not happen...
But as I said, can't no player do nuthin, only CCP.
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Posted - 2015.02.18 23:47:00 -
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Thumb Green wrote:I'm really starting to think you and I are arguing slightly different things. One of the first things I said was "I'm not saying you can't play to have fun". You can run dipshit lol fits all day long and still put in a slight bit of effort towards winning the match. You can still race your little tin cans around the map as you hack objectives but if all you want to do is race, go play Forza. I'm not asking people to follow me into hell, I'm just asking for a little bit of damn effort. Being competitive doesn't mean you're playing like an "MLG" player and going balls to the walls about it. It just means you're putting in some kind of effort towards the win.
I can say dust is a competitive game because every mode it has is designed for one team to compete against another team. Matches are so one-sided because of the "I got mine" attitude I mentioned earlier. The vast majority of my matches I see good players on both sides but only see one of the sides actually push for the win while the other side's good players are just doing what they can to get as many points for themselves. And I get that. However, would you REALLY appreciate if all someone did was hack one point, only to have it counter hacked?
I totally see your side of the argument, but what I am trying to get at is when can I have a break? I think most other games have some game mode that is purely for lolz.
In Dust, you have to go through a ton of effort to get your lolz. I am probably taking this too far, as I know that nobody exclusively plays Dust for LAV racing and the sort, but still. Also, you can't run lolfits without trying to put in some effort. You'd have to kill people in melee or PLC fits to succeed, in which case you are doing something. The only activity that I could understand is LAV racing, as nothing gets done towards the win from that.
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Posted - 2015.02.18 23:51:00 -
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Thumb Green wrote:LUGMOS wrote:I totally see your side of the argument, but what I am trying to get at is when can I have a break? I think most other games have some game mode that is purely for lolz. When they introduce PvE. SoonGäó
And then it won't be for loling around
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