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DUST Fiend
Molon Labe.
General Tso's Alliance
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Posted - 2015.02.15 18:40:00 -
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If we must keep this redline mechanic, then can we pleaaaassseeee get the redline timer fixed?
Its infuriating watching my dropship exlode half a meter from the end of the redline...with 7 seconds left on the clock....
All im asking for is an accurate representation of the time left in the redline, so I can respond accordingly.
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Buwaro Draemon
WarRavens
Capital Punishment.
1025
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Posted - 2015.02.15 18:55:00 -
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Ya' know. You are not even supposed to be inside the redline.
Changes to Damage mods!
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DUST Fiend
Molon Labe.
General Tso's Alliance
15772
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Posted - 2015.02.15 19:04:00 -
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Buwaro Draemon wrote:Ya' know. You are not even supposed to be inside the redline.
Then why dont things instantly disintegrate upon touching it?
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Mexxx Dust-Slayer
Fatal Absolution
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Posted - 2015.02.15 19:40:00 -
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DUST Fiend wrote:If we must keep this redline mechanic, then can we pleaaaassseeee get the redline timer fixed?
Its infuriating watching my dropship explode half a meter from the end of the redline...with 7 seconds left on the clock....
All im asking for is an accurate representation of the time left in the redline, so I can respond accordingly.
Hmm, maybe the cost of snipers should get bumped up a couple hundred thousand isk since we're wasting more assets trying to get those cowards killed |
DUST Fiend
Molon Labe.
General Tso's Alliance
15774
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Posted - 2015.02.15 20:27:00 -
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Mexxx Dust-Slayer wrote:DUST Fiend wrote:If we must keep this redline mechanic, then can we pleaaaassseeee get the redline timer fixed?
Its infuriating watching my dropship explode half a meter from the end of the redline...with 7 seconds left on the clock....
All im asking for is an accurate representation of the time left in the redline, so I can respond accordingly. Hmm, maybe the cost of snipers should get bumped up a couple hundred thousand isk since we're wasting more assets trying to get those cowards killed
Not sure what you're getting at
Im an AV incubus. I chase redline tankers when I know I have the time remaining to kill them as they flee into their safety bubble.
My issue is timers saying 18 seconds when they really mean 11
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Juno Tristan
Obscure Reference
370
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Posted - 2015.02.15 21:08:00 -
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DUST Fiend wrote:Buwaro Draemon wrote:Ya' know. You are not even supposed to be inside the redline. Then why dont things instantly disintegrate upon touching it?
Don't tell atiim, exploding with 5 secs on the clock serves me right for going into the redline (despite the fact maps are smaller and the redline is larger these days)
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DUST Fiend
Molon Labe.
General Tso's Alliance
15774
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Posted - 2015.02.15 21:43:00 -
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Juno Tristan wrote:DUST Fiend wrote:Buwaro Draemon wrote:Ya' know. You are not even supposed to be inside the redline. Then why dont things instantly disintegrate upon touching it? Don't tell atiim, exploding with 5 secs on the clock serves me right for going into the redline (despite the fact maps are smaller and the redline is larger these days)
I dont believe in tanks being invulnerable thanks to some arbitrary line drawn in the sand, so unfortunately I cant share your same acceptance.
If I have 11 seconds, tell me I have 11. If I have 3, tell me I have 3. I despise the redline mechanic, but at the very least I wish it wasnt such a damn liar.
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Lavallois Nash
Federal Transfers and Trades
491
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Posted - 2015.02.15 22:01:00 -
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The timer starts the moment you cross the line. Except, if you go in with your ADS full throttle with the afterburners on and everything, you are going to rocket right past the line, and by the time the game draws the countdown clock, you've actually already spent x amount of time in, which doesn't show on the clock.
