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Big miku
Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance
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Posted - 2015.02.07 20:29:00 -
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Scrambler Pistol need to be buffed, Just give it back its fire rate. |
Crimson ShieId
Sinq Laison Gendarmes Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2015.02.07 20:39:00 -
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Or its' damage...
I want to punch.
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Mex-0
T.H.I.R.D R.O.C.K General Tso's Alliance
352
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Posted - 2015.02.07 20:43:00 -
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Which variant? Original? Breach? Assault? Personally, I prefer the breach, because of it's range and damage.
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davis fritz
Subsonic Synthesis RISE of LEGION
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Posted - 2015.02.07 20:45:00 -
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I say everything should be buffed all across the board. We should all be able to kill each other in 1 or 2 shots. Fun times |
Skullmiser Vulcansu
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Posted - 2015.02.07 21:02:00 -
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If it had its fire rate back, it would have the same damage per second as the scrambler rifle, but with a smaller clip size, which was what it used to be like. I thought it was amazing when it had a clip size of 6, a fire rate of 600+rpm and a damage of like, 80. That was my favorite weapon. The scrambler pistol we have now is completely different.
The breach is better, because it has about the same damage per second, but more accurate hip fire as a result of slower shooting. It's much easier to get head shots. It's also plays more like the old scrambler pistol in that I can unload on someone, and then duck behind cover, and repeat.
At this point I prefer the Breach pistol to the standard, assault, burst, and even Wolfman. The only people who use the regular scrambler pistol at this point do so only because they have blueprints for them.
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pumping up
Crux Special Tasks Group Gallente Federation
190
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Posted - 2015.02.07 21:05:00 -
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Patrick meme: Why don't we take some OP from the SCR and push it to the SCP
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Mex-0
T.H.I.R.D R.O.C.K General Tso's Alliance
352
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Posted - 2015.02.07 21:06:00 -
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Skullmiser Vulcansu wrote:If it had its fire rate back, it would have the same damage per second as the scrambler rifle, but with a smaller clip size, which was what it used to be like. I thought it was amazing when it had a clip size of 6, a fire rate of 600+rpm and a damage of like, 80. That was my favorite weapon. The scrambler pistol we have now is completely different.
The breach is better, because it has about the same damage per second, but more accurate hip fire as a result of slower shooting. It's much easier to get head shots. It's also plays more like the old scrambler pistol in that I can unload on someone, and then duck behind cover, and repeat.
At this point I prefer the Breach pistol to the standard, assault, burst, and even Wolfman. The only people who use the regular scrambler pistol at this point do so only because they have blueprints for them.
I always start a fight by draining shields with a couple rounds from my breach ScP, then I finish them with my SMG/CR.
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Arkena Wyrnspire
Fatal Absolution
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Posted - 2015.02.07 21:11:00 -
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Skullmiser Vulcansu wrote: I thought it was amazing when it had a clip size of 6
It never had a clip size of 6 unless you didn't skill into it.
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Tectonic Fusion
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Posted - 2015.02.07 21:11:00 -
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The scrambler pistol was never OP. It was good, like the SMG. Skillful players used the head-shot bonus to their advantage, but others were potato. It was really only until some scrub made a post about the SP being OP, even though the vast majority disagreed, when it got nerfed.
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Makuta Miserix
DOD - Fringe Division
356
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Posted - 2015.02.07 21:29:00 -
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The ScP is in a good spot in my opinion.
But what do I know. Right?
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poison Diego
Dead Man's Game RUST415
557
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Posted - 2015.02.07 21:34:00 -
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Big miku wrote:Scrambler Pistol need to be buffed, Just give it back its fire rate. It has its descent fire rate but the damage was stripped from it with one of the updates and has been a BB gun since then..
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Joel II X
Bacon with a bottle of Quafe
6074
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Posted - 2015.02.07 21:50:00 -
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The old RoF was better than the Ion Pistol's. The Assault's anyways. The Vanilla' s was decent as well.
The Scrambler Pistol is supposed to be a tactical pistol, not an assault. |
Ryanjr TUG
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Posted - 2015.02.07 23:00:00 -
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Big miku wrote:Scrambler Pistol need to be buffed, Just give it back its fire rate.
