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Heimdallr69 Negative-Feedback. Negative-Feedback 4618	Posted - 2015.02.13 16:15:00 - [31] - Quote P14GU3 wrote: DeathwindRising wrote: P14GU3 wrote: Put out the same dps at 80m as they do as 8m. Not overpowered at all so do: forge guns sniper rifles scrambler rifles mass drivers so why single out the RR? You're not getting my point. Why use any other rifle? Do I want to wreck at long range? RR. Destroy at CQC? RR. Good luck hitting anyone in CQC with a sniper or forge gun, or long range with a MD or ScR. Lol you would choose a rr over cbr or ar at 8m? Yeah let the butthurt out we can see it. The RR is garbage at CQC unless you mean the arr but then that won't be hitting anything at 80m now will it? Removed inappropriate content - CCP Logibro
7th Son 7 BLITZKRIEG7 535	Posted - 2015.02.13 16:15:00 - [32] - Quote lol, if they nerf the RR, everybody will be totin that almighty Combat Rifle Always mystify, mislead and surprise the enemy if possible........--- Stonewall Jackson
P14GU3 Savage Bullet 1240	Posted - 2015.02.13 16:20:00 - [33] - Quote Heimdallr69 wrote: P14GU3 wrote: DeathwindRising wrote: P14GU3 wrote: Put out the same dps at 80m as they do as 8m. Not overpowered at all so do: forge guns sniper rifles scrambler rifles mass drivers so why single out the RR? You're not getting my point. Why use any other rifle? Do I want to wreck at long range? RR. Destroy at CQC? RR. Good luck hitting anyone in CQC with a sniper or forge gun, or long range with a MD or ScR. Lol you would choose a rr over cbr or ar at 8m? Yeah let the butthurt out we can see it. The RR is garbage at CQC unless you mean the arr but then that won't be hitting anything at 80m now will it? Yes, I refer more to the ARR, which I have been downed by at 75-80m quite often. Edit : the RR is still pretty good at CQC as well. The charge up time is just longer. 'Sault AK.0 - Logi AK.0 - Logi GK.0 - Scout GK.0 - 'Mando MK.0 - Masshole in every sense of the word.
Deus Ops T.H.I.R.D R.O.C.K RISE of LEGION 13	Posted - 2015.02.13 17:01:00 - [34] - Quote it's funny what you say here f .. SR is OP as hell. RR rly? how, with this silly kick or half damage from SR? CCP's just say you need us to use the SR so we can normaly play for next 2-3 moths until YOU DECIDE its OP an you will change it, f noobs. All guns are op if they kill you?
P14GU3 Savage Bullet 1240	Posted - 2015.02.13 17:20:00 - [35] - Quote Deus Ops wrote: it's funny what you say here f .. SR is OP as hell. RR rly? how, with this silly kick or half damage from SR? CCP's just say you need us to use the SR so we can normaly play for next 2-3 moths until YOU DECIDE its OP an you will change it, f noobs. All guns are op if they kill you? Uwatm8? 'Sault AK.0 - Logi AK.0 - Logi GK.0 - Scout GK.0 - 'Mando MK.0 - Masshole in every sense of the word.
Xocoyol Zaraoul Superior Genetics 3280	Posted - 2015.02.13 17:36:00 - [36] - Quote Deus Ops wrote: it's funny what you say here f .. SR is OP as hell. RR rly? how, with this silly kick or half damage from SR? CCP's just say you need us to use the SR so we can normaly play for next 2-3 moths until YOU DECIDE its OP an you will change it, f noobs. All guns are op if they kill you? Indubitably my good sir! "You see those red dots over there? Go and shoot them until you see a +50 on the screen" - Arkena Wyrnspire
Feldt-Grace Anaheim Electronics Manufacture Company 75	Posted - 2015.02.13 17:37:00 - [37] - Quote In CQC is the CR & Breach very strong~ Long/Mid~ RR, ScR and Tac AR~ TRANS-AM! Gundam, DUST and more Gameplays
Victor889 WarRavens Capital Punishment. 216	Posted - 2015.02.13 17:41:00 - [38] - Quote Darken-Soul wrote: They are powerful. The recoil is redic. Watch the kill feed. Most kills come from combat rifles I thought that so I respecced into them, so hard to use I wish I hadn't bothered, BAR seems to be the OP gun still.. specially on those GAL-saults (unsurprisingly) Part time Logi, Full time heavy.