Sometimes I go red line hunting too, so Ive seen the timer behave like this. But I mean, anytime I go into a redline, Im 90% expecting that I could lose what I went in with, especially if i push the point of no return. |
Nothing Certain
Bioshock Rejects
1529
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Posted - 2015.02.16 00:16:00 -
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DUST Fiend wrote:Mexxx Dust-Slayer wrote:DUST Fiend wrote:If we must keep this redline mechanic, then can we pleaaaassseeee get the redline timer fixed?
Its infuriating watching my dropship explode half a meter from the end of the redline...with 7 seconds left on the clock....
All im asking for is an accurate representation of the time left in the redline, so I can respond accordingly. Hmm, maybe the cost of snipers should get bumped up a couple hundred thousand isk since we're wasting more assets trying to get those cowards killed Not sure what you're getting at Im an AV incubus. I chase redline tankers when I know I have the time remaining to kill them as they flee into their safety bubble. My issue is timers saying 18 seconds when they really mean 11
I was going to make a comment about not hoing into the redline, then I saw "tankers". Carry on.
Because, that's why.
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Tesfa Alem
Death by Disassociation
847
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Posted - 2015.02.16 00:41:00 -
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Agreed. The broken timer is a glitch, it should be fixed.
Expanding the redline on many maps forces dropships to go in an out of the redline, even if just performong evansive manuevers. I would much rather have the redine pushed back far enough where siting on it, or the edge is too far for redline players affect an part of the fight. That would be roughly 300+ meters from either the closest objective, or the main objective.
But thats just a dream. Fixing the glicth though, that would be very useful.
Redline for Thee, but no Redline for Me.
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DUST Fiend
Molon Labe.
General Tso's Alliance
15778
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Posted - 2015.02.16 04:19:00 -
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Lavallois Nash wrote:The timer starts the moment you cross the line. Except, if you go in with your ADS full throttle with the afterburners on and everything, you are going to rocket right past the line, and by the time the game draws the countdown clock, you've actually already spent x amount of time in, which doesn't show on the clock.
Sometimes I go red line hunting too, so Ive seen the timer behave like this. But I mean, anytime I go into a redline, Im 90% expecting that I could lose what I went in with, especially if i push the point of no return.
This is actually the best explanation ive heard, though it does still seem inconsistent, because sometimes I get down to the last few milliseconds and survive, and other times its the 5 to 8 seconds. If all goes well ill be able to record again sometime this week, and ill make sure to scour my footage for any instances of this, to better analyze whats up.
Like I said though, your explanation makes the most sense so far, other than it being straight up glitched. I always assume ill lose my ship the moment I hear thst idiot rdv coming down with my ISK. I too expect to lose my ship in the redline, it just never fails to frustrate when that timer lies.
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THUNDERGROOVE
Fatal Absolution
1491
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Posted - 2015.02.16 05:50:00 -
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DUST Fiend wrote:
Not sure what you're getting at
Im an AV incubus. I chase redline tankers when I know I have the time remaining to kill them as they flee into their safety bubble.
My issue is timers saying 18 seconds when they really mean 11
The timer is accurate if you're not scanned and the enemies don't hack anything 
The timer, visually, is client side while the server still dictates how long until you die. If something uses the same mechanic to render text in the same spot as the redline counter, I assume it "fights" for ticks and a such gets out of sync with the server.
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CCP Rattati
C C P
C C P Alliance
17481
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Posted - 2015.02.16 06:55:00 -
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DUST Fiend wrote:Juno Tristan wrote:DUST Fiend wrote:Buwaro Draemon wrote:Ya' know. You are not even supposed to be inside the redline. Then why dont things instantly disintegrate upon touching it? Don't tell atiim, exploding with 5 secs on the clock serves me right for going into the redline (despite the fact maps are smaller and the redline is larger these days) I dont believe in tanks being invulnerable thanks to some arbitrary line drawn in the sand, so unfortunately I cant share your same acceptance. If I have 11 seconds, tell me I have 11. If I have 3, tell me I have 3. I despise the redline mechanic, but at the very least I wish it wasnt such a damn liar.
