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Night 5talker 514
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Posted - 2015.02.12 17:55:00 -
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12+ people got Rekt, that is all...You're welcome
http://youtu.be/V5uqROYEt8w
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Night 5talker 514
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Posted - 2015.02.12 18:24:00 -
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Just to say... imagine being a new player in this game ^^
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Edau Skir2
Mithril Forge E-R-A
459
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Posted - 2015.02.12 18:49:00 -
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Yes...the messed up Smart Deploy system in bush is showing us all how skilled you DMG players are.
I need to pop off to the doctors. My sides are hurting too much at how you described a broken game mechanic as "Getting REKT"
Logistics mk.0 / Logibro's Modified Logistics mk.0 within the week!
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Night 5talker 514
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Posted - 2015.02.12 18:55:00 -
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Edau Skir2 wrote:Yes...the messed up Smart Deploy system in bush is showing us all how skilled you DMG players are.
I need to pop off to the doctors. My sides are hurting too much at how you described a broken game mechanic as "Getting REKT"
Just a bit of internet banter bro... you mad? ^^
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Copharus Arkana
Seykal Expeditionary Group Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2015.02.12 19:32:00 -
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Why do new players suck so much? Its like they never played a video game before in there lives. |
Leadfoot10
Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance
3197
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Posted - 2015.02.12 19:58:00 -
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I sucked pretty bad when I started this game, Copharus, and I'm not sure you'd enjoy going up against me now.
We all have to start somewhere, and Dust, compartively speaking, is both difficult to play/understand and there's a huge gap between noobs and vets.
What that has to do with the OP -- which is, essentially, a squad of advanced and proto suits camping a bugged uplink/spawn -- is beyond me....so perhaps you can explain. |
G Felix
Terminus Defense Force
558
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Posted - 2015.02.12 20:14:00 -
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If I started DUST this week as opposed to having started about two years ago there is simply no way I would stick with it. All this talk about improving NPE seems a little pie in the sky to me. The SP gap is becoming insurmountable, the learning curve is massive, and the shooter mechanics are wonky and temperamental. Improvements to the tutorials and EOM salvage aren't going to address any of the real underlying issues.
Dust can be frustrating. (Gò»°Gûí°)Gò»n+¦ Gö+GöüGö+)
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Edau Skir2
Mithril Forge E-R-A
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Posted - 2015.02.12 20:32:00 -
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Well you vets would no doubt refer me still as a noob. I started playing on the 10th November, just over three months ago. But at 14mil sp, and my affinity for fps games, I can still top the board with the most kills out of anyone.
It's got nothing to do with being "new" to a game, the sucky players suck because of just that.
Which reminds me, you tryhards taking up the challenge of running all mlt fits next month?
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Night 5talker 514
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Posted - 2015.02.12 20:33:00 -
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G Felix wrote:If I started DUST this week as opposed to having started about two years ago there is simply no way I would stick with it. All this talk about improving NPE seems a little pie in the sky to me. The SP gap is becoming insurmountable, the learning curve is massive, and the shooter mechanics are wonky and temperamental. Improvements to the tutorials and EOM salvage aren't going to address any of the real underlying issues.
Agreed, I know I wouldn't be able to stick with it like I do today.
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7 Djin
The Hundred Acre Hood RISE of LEGION
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Posted - 2015.02.12 20:35:00 -
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I'm going to biomass this 27m character and start over tomorrow. |
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Edau Skir2
Mithril Forge E-R-A
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Posted - 2015.02.12 20:38:00 -
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7 Djin wrote:I'm going to biomass this 27m character and start over tomorrow. I believe they're referring to freshly new players, not low sp players who have prior experience of the game
Logistics mk.0 / Logibro's Modified Logistics mk.0 within the week!
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G Felix
Terminus Defense Force
560
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Posted - 2015.02.12 20:58:00 -
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Edau Skir2 wrote:7 Djin wrote:I'm going to biomass this 27m character and start over tomorrow. I believe they're referring to freshly new players, not low sp players who have prior experience of the game
Primarily, yes. People need to keep in mind that a lot of gamers simply aren't gluttons for punishment. A lot of casual players just want to have fun and aren't motivated by competition alone. Not everyone wants to put up with all the rage inducing aspects of DUST. Yes, I find this game gratifying, and yes that makes me somewhat masochistic.
