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sir RAVEN WING
Horizons' Edge
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Posted - 2015.02.13 02:30:00 -
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Simple question, my opinion is yes... Well at the ADV level. ![Evil](https://forums.dust514.com/Images/Emoticons/ccp_evil.png)
Quoth the Raven "Nevermore!" - Edgar Allan Poe
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Darken-Soul
BIG BAD W0LVES
2031
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Posted - 2015.02.13 02:33:00 -
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They are powerful. The recoil is redic. Watch the kill feed. Most kills come from combat rifles
Who wants some?
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Joel II X
Bacon with a bottle of Quafe
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Posted - 2015.02.13 02:33:00 -
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Nah. It's not overpowered in my opinion, but neither is it under-.
Rattati did a pretty damn good job, along with the community, on balancing these things. |
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davis fritz
Subsonic Synthesis RISE of LEGION
56
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Posted - 2015.02.13 02:38:00 -
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Joel II X wrote:Nah. It's not overpowered in my opinion, but neither is it under-.
Rattati did a pretty damn good job, along with the community, on balancing these things.
Truth
I fucking Love/Hate this game
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G Felix
Terminus Defense Force
585
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Posted - 2015.02.13 02:41:00 -
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RR and ARR feel balanced to me. CR's potential imbalance seems to lie in the especially low fitting requirements. The fits you can build around them are potent to say the least.
Dust can be frustrating. (Gò»°Gûí°)Gò»n+¦ Gö+GöüGö+)
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P14GU3
Savage Bullet
1238
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Posted - 2015.02.13 03:00:00 -
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Put out the same dps at 80m as they do as 8m. Not overpowered at all ![Roll](https://forums.dust514.com/Images/Emoticons/ccp_roll.png)
'Sault AK.0 - Logi AK.0 - Logi GK.0 - Scout GK.0 - 'Mando MK.0 - Masshole in every sense of the word.
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Tiny Pineapple
Corrosive Synergy
62
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Posted - 2015.02.13 03:10:00 -
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P14GU3 wrote:Put out the same dps at 80m as they do as 8m. Not overpowered at all ![Roll](https://forums.dust514.com/Images/Emoticons/ccp_roll.png) The Scrambler does the same DPS at 90m as they do as 8m.
Have you even used the dam thing? It's impossible to reliably hit someone at 60m because it kicks like a mule.
Half of what I say is sarcasm. Don't take me too seriously.
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J0LLY R0G3R
And the ButtPirates
2111
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Posted - 2015.02.13 04:08:00 -
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I may be alone when I say this but I <3 the recoil on it. Feels like you are actually fighting the gun to finish that last little bit of armor the red dot used to have. XD
TLDR : XD
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CCP Rattati
C C P C C P Alliance
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Posted - 2015.02.13 04:09:00 -
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Maybe a tad
https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=191185&find=unread
"As well as stupid, Rattati is incredibly slow and accident-prone, and cannot even swim"
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JUDASisMYhomeboy
xCosmic Voidx
405
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Posted - 2015.02.13 04:36:00 -
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"In a world gone mad,only a lunatic is truly insane"
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P14GU3
Savage Bullet
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Posted - 2015.02.13 05:23:00 -
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Tiny Pineapple wrote:P14GU3 wrote:Put out the same dps at 80m as they do as 8m. Not overpowered at all ![Roll](https://forums.dust514.com/Images/Emoticons/ccp_roll.png) The Scrambler does the same DPS at 90m as they do as 8m. Have you even used the dam thing? It's impossible to reliably hit someone at 60m because it kicks like a mule. Yes I have proto'd every light weapon in the game. The ScR hardly hits over 60. With the sharpshooter on CR I can reach about the same range as a ScR. The ScR is a mid range weapon at best. I agree the hipfire is still a bit too good on ScR. The RR is the longest range rifle besides laser and sniper (which both suck at close range,) while the RR hipfires its way theough battles at any range. If you ADS with rail, you're doing it wrong.