So does the Combat rifles do to...:(
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Nocturnal Soul
Primordial Threat
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Posted - 2015.02.07 23:05:00 -
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Makuta Miserix wrote:The ScP is in a good spot in my opinion. But what do I know. Right? That's right...back down
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Edau Skir2
Nefantar Raiders
410
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Posted - 2015.02.07 23:43:00 -
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Big miku wrote:Scrambler Pistol need to be buffed, Just give it back its fire rate. It really doesn't. I'm constantly going on killing sprees with my BrScp. If I, not even a well known player like Arkena or Sgt Kirk, can do this, then it does not need buffing. I mean, I can take down Sents with it for god sake.
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Makuta Miserix
DOD - Fringe Division
357
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Posted - 2015.02.07 23:44:00 -
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Nocturnal Soul wrote:Makuta Miserix wrote:The ScP is in a good spot in my opinion. But what do I know. Right? That's right...back down
You know, I expected that.
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Big miku
Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance
374
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Posted - 2015.02.07 23:50:00 -
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Edau Skir2 wrote:Big miku wrote:Scrambler Pistol need to be buffed, Just give it back its fire rate. It really doesn't. I'm constantly going on killing sprees with my BrScp. If I, not even a well known player like Arkena or Sgt Kirk, can do this, then it does not need buffing. I mean, I can take down Sents with it for god sake.
Oh boy, here we go. Look , just because ONE variant of a weapon is OKAY at best don't mean the weapon is not UP. The scrambler pistol is under powered and only people who lack the skill to use the Bolt pistol fall back on the breach. Can't kill your mark in 4 or less shots? Better swear by the Breach.
The right of fire needs to be returned to pre-nerf numbers. The Scrambler Pistol is a joke of a weapon. You can use every other Sidearm in the game as a main weapon but the Scrambler and its lackluster damage and RoF is severally lacking when stacked up along side the damage profiles of the other Sidearms |
Makuta Miserix
DOD - Fringe Division
357
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Posted - 2015.02.07 23:53:00 -
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Big miku wrote:Edau Skir2 wrote:Big miku wrote:Scrambler Pistol need to be buffed, Just give it back its fire rate. It really doesn't. I'm constantly going on killing sprees with my BrScp. If I, not even a well known player like Arkena or Sgt Kirk, can do this, then it does not need buffing. I mean, I can take down Sents with it for god sake. Oh boy, here we go. Look , just because ONE variant of a weapon is OKAY at best don't mean the weapon is not UP. The scrambler pistol is under powered and only people who lack the skill to use the Bolt pistol fall back on the breach. Can't kill your mark in 4 or less shots? Better swear by the Breach. The right of fire needs to be returned to pre-nerf numbers. The Scrambler Pistol is a joke of a weapon. You can use every other Sidearm in the game as a main weapon but the Scrambler and its lackluster damage and RoF is severally lacking when stacked up along side the damage profiles of the other Sidearms
If the RoF is your problem use the Assault variant.
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Big miku
Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance
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Posted - 2015.02.07 23:59:00 -
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Makuta Miserix wrote:If the RoF is your problem use the Assault variant.
Scrambler Pistol 5.88 Rounds per second, 310 DPS
Assault Scrambler Pistol 6.66 rounds per second, 324 DPS
A marginal difference, not cost effective. |
Makuta Miserix
DOD - Fringe Division
357
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Posted - 2015.02.08 00:03:00 -
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Big miku wrote:Makuta Miserix wrote:If the RoF is your problem use the Assault variant. Scrambler Pistol 5.88 Rounds per second, 310 DPS Assault Scrambler Pistol 6.66 rounds per second, 324 DPS A marginal difference, not cost effective.
Let's say the ScP needs a buff then.
Wouldn't bringing back to pre-1.8 levels be a bit drastic?
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Edau Skir2
Nefantar Raiders
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Posted - 2015.02.08 00:05:00 -
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Big miku wrote:Edau Skir2 wrote:Big miku wrote:Scrambler Pistol need to be buffed, Just give it back its fire rate. It really doesn't. I'm constantly going on killing sprees with my BrScp. If I, not even a well known player like Arkena or Sgt Kirk, can do this, then it does not need buffing. I mean, I can take down Sents with it for god sake. Oh boy, here we go. Look , just because ONE variant of a weapon is OKAY at best don't mean the weapon is not UP. The scrambler pistol is under powered and only people who lack the skill to use the Bolt pistol fall back on the breach. Can't kill your mark in 4 or less shots? Better swear by the Breach. The right of fire needs to be returned to pre-nerf numbers. The Scrambler Pistol is a joke of a weapon. You can use every other Sidearm in the game as a main weapon but the Scrambler and its lackluster damage and RoF is severally lacking when stacked up along side the damage profiles of the other Sidearms Yeah I also use the STD variant. It's not hard to use, the rof is fine and I still get plenty of kills with it.