Victor889 WarRavens Capital Punishment. 216	Posted - 2015.02.13 17:42:00 - [39] - Quote Feldt-Grace wrote: In CQC is the CR & Breach very strong~ Long/Mid~ RR, ScR and Tac AR~ Unless they are gimping about like a lunatic, CR can't handle these stupid CAL-scout strafers and it annoys me so much. Part time Logi, Full time heavy.
KEROSIINI-TERO The Rainbow Effect 1767	Posted - 2015.02.13 17:59:00 - [40] - Quote CCP Rattati wrote: Maybe a tad https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=191185&find=unread I believe 1) There's not been enough time for people to migrate. Most people had combat rifle and/or rail rifle skilled up so they tend to use still bit more those. 2) At the longest ranges there is a little less competition. It is very handy to be competitive at long range. Therefore all the long range weapons would have slightly higher use percentages. Combine that with point 1. and there you go. Pro-choice! For hazardous self-activated inertial dampeners! Expeting freedom SOON(tm)!!!

Vesta Opalus T.H.I.R.D R.O.C.K RISE of LEGION 423	Posted - 2015.02.13 18:18:00 - [41] - Quote sir RAVEN WING wrote: Simple question, my opinion is yes... Well at the ADV level. ARR is good, Breach RR is a little crappy but still usable.
DeathwindRising ROGUE RELICS VP Gaming Alliance 878	Posted - 2015.02.13 18:38:00 - [42] - Quote LudiKure ninda wrote: OMG are you fckin serius?? SCR op, CR op and now RR op?? Have you even used RR? Up close hipfire is imposible,and long range,it kicks too much. Stop ruining this game and GET GUD SKRUB!!!!!! Yea the RR is way to inaccurate at any range. I almost wish the cal assault bonus was kick reduction.
xxwhitedevilxx M Maphia Clan Unit Unicorn 2926	Posted - 2015.02.13 19:37:00 - [43] - Quote Heimdallr69 wrote: CCP Rattati wrote: GrimzOvaHourz wrote: Why would anyone think that when every other rifle is just as good if not more... We've never had so much balance in terms of rifles before, please don't mess up CCP and the data is not so meaningful as you think. Balance was achieved by rigorous use of data and tactical changes, discussed with the community. Well if any of the rifles are too "op" and need a fix how about the insta pop hmg? 1500hp constantly being farmed by logis, DMG resistance and puts out the most DMG... What is your stance on this one? Inb4 "heavies are Ok, that's their role: farming kills" Guinea Dust Bunnies are watching you, CCP Rouge.
Aeon Amadi Chimera Core 8709	Posted - 2015.02.14 07:37:00 - [44] - Quote xxwhitedevilxx M wrote: Heimdallr69 wrote: CCP Rattati wrote: GrimzOvaHourz wrote: Why would anyone think that when every other rifle is just as good if not more... We've never had so much balance in terms of rifles before, please don't mess up CCP and the data is not so meaningful as you think. Balance was achieved by rigorous use of data and tactical changes, discussed with the community. Well if any of the rifles are too "op" and need a fix how about the insta pop hmg? 1500hp constantly being farmed by logis, DMG resistance and puts out the most DMG... What is your stance on this one? Inb4 "heavies are Ok, that's their role: farming kills" Other then Logi, that's the only role anyone can have in this game - hence why it's a permanent fallacy to use in any argument. Have a suggestion for the Planetary Services Department? *Founder of AIV*
sir RAVEN WING Horizons' Edge 2892	Posted - 2015.02.14 15:36:00 - [45] - Quote Aeon Amadi wrote: Other than Logi, [Heavy] is the only role anyone can have in this game. Ahem, there are Scouts and Assaults. *Quoth the Raven "Nevermore!"* - Edgar Allan Poe CCP Falcon has betrayed me... twice. I will steal his hamsters!