'Sault AK.0 - Logi AK.0 - Logi GK.0 - Scout GK.0 - 'Mando MK.0 - Masshole in every sense of the word.
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Echo 1991
State of Purgatory General Tso's Alliance
718
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Posted - 2015.02.13 05:40:00 -
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Underused does not mean underpowered. While there can be a correlation between the 2 it may just be people prefer a variant or a gun to something else. You have to take that into account. |
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Echo 1991
State of Purgatory General Tso's Alliance
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Posted - 2015.02.13 05:42:00 -
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P14GU3 wrote:Tiny Pineapple wrote:P14GU3 wrote:Put out the same dps at 80m as they do as 8m. Not overpowered at all ![Roll](https://forums.dust514.com/Images/Emoticons/ccp_roll.png) The Scrambler does the same DPS at 90m as they do as 8m. Have you even used the dam thing? It's impossible to reliably hit someone at 60m because it kicks like a mule. Yes I have proto'd every light weapon in the game. The ScR hardly hits over 60. With the sharpshooter on CR I can reach about the same range as a ScR. The ScR is a mid range weapon at best. I agree the hipfire is still a bit too good on ScR. The RR is the longest range rifle besides laser and sniper (which both suck at close range,) while the RR hipfires its way theough battles at any range. If you ADS with rail, you're doing it wrong. Sharpshooter doesnt increase range and CR optimal is around 50-65m anyway |
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Leadfoot10
Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance
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Posted - 2015.02.13 06:02:00 -
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P14GU3 wrote:If you ADS with rail, you're doing it wrong.
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Leadfoot10
Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance
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Posted - 2015.02.13 06:03:00 -
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CR & ACR looks moreso, no?
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Tectonic Fusion
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Posted - 2015.02.13 06:40:00 -
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Leadfoot10 wrote:P14GU3 wrote:If you ADS with rail, you're doing it wrong. ![Shocked](https://forums.dust514.com/Images/Emoticons/ccp_shocked.png) lol
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Cody Sietz
Random Gunz RISE of LEGION
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Posted - 2015.02.13 06:55:00 -
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Meh, all the rifles would be ok if they got a hard balance.
Like making the ScR and RR not good at close range.
"I do agree with you there though. shudders"
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Tectonic Fusion
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Posted - 2015.02.13 09:17:00 -
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Cody Sietz wrote:Meh, all the rifles would be ok if they got a hard balance.
Like making the ScR and RR not good at close range. I think they should just add dispersion. They are usable in CQC, but just not the best. Maybe even different headshot multipliers depending on the rifle. EDIT: I've been playing too much counter-strike lately...
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DeathwindRising
ROGUE RELICS VP Gaming Alliance
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Posted - 2015.02.13 09:51:00 -
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P14GU3 wrote:Put out the same dps at 80m as they do as 8m. Not overpowered at all ![Roll](https://forums.dust514.com/Images/Emoticons/ccp_roll.png)
so do:
forge guns
sniper rifles
scrambler rifles
mass drivers
so why single out the RR? |
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DeathwindRising
ROGUE RELICS VP Gaming Alliance
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Posted - 2015.02.13 09:54:00 -
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Tectonic Fusion wrote:Cody Sietz wrote:Meh, all the rifles would be ok if they got a hard balance.
Like making the ScR and RR not good at close range. I think they should just add dispersion. They are usable in CQC, but just not the best. Maybe even different headshot multipliers depending on the rifle. EDIT: I've been playing too much counter-strike lately...
id be ok with that if there was a legit way of keeping enemies at range. the ability to dampen and cloak makes it easier to close distance. along with kincats.
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LudiKure ninda
Dead Man's Game RUST415
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Posted - 2015.02.13 10:34:00 -
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OMG are you fckin serius?? SCR op, CR op and now RR op??
Have you even used RR? Up close hipfire is imposible,and long range,it kicks too much.
