No need to tweak range. No need to tweak damage. No need to increase Rate of Fire, reduce dispersion, change damage profiles, or anything of the sort. Nope, none of those.

Bring back the bullet slow down effect. For the AR only.

Sounds profound doesn't it? Until you consider that it's a CQC weapon, where mobility matters a hell of a lot more than with weapons designed for longer ranges. You consider it's competition: The Shotgun which has high enough Alpha that it doesn't matter anyway, and the HMG which has a high enough DPS that it doesn't matter.

So who really gets hurt by an Assault Rifle which does exactly what it did before everyone wigged out about it a few builds ago? The people it's designed to hurt: Anyone within Optimal Range.

You can do a lot of things in designing a multiplayer FPS, but messing with player hands-on control of their character is just.....

In WOW, sure a slowdown effect is great. In single player shooters it might be ok too, not sure.

But here in our pvp-only game, it's contrary to the reason peeps are attracted to FPS in the first place: this is a skill contest. Anything that interferes with that, like say poor controls, sticky terrain, tacnet omniscience, proto contact grenades, explosive spam, low ttk, 'safety' inertia dampers, unearned sp/wp, etc., etc., etc......will be unwelcome.

So, in brief, although slowdown would make the AR a fearsome weapon, as an addition to the gameplay experience of DUST....it sucks.

Go die in a hole... multiple times.... With no weapon surrounded by dirty logi needles.

Probably wouldn't "call for help" anyway

First logical argument I've seen in this entire thread. Thank you, Vrain.

Now, that being said, if higher DPS is off the table (because no-one wants that, apparently), higher range is off the table, and slow-down effect is off the table, what can be done to make the Assault Rifle more powerful in it's environment and an actual competitor against the weapons in said environment? What sets it apart as unique apart from marginally higher DPS than other assault variants and how can we exploit that uniqueness? What can we do to make the Assault Rifle a genuine king in the CQC department that other rifles (at the very least) won't be able to match up to?

The most used modules in this game are HP modules and you want to punish speed and movement, sounds legit, this game clearly needs more brick tanking.-

If there were modules that increased strafe seed or base movement speed, HP modules would go the way of the disnosaur.
Speed is broken right now, so yeah, it does need to be nerfed, but not like this.

If there were modules that increased strafe seed or base movement speed, HP modules would go the way of the disnosaur.
Speed is broken right now, so yeah, it does need to be nerfed, but not like this.

Make a valid point or dont respond at all, its easy to throw "what if" into any topic and make some kind of sense.-

You don't make a valid point either.

HP modules being popular is hardly indicative that HP is too high.
It is only indicative that they are the best modules and that they provide the most tangible and immediate benefits to the users.

Speed is still broken though. Strafing, in particular. This matrix bullet "dodging" isn't helping this game at all.
I'd personally like a 20% across the board nerf to strafing, for everyone.

Lol, the hilarity of this.

When the movement speed was buffed exponentially back in 1.4/1.5 everyone loved it, I was the only guy who ever complained about it (and I can pull forum threads as proof) and literally everyone flipped their ****.

Almost two years later and now everyone's wanting the movement speed dropped again.

You people don't know what the hell you want.

You don't make a valid point either.

HP modules being popular is hardly indicative that HP is too high.
It is only indicative that they are the best modules and that they provide the most tangible and immediate benefits to the users.

Speed is still broken though. Strafing, in particular. This matrix bullet "dodging" isn't helping this game at all, and if anything, I'd say it's harming it, as player frustrations with it just keep mounting.

I'd personally like a 20% across the board nerf to strafing, for everyone.
That would put a Minscout at about the strafing speed of Caldari and Gallente Assaults, and the speed would fall all the way to the Amarr Sentinel, just like it does, but 20% less overall.

I was actually pretty neutral about it back then, because it didn't actually manifest itself as a problem after the Scout buff and subsequent Assault buff, both of which were extremely favorable for speed based suits(which I consider to be everything faster than and including the Minassault).
I didn't see over a year into the meta, sue me.

I didn't know that wiggle strafing and bullet dodging would become so rampantly popular.

But its not Movement Speed thats the problem. Its the strafe speed multiplier that is causing issues. iirc, the multiplier is .75%, and I'd personally like to see it bumped down to .60%