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Big miku
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Posted - 2015.02.15 21:25:00 -
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lol, scout thread is turning into a heavy thread.
Also, you nerds know that the heavy spent a little under HALF is ammo to kill you at 30+m if you are moving?
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Big miku
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Posted - 2015.02.15 22:15:00 -
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Operative 1174 Uuali wrote:The nature of the game requiring you to be within 30 meters to get anything done? Heavies OP due to this requirement.
That means Scouts are the most powerful class, cause you have to get within 1 meter to hack an objective, prefect range for a Nova Knife.
Nope, Heavies are fine, the problem is Assaults that think they should be allowed to effortlessly 1v1 every suit in the game. |
Big miku
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Posted - 2015.02.15 23:07:00 -
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Mex-0 wrote:Nah, heavies melt anything within 50 meters with those water sprinkler guns. If I can go 32/7 in a MLT amarr heavy frame, something's not right.
Prove that claim.
I keep seeing people claim heavies destroy suits at ranges greater than 30+ but no one has yet to prove that a heavy can simply pint and click at a moving target 30+ away and kill them with out using 80% of their magazine.
The argument that "well I did good with X so it is OP" is not a solid argument.
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Big miku
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Posted - 2015.02.16 00:00:00 -
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gustavo acosta wrote:When something meant for point defense can reach the same range as a rifle there's an issue.
Prove that the HMG can kill a Full HP Proto Assault on the move at Rifle range without using every round in its magazine or over heating
Rifle range is 40-70 meters.
The Bolt pistol and Flaylock have longer range than the HMG. No one said the HMG was meant for "point defense" you're type casting a weapon based on what you want it to be. In fact the weapons very description mentions "pinpoint stream of gunfire with unmatched killing potential."
IT is as if people have forgotten way back when they nerfed the HMGs damage to 11 a round at proto level and it became useless. |
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Posted - 2015.02.16 16:25:00 -
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jane stalin wrote:I think they need a slight buff I find them easier to kill and I am scrub player, if I find you easy to kill then you need a buff
The scout has very low HP, of course it is easy to kill. The play style of the Scout is very different from every other suit. |
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Posted - 2015.02.17 15:02:00 -
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gustavo acosta wrote:Templar XIII wrote:analogy. A proto sentinel covers 30m effectively with dps of 6,037hp clip, no amount heat build up stops the sentinel from using that 6,037 hp clip to its full extent. Any scout that dedictates itself to E-war will be killed 30 times over with the clip. Running away isn't an option because a scout or any other suit has to get 50 m away from said heavy within a second,which is impossible especially with TTK that is less than a second long.
You forget one MAJOR fact.
At least 30% of rounds fired by the HMG at ranges past 5m will ALWAYS miss..
You also forget to adjust for damage drop off, which is huge on the HMG once you go past 20m.
The shotgun has a shorter TTK
As do Knives
as does Scrambler Rifles and the ASR |
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Posted - 2015.02.17 16:02:00 -
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gustavo acosta wrote:There is no drop off damage in Dust 514.
I am now disregarding everything you say. |
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