Aeon Amadi Chimera Core 8714	Posted - 2015.02.14 15:59:00 - [46] - Quote sir RAVEN WING wrote: Aeon Amadi wrote: Other than Logi, [Heavy] is the only role anyone can have in this game. Ahem, there are Scouts and Assaults. Oh, right, Scouts who are -supposed- to be EWAR but just use that EWAR to gimmick slay anyway and Assaults who are -supposed- to be... Wait, I don't even know where you're going with this. What do you think Assault is for if anything other than slaying? Have a suggestion for the Planetary Services Department? *Founder of AIV*
Alena Ventrallis Intara Direct Action Caldari State 2550	Posted - 2015.02.14 16:01:00 - [47] - Quote CalAss should be kick reduction. Assault bonuses are about softening the racial rifles' drawbacks, and the RR drawback is kick. This needs to be done ASAP. As for the ARR, I've been advocating for a range reduction to 60m ever since the ARR got its much needed buff. It's not OP, it's got lower DPS than all the other rifles, and the kick in ADS means your not hitting anything past 50m anyway. But with a CalAss kick reduction bonus (both ADS AND hipfire) then the ARR will have higher DPS than the RR (as it should) But be only 3m less optimal than the RR (needs correcting) So in essence, kick reduction for CalAss, and range reduction to 60m for ARR. Listen to my muscle memory Contemplate what I've been clinging to Forty-six and two ahead of me
Bahirae Serugiusu Vendetta Reactionary Force 535	Posted - 2015.02.14 18:02:00 - [48] - Quote Bolt Pistols kill faster and more effectively then a Rail Rifle. Everything kills faster and more effectively then a Rail Rifle. The State will always survive.
sir RAVEN WING Horizons' Edge 2893	Posted - 2015.02.14 18:06:00 - [49] - Quote Bahirae Serugiusu wrote: Bolt Pistols kill faster and more effectively then a Rail Rifle. Everything kills faster and more effectively then a Rail Rifle. Well... But... Actually I can't think of anything weaker... Even Mass Drivers suppose them now... I feel bad *Quoth the Raven "Nevermore!"* - Edgar Allan Poe CCP Falcon has betrayed me... twice. I will steal his hamsters!
Derpty Derp Dead Man's Game 782	Posted - 2015.02.14 18:12:00 - [50] - Quote With the recoil they're at least bearable. Not too hard to deal with anymore. But then if you consider I only have 1 point in rail rifles, it could be seen as pretty over the top, being able to take on people with potentially more points in other weapons without putting in as much effort as I do when running any of the assault rifles (which I'm heavily specced into.) I'd say it could probably do with a slight nerf, but nothing too much or it'll be useless.

sir RAVEN WING Horizons' Edge 2893	Posted - 2015.02.14 18:31:00 - [51] - Quote LudiKure ninda wrote: OMG are you fckin serius?? SCR op, CR op and now RR op?? Ludi, I simply believe the charge should not be different between ADV, STD, and PRO. LudiKure ninda wrote: Have you even used RR? Up close hipfire is impossible,and long range,it kicks too much. Oh yes, the kick. Nightmarish even at lvl 5. I use Rail Rifles and Assault Rail Rifles often. It is my way of telling enemies to 'Go fuck yourself.' LudiKure ninda wrote: Stop ruining this game and GET GUD SKRUB!!!!!! I want nothing less than success for DUST 514. Would you be okay with a 0.45s charge on all levels? I would as I see no reason for it not to be that way. *Quoth the Raven "Nevermore!"* - Edgar Allan Poe CCP Falcon has betrayed me... twice. I will steal his hamsters!
