No. Never.

Turrets need to just be removed, at least the ones in the redline.

Broken as in having to shoot 10 m behind target to hit, I'm not talking about anticipation of where target will be, but the constant back and forth breaks something... easiest thing to do is not move turret and let nitro tank drive into shot, but for me at least I end up having to guess which vector in time the other tank exists. Much easier to hit other tanks while using nitro personally.

It was like that at one point. But just like your PC crowd you kinda had to have been there and if you didn't bring your proto you'd get face rolled and fleet fights would happen in the air above out matches.

Again, destroying a tank in 4 volleys is overkill.

You had shield, I vaporized an armor with a weapon that has a bonus against armor, along with a flat 10% damage bonus.

You do realize that I pilot right. I've been with several top corps and my prowess has always been appreciated and needed. I'm typically a first pick for PC teams.

I know my stuff. And above all I want a well balanced and challenging end game. No I don't want infantry AV to hold the advantage over a tank, and I seriously don't think breaking wants that either.

Above all we want and expect a challenge. You always revert back to how tanks were when tanks were OP and blame AV for being unable to kill a tank and the cause for how tanks are now. Things were balanced heavily to the tank side and I'm sorry fella, that isn't right.

I would love to play in the same pubs as you Pokey, I have a fit near 10k ehp currently that often pops in 4 seconds fully hardened. So excited to dump another 10 million sp into vehicles so i can tank that extra forge blast before the militia swarms pop me. Lol @ 1 Hardener.

Tanks without nitro will be terrible unless they have over 20k ehp. Otherwise I will need to find whatever server you are on that only has one red berry that ever uses AV.

Balancing tanks around ONE AV player crippling a tank with ONE clip is rediculous.

Gee that sounds super complicated, tanks go backwards?


On a serious note, AV infantry sometimes wait till you drive past them to step out of a building, sometimes there two behind you, sometimes they have friends up on towers.. try coming out of your redline now and then on north American servers.

I was thinking more......drive away through a clear escape route you left yourself and was not too far from?...... I've been driving all morning and seen some really nasty AV combinations..... and just reversed away.

That's not to hard is it?

But you would not.

You are already complaining about getting 3 AV to combat a 3man HAV.

Takahiro let me summarize every argument you and spkr have made.

"Golly, I can't wait for fragmented missiles so I can efficiently kill some infantry"

Rather frequently combined with "It is inherently unfair that infantry AV can 1v1 tanks."

Translation: "Y'all crops are gettin' awfully uppity about this here harvest day thing."

You want the ability to slaughter infantry with efficiency, but do not want said victims to be able to fight back with any semblance of efficiency.
you argue that three bpdies in a tank, two of which provide another 100-150% effective firepower should allow you to be invulnerable to anything but three AV when the defensive capacity of the HAV DOES NOT CHANGE.

You are also both historically the loudest haters of people defiling your tanks by climbing aboard, have flat out said that unless you have twice and more the EHP of a main battle tank in a marauder that it is pointless to use, at that point are you ever, at all interested in anything resembling balance?

Every argument the two of you have made is in summation when looked at as a whole:

I want tanks to be invulnerable EZ Mode.

You want the ability to kill and destroy everything on field. But if the crops you're farming are able to kill back it's unfair.

So tell me, oh wise one.

Exactly when does anything resembling "balance" come into play? Because from closed beta to today, every single post from Red Star on the topic of AV/V and vehicle balance has been "I pay ISK, and in return I expect to be immune to retaliation."

Never gonna happen.

I've confirmed that Breakin has actually Piloted vehicles of all kinds (well, not sure about a ADS).

Also, he is on the receiving end of a HAV a lot.

AND He is saying that on a balanced field (ex. PROTO to PROTO), iirc will take at least iirc 13-16 seconds for the TTK for AV, which is ample time to escape, at least that's what he feels is balanced, in which I agree.

You can stop berating his motives and his character, and instead focus on what he is saying. You are acting like racists act. Instead of judging people on what they do and say, you simply are quick to turn whatever they say down, simply because you believe them to be inferior to you. That is silly. Stop it.

Pretty much. I miss the days where it took experience to properly maintain your modules and cycle them constantly.

So do I. Sooner or later EVERYONE makes mistakes during a battle.

So do I. Sooner or later EVERYONE makes mistakes during a battle.

Actually Phase 2

https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=2583382#post2583382

No that is not vehicle qq,..that is I got killed by a forge gun/rail turrent!!! My KD!!


Nerf nerf nerf nerf

chrome got killed. Devs decided to say no. get over it.