Dust can be frustrating. (Gò»°Gûí°)Gò»n+¦ Gö+GöüGö+)
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7 Djin
The Hundred Acre Hood RISE of LEGION
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Posted - 2015.02.12 21:12:00 -
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G Felix wrote:Edau Skir2 wrote:7 Djin wrote:I'm going to biomass this 27m character and start over tomorrow. I believe they're referring to freshly new players, not low sp players who have prior experience of the game Primarily, yes. People need to keep in mind that a lot of gamers simply aren't gluttons for punishment. A lot of casual players just want to have fun and aren't motivated by competition alone. Not everyone wants to put up with all the rage inducing aspects of DUST. Yes, I find this game gratifying, and yes that makes me somewhat masochistic.
True on both comments.
I would also have people to squad with imagine that noobs.
On the second, if we made game play less clunky, getting stuck on stuff like booooooring sloooow menus, it should be quicker and our attention needs to be brought else where than that: to what we want, rather than the game being temperamental, most players just can't handle that for over an hour. And lag and the slow vague floating physics every dropsuit, vehicle, turret is subjected to. It should feel like you're at least somewhere terrestrial when you fight. I just think maybe unreal 3 engine was too much of a compromise. |
Leadfoot10
Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance
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Posted - 2015.02.12 21:21:00 -
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TBH, I've never really liked the mechanics of any of the Unreal games.
BF is a much better engine, IMO. Hell IW is even better.
I still <3 Dust though. |
Sequal's Back
Dead Man's Game RUST415
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Posted - 2015.02.12 21:38:00 -
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=ƒÿ¦=ƒÿ¦=ƒÿ¦ Illuminati =ƒÿ¦=ƒÿ¦=ƒÿ¦
Rise? That's what they used to call me. Sequal Rise. That was my name.
Now I come Back to you, at the turn of the tide.
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Night 5talker 514
Dead Man's Game RUST415
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Posted - 2015.02.13 19:30:00 -
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Sequal's Back wrote:=ƒÿ¦=ƒÿ¦=ƒÿ¦ Illuminati =ƒÿ¦=ƒÿ¦=ƒÿ¦
They're everywhere!!!!!
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Finn Colman
Immortal Guides Learning Alliance
143
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Posted - 2015.02.13 20:07:00 -
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I was showing a friend this game, and when he was starting out in the academy we had both agreed that the other newberries played as if they had never played an FPS in their lives.
Jack-of-most-trades, master of one.
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Night 5talker 514
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Posted - 2015.02.13 22:48:00 -
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Finn Colman wrote:I was showing a friend this game, and when he was starting out in the academy we had both agreed that the other newberries played as if they had never played an FPS in their lives.
Yeah, I've noticed that also when I played in academy
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Jadek Menaheim
Xer Cloud Consortium
5313
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Posted - 2015.02.13 22:55:00 -
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Song name?
Neckbeard for Good charity shave
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DarthPlagueis TheWise
469
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Posted - 2015.02.13 23:31:00 -
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waste of time thread
you know you've been playing dust too long when you can remember the last valentines day sale
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benandjerrys
KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION
125
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Posted - 2015.02.13 23:55:00 -
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DarthPlagueis TheWise wrote:waste of time thread
Disagree... My mates valcore and vice are back from destiny! |
Finn Colman
Immortal Guides Learning Alliance
145
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Posted - 2015.02.14 04:28:00 -
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Night 5talker 514 wrote:Finn Colman wrote:I was showing a friend this game, and when he was starting out in the academy we had both agreed that the other newberries played as if they had never played an FPS in their lives. Yeah, I've noticed that also when I played in academy
They didn't hack anything but the main objective (and they rarely even did that). Though I wouldn't blame them too much if they didn't know what the secondary objectives did.
Jack-of-most-trades, master of one.
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CUSE TOWN333
KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION
2163
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Posted - 2015.02.14 11:44:00 -
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Leadfoot10 wrote:I sucked pretty bad when I started this game, Copharus, and I'm not sure you'd enjoy going up against me now.
We all have to start somewhere, and Dust, compartively speaking, is both difficult to play/understand and there's a huge gap between noobs and vets.
What that has to do with the OP -- which is, essentially, a squad of advanced and proto suits camping a bugged uplink/spawn -- is beyond me....so perhaps you can explain. cough cough you still suck.
KEQ diplomat.
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Night 5talker 514
Dead Man's Game RUST415
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Posted - 2015.02.14 12:16:00 -
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Hyperfun, I think it's from Incomptech
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Viktor Hadah Jr
Negative-Impact Back and Forth
7197
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Posted - 2015.02.14 12:32:00 -
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Htfu or play cod.
CBM
EVE, Dust & Corp Services
Buying Dead & Inactive Corps
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Spkr4theDead
Red Star.
2908
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Posted - 2015.02.14 13:30:00 -
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Oh boy, ambush.