Stop ruining this game and GET GUD SKRUB!!!!!!![Evil](https://forums.dust514.com/Images/Emoticons/ccp_evil.png)
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Zindorak
Nyain Chan
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Posted - 2015.02.13 12:51:00 -
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Yas it is ARR is ridiculously good hold down R1 and watch people drop RR is still Good damage great range and the hipfire maybe bad however there is a sidearm for that reason
Pokemon master and Tekken Lord
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axis alpha
Ahrendee Mercenaries
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Posted - 2015.02.13 14:45:00 -
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RR yes, arr no.
I cut you up so bad.... You gonna wish I no cut you up so bad.
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GrimzOvaHourz
The Forgotten Spirits
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Posted - 2015.02.13 14:53:00 -
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Why would anyone think that when every other rifle is just as good if not more... We've never had so much balance in terms of rifles before, please don't mess up CCP and the data is not so meaningful as you think. |
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Ku Shala
UNITED MERCINARY AND PILOTS ALLIANCE
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Posted - 2015.02.13 14:57:00 -
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RR is close to balance but I would consider it the weakest of the 4 rifle variants and the weapon that the enemy always seems to get away with little armour left. It is the most inconsistent rifle to use. I am 5/5 in all except the scrambler that is 5/4 and is the most powerfull weapon even though I have the least skills in it.
-¦a+ó a+ú-Æa+äla+ä (CK-0 Specialist)
Caldari Loyalist
Superior technology will privale.
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CCP Rattati
C C P C C P Alliance
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Posted - 2015.02.13 15:13:00 -
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GrimzOvaHourz wrote:Why would anyone think that when every other rifle is just as good if not more... We've never had so much balance in terms of rifles before, please don't mess up CCP and the data is not so meaningful as you think. Balance was achieved by rigorous use of data and tactical changes, discussed with the community.
"As well as stupid, Rattati is incredibly slow and accident-prone, and cannot even swim"
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Michael Epic
Bragian Order Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2015.02.13 15:16:00 -
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CCP Rattati wrote:GrimzOvaHourz wrote:Why would anyone think that when every other rifle is just as good if not more... We've never had so much balance in terms of rifles before, please don't mess up CCP and the data is not so meaningful as you think. Balance was achieved by rigorous use of data and tactical changes, discussed with the community.
Is that why the Duvolle Assault Rifle is different now? In Uprising 1.6 that thing was a BEAST and it was unstoppable...but these days, its a relic. At least it FEELS like a relic. It doesn't seem to pack the same punch that it used too as opposed to some of the combat rifles and rail rifles |
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Heimdallr69
Negative-Feedback. Negative-Feedback
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Posted - 2015.02.13 15:22:00 -
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CCP Rattati wrote:GrimzOvaHourz wrote:Why would anyone think that when every other rifle is just as good if not more... We've never had so much balance in terms of rifles before, please don't mess up CCP and the data is not so meaningful as you think. Balance was achieved by rigorous use of data and tactical changes, discussed with the community. Well if any of the rifles are too "op" and need a fix how about the insta pop hmg? 1500hp constantly being farmed by logis, DMG resistance and puts out the most DMG... What is your stance on this one?
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7th Son 7
BLITZKRIEG7
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Posted - 2015.02.13 15:52:00 -
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It feels like the games in a good place, but either way. I'll still do as well as I do now, no matter what you nerf/buff. By the way, it's great watching players still freezing in a PC match! eg: Kill-Em-Quick vs. Capital Acquisitions 2-8-2015(youtube). Keep up the good work.
Always mystify, mislead and surprise the enemy if possible........--- Stonewall Jackson
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P14GU3
Savage Bullet
1240
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Posted - 2015.02.13 16:06:00 -
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DeathwindRising wrote:P14GU3 wrote:Put out the same dps at 80m as they do as 8m. Not overpowered at all ![Roll](https://forums.dust514.com/Images/Emoticons/ccp_roll.png) so do: forge guns sniper rifles scrambler rifles mass drivers
so why single out the RR? You're not getting my point. Why use any other rifle? Do I want to wreck at long range? RR. Destroy at CQC? RR. Good luck hitting anyone in CQC with a sniper or forge gun, or long range with a MD or ScR.
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