can I please get a video of this, it has never been properly replicated
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Vesta Opalus
T.H.I.R.D R.O.C.K
RISE of LEGION
429
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Posted - 2015.02.16 07:08:00 -
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CCP Rattati wrote:DUST Fiend wrote:Juno Tristan wrote:DUST Fiend wrote:Buwaro Draemon wrote:Ya' know. You are not even supposed to be inside the redline. Then why dont things instantly disintegrate upon touching it? Don't tell atiim, exploding with 5 secs on the clock serves me right for going into the redline (despite the fact maps are smaller and the redline is larger these days) I dont believe in tanks being invulnerable thanks to some arbitrary line drawn in the sand, so unfortunately I cant share your same acceptance. If I have 11 seconds, tell me I have 11. If I have 3, tell me I have 3. I despise the redline mechanic, but at the very least I wish it wasnt such a damn liar. can I please get a video of this, it has never been properly replicated
Died today with 6 seconds left on the timer :(
Sadly I dont have video capture. |
voidfaction
Nos Nothi
1139
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Posted - 2015.02.16 07:33:00 -
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This happens to me often as I like going in and killing the redline snipers.
I have no trouble reproducing the glitch as I go in and out of the redline.
First time in the counter is right but after coming out and going back in is when it seems to glitch.
Never had problems on first entry but not saying it can't happen. |
Juno Tristan
Obscure Reference
370
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Posted - 2015.02.16 07:43:00 -
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CCP Rattati wrote:DUST Fiend wrote:Juno Tristan wrote:DUST Fiend wrote:Buwaro Draemon wrote:Ya' know. You are not even supposed to be inside the redline. Then why dont things instantly disintegrate upon touching it? Don't tell atiim, exploding with 5 secs on the clock serves me right for going into the redline (despite the fact maps are smaller and the redline is larger these days) I dont believe in tanks being invulnerable thanks to some arbitrary line drawn in the sand, so unfortunately I cant share your same acceptance. If I have 11 seconds, tell me I have 11. If I have 3, tell me I have 3. I despise the redline mechanic, but at the very least I wish it wasnt such a damn liar. can I please get a video of this, it has never been properly replicated
Beaten by the redline bug
Edit btw its a client side bug as you can time it to the video that I explode after spending 20 seconds in the redline, but the timer on screen is still showing I've got 5 secs left
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Breakin Stuff
Goonfeet
Special Planetary Emergency Response Group
7225
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Posted - 2015.02.16 07:47:00 -
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CCP Rattati wrote:DUST Fiend wrote:Juno Tristan wrote:DUST Fiend wrote:Buwaro Draemon wrote:Ya' know. You are not even supposed to be inside the redline. Then why dont things instantly disintegrate upon touching it? Don't tell atiim, exploding with 5 secs on the clock serves me right for going into the redline (despite the fact maps are smaller and the redline is larger these days) I dont believe in tanks being invulnerable thanks to some arbitrary line drawn in the sand, so unfortunately I cant share your same acceptance. If I have 11 seconds, tell me I have 11. If I have 3, tell me I have 3. I despise the redline mechanic, but at the very least I wish it wasnt such a damn liar. can I please get a video of this, it has never been properly replicated
It's a lag issue I'm guessing. If you're sitting on the server the odds of being affected are nil.
This only happens to me when the framerate problems start spiking and the rubber banding begins. But it happens. I've been killed by the redline at 5 seconds. I've also gotten out three seconds after tge time clock runs out.
Everything I have seen points to lag and a position desync beybetween client and server.
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DUST Fiend
Molon Labe.