Nope. Confirming that pilot input is not, and never was, valued. - Breakin Stuff
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Night 5talker 514
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Posted - 2015.02.15 01:30:00 -
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CUSE TOWN333 wrote:Leadfoot10 wrote:I sucked pretty bad when I started this game, Copharus, and I'm not sure you'd enjoy going up against me now.
We all have to start somewhere, and Dust, compartively speaking, is both difficult to play/understand and there's a huge gap between noobs and vets.
What that has to do with the OP -- which is, essentially, a squad of advanced and proto suits camping a bugged uplink/spawn -- is beyond me....so perhaps you can explain. cough cough you still suck.
lol
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AndyAndio
0uter.Heaven
139
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Posted - 2015.02.15 02:26:00 -
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Viktor Hadah Jr wrote:Htfu or play cod.
What does that even mean? I've seen some really good Dust players on other FPS games, and this is probably the only game they can go positive.-
2013 DUST 514's MVP of the Year.-
Retired for Love of the Game
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Reign Omega
T.H.I.R.D R.O.C.K RISE of LEGION
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Posted - 2015.02.15 03:20:00 -
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Can't even lie, I lold mad hard at the remix horn. I get the point, and I sympathize with the new players but as some people mentioned before some of these blues, hell even some Vets couldn't fight their way out of a wet tee shirt.
Edit: Getcho Ahss whooped!
Mark a$$ tricks, and bags of dicks....
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castba
Rogue Instincts
762
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Posted - 2015.02.15 04:01:00 -
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Finn Colman wrote:Night 5talker 514 wrote:Finn Colman wrote:I was showing a friend this game, and when he was starting out in the academy we had both agreed that the other newberries played as if they had never played an FPS in their lives. Yeah, I've noticed that also when I played in academy They didn't hack anything but the main objective (and they rarely even did that). Though I wouldn't blame them too much if they didn't know what the secondary objectives did. Initiative would make them at least run up to secondary though. Surely? Bah! This is what the hand-holding modern day games have turned gamers into?
"When everything is OP, nothing is" - CCP Ratatti
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Night 5talker 514
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Posted - 2015.02.23 12:31:00 -
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7 Djin wrote:I'm going to biomass this 27m character and start over tomorrow.
Let us know how it goes
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Eros Adonai
Corrosive Synergy RISE of LEGION
56
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Posted - 2015.02.23 12:42:00 -
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7 Djin wrote:I'm going to biomass this 27m character and start over tomorrow.
Why would you need to do that m8? You have three character slots...Just sayin' |
Wilhelm Klingspor
DUST University Ivy League
734
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Posted - 2015.02.23 12:55:00 -
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New player experience is like making out with a rabid wolverine. painful, swift and bloody.
true story.
Will be more better, EventuallyGäó
GûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæ DON'T PANIC GûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæ
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Mad Syringe
ReDust Inc.
454
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Posted - 2015.02.23 13:32:00 -
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Night 5talker 514 wrote:7 Djin wrote:I'm going to biomass this 27m character and start over tomorrow. Let us know how it goes
I can tell you how that goes:
You need to wait 10hrs to biomass...
You need to wait 10min to de biomass when a gamemaster is on...
It doesn't matter, so go ahead.
You may get a better local chat though and the gamemasters can put you in an EVE starter corp which can be funny...
Considering the OP:
DMG squads tend to be pretty pathetic!
Most of them run proto quite a lot, and rave abut their achievements in pub games, which is really funny, what an achievement to wreck noobs with your proto kit and 50+ mil SP... I'll give you guys a generous pat on your back!
On the other hand, they cry and rage like babies, when they face the newes scrub tactic in pubs, and thats q-synced proto squads on the opposing side... suddenly the opponent is unfair and scrubby and whatever... I'ts a real Kindergarten out there...
This gets so annoying, that I had to guit that ****, I run on my own or with the guys I run since a long time with, or I just don't play , because this game is not good. It just drags you back in for another grind for another skill, but so far it never delivered on the promises that so many of us fell for:
Giant battles (16v16 lol) loads of different racial vehicles (Amarr Min lolololol) Loads of different Maps (ok, they try, but where is the min cargo hub?) PVE (The one thing that would give noobs a chance to grow before they get slaughtered by the lolvets)
And finally a meaningful Dust EVE connection (this will never happen, because you know, EVE players don't want their **** blown up by F2P players)
So what is Dust good for?
The social part is pretty much the only thing, that can be fun at times. It can also be highly annoying and a reason to just switch the game off!