This is just another qq thread calling for a buff because someone sucks at using it.
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Big miku
Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance
374
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Posted - 2015.02.08 00:07:00 -
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Makuta Miserix wrote:Wouldn't bringing back to pre-1.8 levels be a bit drastic?
Buff the damage or lower it in raise RoF, the main issue with the RoF nerf is that the gun itself feels hindered by it, it is difficult to maintain its true RoF with out using a modded controller. The DPS by the number may be 320-340, but due to the "heavy trigger" on the weapon it falls to the mid 200s ate best. |
Big miku
Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance
374
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Posted - 2015.02.08 00:09:00 -
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Edau Skir2 wrote:This is just another qq thread calling for a buff because someone sucks at using it.
Please kiddo, I was running dual PCP fits before you even broke 1000 SP. The scrambler pistol is a shadow of a weapon held back by a rushed Nerf to incentive people to use the other guns, that time has passed and it need be returned to useability.
There is a reason it sees no PC use. |
WeapondigitX V7
The Exemplars RISE of LEGION
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Posted - 2015.02.08 00:11:00 -
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The breach SCP is straight up better than the other SCP's because it costs more PG/CPU.
I would have liked the other SCP's to have there CPU/PG cost increased in order to justify there buff.
Such as (for the assault variant) increasing the ROF a lot and increasing the damage slightly by roughly 1 point.
For the regular variant I would have liked a big ROF increase and much less damage per bullet and many more bullets in the clip.
I would have suggested the burst variant have less hipfire recoil and less Aim down sights recoil, while perhaps increasing the damage by roughly 0.5 points. |
Makuta Miserix
DOD - Fringe Division
357
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Posted - 2015.02.08 00:11:00 -
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Big miku wrote:Makuta Miserix wrote:Wouldn't bringing back to pre-1.8 levels be a bit drastic? Buff the damage or lower it in raise RoF, the main issue with the RoF nerf is that the gun itself feels hindered by it, it is difficult to maintain its true RoF with out using a modded controller. The DPS by the number may be 320-340, but due to the "heavy trigger" on the weapon it falls to the mid 200s ate best.
Pretty sure it hits higher than 200 DPS on average. Especially if you factor in headshots.
And headshot are the ScP's strong point.
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Edau Skir2
Nefantar Raiders
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Posted - 2015.02.08 00:14:00 -
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Big miku wrote:Edau Skir2 wrote:This is just another qq thread calling for a buff because someone sucks at using it. Please kiddo, I was running dual PCP fits before you even broke 1000 SP. The scrambler pistol is a shadow of a weapon held back by a rushed Nerf to incentive people to use the other guns, that time has passed and it need be returned to useability. There is a reason it sees no PC use. Watch out, we have a badass vet over here. Better shut my 4 month old mouth before I get told how much more experienced he is.....even though you're QQ'ing about a sidearm that you have problems using, and I don't. Must be young luck eh?
Get your head out your ass. Next thing you'll be saying that the Bolt pistol needs less recoil or the SMG needs more range. Please....
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Big miku
Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance
374
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Posted - 2015.02.08 00:20:00 -
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Edau Skir2 wrote: Get your head out your ass. Next thing you'll be saying that the Bolt pistol needs less recoil or the SMG needs more range. Please....
Bolt and SMG are amazing, Git gud scrublord and maybe one day your opinion will matter. |
Edau Skir2
Nefantar Raiders
412
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Posted - 2015.02.08 00:23:00 -
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Big miku wrote:Edau Skir2 wrote: Get your head out your ass. Next thing you'll be saying that the Bolt pistol needs less recoil or the SMG needs more range. Please....
Bolt and SMG are amazing, Git gud scrublord and maybe one day your opinion will matter. Git gud? I use neither of those anymore because I do better with the ScP, which must grind your gears. I come top two 4 out of 5 matches I play, even in fw. Please, enlighten me as to how I need to "Get good"?
Your whiney vet advice is much needed apparently.