General Tso's Alliance
15781
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Posted - 2015.02.16 08:26:00 -
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CCP Rattati wrote:DUST Fiend wrote:Juno Tristan wrote:DUST Fiend wrote:Buwaro Draemon wrote:Ya' know. You are not even supposed to be inside the redline. Then why dont things instantly disintegrate upon touching it? Don't tell atiim, exploding with 5 secs on the clock serves me right for going into the redline (despite the fact maps are smaller and the redline is larger these days) I dont believe in tanks being invulnerable thanks to some arbitrary line drawn in the sand, so unfortunately I cant share your same acceptance. If I have 11 seconds, tell me I have 11. If I have 3, tell me I have 3. I despise the redline mechanic, but at the very least I wish it wasnt such a damn liar. can I please get a video of this, it has never been properly replicated
Im trying to fix my pc as fast as I can so I can startrecording again. This has been an ongoing thing for so long now lol. Im not wxactly made of ISK so I cant just sit there and test it, but if it happens and im recording, ill share it.
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Tosh Vorkuta
Negative-Feedback.
Negative-Feedback
5
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Posted - 2015.02.16 10:43:00 -
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it usually happens to me if i get scanned while in the redline. the redline timer and scan notice overlap and the redline timer seems to be reseting(just visually) |
Finn Colman
Immortal Guides
Learning Alliance
145
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Posted - 2015.02.16 12:25:00 -
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Just to be clear to the Devs, it happens on foot as well.
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gauntlet44 LbowDeep
Heaven84 Devils
General Tso's Alliance
211
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Posted - 2015.02.16 17:32:00 -
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voidfaction wrote:This happens to me often as I like going in and killing the redline snipers.
I have no trouble reproducing the glitch as I go in and out of the redline.
First time in the counter is right but after coming out and going back in is when it seems to glitch.
Never had problems on first entry but not saying it can't happen.
the only time it has happened to me, i hacked a turret close to the red line
and turned around to sprint the ten meters back.
died one meter from coming out of the red line with seven seconds left.
first time in the red line that game. but i got my 11th hack and my five keys so i really didnt mind.
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Juno Tristan
Obscure Reference
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Posted - 2015.02.19 02:43:00 -
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So... Is this likely to get fixed?
Because given the introduction of the small maps and redrawn battlegrounds I find myself having to use the redline more and more.
I would like a review of the whole redline mechanic (for example by adding different tier zones kind of like the changes to passive scan range)
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EET SUM MOR
Fraternity of St. Venefice
Amarr Empire
9
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Posted - 2015.02.19 10:33:00 -
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I can confirm this issue since closed beta |
Slave of MORTE
Eyniletti Rangers
Minmatar Republic
306
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Posted - 2015.02.19 13:42:00 -
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CCP Rattati wrote:DUST Fiend wrote:Juno Tristan wrote:DUST Fiend wrote:Buwaro Draemon wrote:Ya' know. You are not even supposed to be inside the redline. Then why dont things instantly disintegrate upon touching it? Don't tell atiim, exploding with 5 secs on the clock serves me right for going into the redline (despite the fact maps are smaller and the redline is larger these days) I dont believe in tanks being invulnerable thanks to some arbitrary line drawn in the sand, so unfortunately I cant share your same acceptance. If I have 11 seconds, tell me I have 11. If I have 3, tell me I have 3. I despise the redline mechanic, but at the very least I wish it wasnt such a damn liar. can I please get a video of this, it has never been properly replicated
Are you serious this happens to me at least once a day
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Slave of MORTE
Eyniletti Rangers
Minmatar Republic
306
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Posted - 2015.02.19 13:43:00 -
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voidfaction wrote:This happens to me often as I like going in and killing the redline snipers.
I have no trouble reproducing the glitch as I go in and out of the redline.
First time in the counter is right but after coming out and going back in is when it seems to glitch.
Never had problems on first entry but not saying it can't happen.