EDIT: And yes that's me shooting a freedom specialist MD at those poor sods trapped in the glitched spot... |
Riptalis
Horizons' Edge VP Gaming Alliance
228
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Posted - 2015.02.23 14:12:00 -
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Yeah, the 2 most important aspects needed to be fixed are the people you're against, proto stomping v MLT, and the spawn points. Tiered fights doesn't sound so bad
Python pilot
Logistics mk.0
Assault mk.0
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TerranKnight87
Seituoda Taskforce Command Caldari State
199
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Posted - 2015.02.23 15:32:00 -
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Copharus Arkana wrote:Why do new players suck so much? Its like they never played a video game before in there lives.
That video was hilarious 10/10.
And they suck because they're probably used to 3 shot kills, maybe a bit more and getting used to hit scan and strafing. Then add gear benefits on top, lack of map knowledge and not being in a squad of vet buddies.
They get owned in pretty much any game really.
"Tech you're in a max suit, you have 15 mins to unfk yourself or you can fk off." - Stumpycat C/O of Goon Brigade.
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Mad Syringe
ReDust Inc.
455
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Posted - 2015.02.23 16:30:00 -
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TerranKnight87 wrote:Copharus Arkana wrote:Why do new players suck so much? Its like they never played a video game before in there lives. That video was hilarious 10/10. And they suck because they're probably used to 3 shot kills, maybe a bit more and getting used to hit scan and strafing. Then add gear benefits on top, lack of map knowledge and not being in a squad of vet buddies. They get owned in pretty much any game really.
The SP difference is the main problem. I recently made three brand new toons (moslty to farm components if that's possible in the future). These brand new characters suck to play, even if you run in a vet squad. If you run with your buddies in proto gear, you'll get mostly assists. If you run on your own, you get owned. There are situations where you can get OKish results, but that's very rare.
If you are new to the game, the perspective of getting owned for at least 3-4 month is not very promising at all.
So as long as the noobs don't get their own gamemode, that takes out all characters with more than 5 mil sp, and another one, that takes out all but the ones with 5-10mil sp, we will have no increase in playerbase whatsoever.
It's just no fun at all, to get constantly owned by lolvets, who think that their kdr has anything to do with skill (yes it has, but that's skillpoints bra')! |
Sir Dukey
G0DS AM0NG MEN General Tso's Alliance
1774
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Posted - 2015.02.23 16:52:00 -
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That is the funniest thing ever!!
Acquire Currency, Disregard Female Canis lupus familiaris
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Ghost Kaisar
Fatal Absolution Negative-Feedback
9891
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Posted - 2015.02.23 17:47:00 -
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Night 5talker 514 wrote:Just to say... imagine being a new player in this game ^^
Been there, done that.
Imgaine being a Min Scout back in Uprising 1.0 when Tac AR and Cal Logi's reigned supreme.
Born Deteis Caldari. Rejected by my Kinsman.
Found a new family in the Vherokior Tribe.
Nobody messes with my family
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GLOBAL RAGE
Consolidated Dust
98
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Posted - 2015.02.23 22:47:00 -
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Mad Syringe wrote:Night 5talker 514 wrote:7 Djin wrote:I'm going to biomass this 27m character and start over tomorrow. Let us know how it goes I can tell you how that goes: You need to wait 10hrs to biomass... You need to wait 10min to de biomass when a gamemaster is on... It doesn't matter, so go ahead. You may get a better local chat though and the gamemasters can put you in an EVE starter corp which can be funny... Considering the OP: DMG squads tend to be pretty pathetic! Most of them run proto quite a lot, and rave abut their achievements in pub games, which is really funny, what an achievement to wreck noobs with your proto kit and 50+ mil SP... I'll give you guys a generous pat on your back! On the other hand, they cry and rage like babies, when they face the newest scrub "tactic" in pubs, and thats q-synced proto squads on the opposing side... suddenly the opponent is unfair and scrubby and whatever... I'ts a real Kindergarten out there... This gets so annoying, that I had to guit that ****, I run on my own or with the guys I run since a long time with, or I just don't play , because this game is not good. It just drags you back in for another grind for another skill, but so far it never delivered on the promises that so many of us fell for: Giant battles (16v16 lol) loads of different racial vehicles (Amarr Min lolololol) Loads of different Maps (ok, they try, but where is the min cargo hub?) PVE (The one thing that would give noobs a chance to grow before they get slaughtered by the lolvets) And finally a meaningful Dust EVE connection (this will never happen, because you know, EVE players don't want their **** blown up by F2P players) So what is Dust good for? The social part is pretty much the only thing, that can be fun at times. It can also be highly annoying and a reason to just switch the game off! EDIT: And yes that's me shooting a Freedom Specialist MD at those poor sods trapped in the glitched spot... PATHETIC!