Timtron Victory Horizons' Edge 391	Posted - 2015.02.14 18:59:00 - [52] - Quote I have had a field day even with the militia rail rifle. Its essentially an Assault Sniper rifle. Wonder why even Amarr Proto Assaults are using ARRs haha ISK Weekly Lottery Proud Christian Jesus Loves You
Nirwanda Vaughns 1427	Posted - 2015.02.14 20:22:00 - [53] - Quote powerful yes. accurate. f*k no. although someone killed me from full health at 86m with ishukone ARR other day. was pretty shocked Never argue with an idiot. they bring you down to their level and beat you through experience proud C-II bpo owner*
drifter 767 The Exemplars RISE of LEGION 0	Posted - 2015.02.22 19:05:00 - [54] - Quote Yea it's powerful but form a distance upclose it's useless I get more kills with the basic CR than with the proto RR in close combat but at a distance the RR tears through shields then eats your armor. I always feels like they screwed the RR
sir RAVEN WING Horizons' Edge VP Gaming Alliance 3012	Posted - 2015.02.22 19:17:00 - [55] - Quote Okay, well it seems I'm the only one seeing people using ADV RRs as ARs and attacking from 15m and succeeding. They have almost replaced Assault Rail Rifles from what I see. *Quoth the Raven "Nevermore!"* - Edgar Allan Poe CCP Falcon has betrayed me... twice. I will steal his hamsters!
Vesta Opalus T.H.I.R.D R.O.C.K RISE of LEGION 457	Posted - 2015.02.22 19:49:00 - [56] - Quote sir RAVEN WING wrote: Okay, well it seems I'm the only one seeing people using ADV RRs as ARs and attacking from 15m and succeeding. They have almost replaced Assault Rail Rifles from what I see. I havent seen many of the breach rail rifles at all recently. Im sure you can succeed from 15m with them, but saying that its better than an AR or CR up close? I don't think thats true in any way.
GrimzOvaHourz The Forgotten Spirits 100	Posted - 2015.02.22 19:52:00 - [57] - Quote ScR
sir RAVEN WING Horizons' Edge VP Gaming Alliance 3012	Posted - 2015.02.22 20:01:00 - [58] - Quote Vesta Opalus wrote: sir RAVEN WING wrote: Okay, well it seems I'm the only one seeing people using ADV RRs as ARs and attacking from 15m and succeeding. They have almost replaced Assault Rail Rifles from what I see. I havent seen many of the breach rail rifles at all recently. Im sure you can succeed from 15m with them, but saying that its better than an AR or CR up close? I don't think thats true in any way. I would say they are challenging the AR, but the CR and ScR also over-preform in these ranges. I'm begining to believe that suits need a buff. *Quoth the Raven "Nevermore!"* - Edgar Allan Poe CCP Falcon has betrayed me... twice. I will steal his hamsters!
Joel II X Bacon with a bottle of Quafe 6325	Posted - 2015.02.22 20:23:00 - [59] - Quote DeathwindRising wrote: LudiKure ninda wrote: OMG are you fckin serius?? SCR op, CR op and now RR op?? Have you even used RR? Up close hipfire is imposible,and long range,it kicks too much. Stop ruining this game and GET GUD SKRUB!!!!!! Yea the RR is way to inaccurate at any range. I almost wish the cal assault bonus was kick reduction. Almost?
JARREL THOMAS Dead Man's Game RUST415 450	Posted - 2015.02.22 20:33:00 - [60] - Quote Echo 1991 wrote: P14GU3 wrote: Tiny Pineapple wrote: [quote=P14GU3]Put out the same dps at 80m as they do as 8m. Not overpowered at all The Scrambler does the same DPS at 90m as they do as 8m. Have you even used the dam thing? It's impossible to reliably hit someone at 60m because it kicks like a mule. Yes I have proto'd every light weapon in the game. The ScR hardly hits over 60. With the sharpshooter on CR I can reach about the same range as a ScR. The ScR is a mid range weapon at best. I agree the hipfire is still a bit too good on ScR. The RR is the longest range rifle besides laser and sniper (which both suck at close range,) while the RR hipfires its way theough battles at any range. If you ADS with rail, you're doing it wrong. um yea I ADS all the time and work great when there 30-60 meters away Caldari Loyalist Why should infrantry that don't own vehicles, that can't balance their own mechanics, balance vehicles



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