I agree it's caused by repeatedly crossing into redline zone ..sometimes the timer even stays up after your out if the redline and kills you ...it starts flickering
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Mossellia Delt
Militaires Sans Jeux
2302
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Posted - 2015.02.19 17:31:00 -
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CCP Rattati wrote:DUST Fiend wrote:Juno Tristan wrote:DUST Fiend wrote:Buwaro Draemon wrote:Ya' know. You are not even supposed to be inside the redline. Then why dont things instantly disintegrate upon touching it? Don't tell atiim, exploding with 5 secs on the clock serves me right for going into the redline (despite the fact maps are smaller and the redline is larger these days) I dont believe in tanks being invulnerable thanks to some arbitrary line drawn in the sand, so unfortunately I cant share your same acceptance. If I have 11 seconds, tell me I have 11. If I have 3, tell me I have 3. I despise the redline mechanic, but at the very least I wish it wasnt such a damn liar. can I please get a video of this, it has never been properly replicated
I'm now convinced CCP can't test this game properly. This is a constant problem caused by server side lag which I guess never affects you guys.
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TooMany Names AlreadyTaken
Going for the gold
752
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Posted - 2015.02.19 19:54:00 -
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Redline should be death in 5 seconds. People can overstomp a team even in their "safe zone" and it feels unfair, really.
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KEROSIINI-TERO
The Rainbow Effect
1779
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Posted - 2015.02.19 21:13:00 -
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Juno Tristan wrote:Beaten by the redline bugEdit btw its a client side bug as you can time it to the video that I explode after spending 20 seconds in the redline, but the timer on screen is still showing I've got 5 secs left
That is an awesome presentation.
True, death happens on 20 seconds into the redline.
Funnily enough, the timer starts reasonably on time with entering - so the timer isn't either showing actual seconds or takes steps back.
Ahh the inertial dampeners are back to normal! ^ ^
Thank you.
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Juno Tristan
Obscure Reference
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Posted - 2015.02.20 00:58:00 -
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TooMany Names AlreadyTaken wrote:Redline should be death in 5 seconds. People can overstomp a team even in their "safe zone" and it feels unfair, really.
But given the current small maps and large redline it's difficult not to go in the redline using a Dropship
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KEROSIINI-TERO
The Rainbow Effect
1780
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Posted - 2015.02.20 10:18:00 -
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TooMany Names AlreadyTaken wrote:Redline should be death in 5 seconds. People can overstomp a team even in their "safe zone" and it feels unfair, really.
Nah, the redline is deep enough.
the timer makes it so that your own home redline is progressively safer the further in you are,
and progressively more dangerous the closer you are to the edge.
The safety is not on/off which is a good thing.
Ahh the inertial dampeners are back to normal! ^ ^
Thank you.
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KEROSIINI-TERO
The Rainbow Effect
1780
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Posted - 2015.02.20 10:19:00 -
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TooMany Names AlreadyTaken wrote:Redline should be death in 5 seconds. People can overstomp a team even in their "safe zone" and it feels unfair, really.
Instead of 'overstomping' (which sometimes is the case) I'd use the more general term 'Redline Raiding'.
Ahh the inertial dampeners are back to normal! ^ ^
Thank you.
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Bjorn Retribution
Red and Silver Hand
Amarr Empire
0
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Posted - 2015.02.20 13:16:00 -
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Happens to me multiple times a day on foot.
Im generally using a cloak in and out of the redline if that could be a factor.
I usually die with around 7 seconds left on timer.
Another problem i find is that the displayed timer on the screen usually continues counting down when i leave the redline, and then doesn't reset when reentering the redline.
An example would be i stay in the redline the first time until there are 10 seconds left on the counter.
I leave the redline.... but it seems to continues to count down.
Then i reenter the reline at 8 seconds.
The 8 seconds count down to 0. But i dont die, as the wrong timer is being displayed.
And then im running around the redline with what is displayed as 0 seconds when i actually have more/
So then i have to just guess how long i have left before i need to leave once again.
Some times though that problem corrects itself and when it gets to 0 seconds it will instant update to however many seconds are left on the new timer which hadn't been displayed, and say 9 seconds for example.
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