Years ago my group debated the question: "Is it the game or your friends" that keep you playing a game. Eventually, even the anchor players become jaded to Dev promises. |
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Night 5talker 514
Dead Man's Game RUST415
361
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Posted - 2015.02.24 05:59:00 -
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Mad Syringe wrote:Night 5talker 514 wrote:7 Djin wrote:I'm going to biomass this 27m character and start over tomorrow. Let us know how it goes I can tell you how that goes: You need to wait 10hrs to biomass... You need to wait 10min to de biomass when a gamemaster is on... It doesn't matter, so go ahead. You may get a better local chat though and the gamemasters can put you in an EVE starter corp which can be funny... Considering the OP: DMG squads tend to be pretty pathetic! Most of them run proto quite a lot, and rave abut their achievements in pub games, which is really funny, what an achievement to wreck noobs with your proto kit and 50+ mil SP... I'll give you guys a generous pat on your back! On the other hand, they cry and rage like babies, when they face the newest scrub "tactic" in pubs, and thats q-synced proto squads on the opposing side... suddenly the opponent is unfair and scrubby and whatever... I'ts a real Kindergarten out there... This gets so annoying, that I had to guit that ****, I run on my own or with the guys I run since a long time with, or I just don't play , because this game is not good. It just drags you back in for another grind for another skill, but so far it never delivered on the promises that so many of us fell for: Giant battles (16v16 lol) loads of different racial vehicles (Amarr Min lolololol) Loads of different Maps (ok, they try, but where is the min cargo hub?) PVE (The one thing that would give noobs a chance to grow before they get slaughtered by the lolvets) And finally a meaningful Dust EVE connection (this will never happen, because you know, EVE players don't want their **** blown up by F2P players) So what is Dust good for? The social part is pretty much the only thing, that can be fun at times. It can also be highly annoying and a reason to just switch the game off! EDIT: And yes that's me shooting a Freedom Specialist MD at those poor sods trapped in the glitched spot... PATHETIC!
Hey, soryy to see you go. All this is in this video is a glitch that can happen to anyone. We happened to be on the right side of the glitch and caught it on camera and I made a stupid get rekt video is all. It's not meant to say how good we are or anything, just a standard internet joke these days. Hope to see you in game soon bro :)
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Mad Syringe
ReDust Inc.
455
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Posted - 2015.02.24 12:06:00 -
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Night 5talker 514 wrote: Hey, soryy to see you go. All this is in this video is a glitch that can happen to anyone. We happened to be on the right side of the glitch and caught it on camera and I made a stupid get rekt video is all. It's not meant to say how good we are or anything, just a standard internet joke these days. Hope to see you in game soon bro :)
No worries, me leaving wasn't about this particular match, it's more a general feeling of wasting too much time on a game that's not very good or fun anymore...
Matchmaking in pubs is fubar'ed so no fun at all, factional can be fun as can PC, but in general the game doesn't give back enough to waste so much time on it. |
TerranKnight87
Seituoda Taskforce Command Caldari State
199
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Posted - 2015.02.24 13:17:00 -
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Mad Syringe wrote:TerranKnight87 wrote:Copharus Arkana wrote:Why do new players suck so much? Its like they never played a video game before in there lives. That video was hilarious 10/10. And they suck because they're probably used to 3 shot kills, maybe a bit more and getting used to hit scan and strafing. Then add gear benefits on top, lack of map knowledge and not being in a squad of vet buddies. They get owned in pretty much any game really. The SP difference is the main problem. I recently made three brand new toons (moslty to farm components if that's possible in the future). These brand new characters suck to play, even if you run in a vet squad. If you run with your buddies in proto gear, you'll get mostly assists. If you run on your own, you get owned. There are situations where you can get OKish results, but that's very rare. If you are new to the game, the perspective of getting owned for at least 3-4 month is not very promising at all. So as long as the noobs don't get their own gamemode, that takes out all characters with more than 5 mil sp, and another one, that takes out all but the ones with 5-10mil sp, we will have no increase in playerbase whatsoever. It's just no fun at all, to get constantly owned by lolvets, who think that their kdr has anything to do with skill (yes it has, but that's skillpoints bra')!
I think that dust needs to move to ps4 or at least pc so this issue to me is pretty much about as relevant as p!ssing in the wind. On top of that, it's ambush, tdm, what more do you want from chucking crap at eachother?.
It is an issue though.
"Tech you're in a max suit, you have 15 mins to unfk yourself or you can fk off." - Stumpycat C/O of Goon Brigade.
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Night 5talker 514
Dead Man's Game RUST415
361
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Posted - 2015.02.24 21:14:00 -
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TerranKnight87 wrote: It is an issue though.
It is indeed
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