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Big miku
Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance
374
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Posted - 2015.02.08 00:27:00 -
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Edau Skir2 wrote:Your whiney vet advice is much needed apparently.
You've yet to state any reason the Scrambler is Decent other than "I'm okay with it", like I said, it ain't run in PC means a whole lot. |
Edau Skir2
Nefantar Raiders
413
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Posted - 2015.02.08 00:30:00 -
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Big miku wrote:Edau Skir2 wrote:Your whiney vet advice is much needed apparently. You've yet to state any reason the Scrambler is Decent other than "I'm okay with it", like I said, it ain't run in PC means a whole lot. All it means is that there aren't people like me in PC, and yes, I would use it. Considering the ScP is the only Laser sidearm, it always does incredibly well against those who shield tank. THAT'S why it's fine where it is. Common sense much?
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Fizzer XCIV
Tal-Romon Legion Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2015.02.08 05:37:00 -
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Joel II X wrote:The old RoF was better than the Ion Pistol's. The Assault's anyways. The Vanilla' s was decent as well.
The Scrambler Pistol is supposed to be a tactical pistol, not an assault. Not exactly.
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JUDASisMYhomeboy
xCosmic Voidx
375
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Posted - 2015.02.08 05:59:00 -
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The breach is the **** but i agree the vanilla scrambler pistol is underwhelming. The std breach is better than the wolfmans which in a way is sad. Its that damage profile imo. You need to be doing seriius damage to overcome that -20
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GRIM GEAR
nos nothi
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Posted - 2015.02.08 06:23:00 -
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Big miku wrote:Edau Skir2 wrote:Big miku wrote:Scrambler Pistol need to be buffed, Just give it back its fire rate. It really doesn't. I'm constantly going on killing sprees with my BrScp. If I, not even a well known player like Arkena or Sgt Kirk, can do this, then it does not need buffing. I mean, I can take down Sents with it for god sake. Oh boy, here we go. Look , just because ONE variant of a weapon is OKAY at best don't mean the weapon is not UP. The scrambler pistol is under powered and only people who lack the skill to use the Bolt pistol fall back on the breach. Can't kill your mark in 4 or less shots? Better swear by the Breach. The right of fire needs to be returned to pre-nerf numbers. The Scrambler Pistol is a joke of a weapon. You can use every other Sidearm in the game as a main weapon but the Scrambler and its lackluster damage and RoF is severally lacking when stacked up along side the damage profiles of the other Sidearms
To be honest the bolt pistol is easier to use than the breach scrambler pistol Though I do agree with Big Miku that the scrambler pistol variants besides the breach are a joke. Maybe the answer to all of this is CCP to nerf the breach scrambler pistol to make it on pa with the rest of the scrambler pistols, resulting in a redundant weapon skill point sink.
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Tectonic Fusion
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Posted - 2015.02.08 06:56:00 -
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It's funny because before the nerf, the breach sucked and the rest were great. Now the tables have turned...
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Buwaro Draemon
WarRavens Capital Punishment.
968
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Posted - 2015.02.08 07:26:00 -
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A probable damage buff. The Ion Pistol is out and the Scrambler Pistol should not be able to have high ROF. Asking for its high ROF back, then the Ion Pistol would need to have a higher ROF in order to keep its role.
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Timtron Victory
Horizons' Edge
320
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Posted - 2015.02.08 07:49:00 -
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Edau Skir2 wrote:Big miku wrote:Scrambler Pistol need to be buffed, Just give it back its fire rate. It really doesn't. I'm constantly going on killing sprees with my BrScp. If I, not even a well known player like Arkena or Sgt Kirk, can do this, then it does not need buffing. I mean, I can take down Sents with it for god sake.
Amen to that. Its gotten too easy it aint fun anymore. Heavies even use it. Thats how good it is. I personally feel that the clip size of all weapons should be reduced but I am crazy
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Tectonic Fusion
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Posted - 2015.02.08 18:29:00 -
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Timtron Victory wrote:Edau Skir2 wrote:Big miku wrote:Scrambler Pistol need to be buffed, Just give it back its fire rate. It really doesn't. I'm constantly going on killing sprees with my BrScp. If I, not even a well known player like Arkena or Sgt Kirk, can do this, then it does not need buffing. I mean, I can take down Sents with it for god sake. Amen to that. Its gotten too easy it aint fun anymore. Heavies even use it. Thats how good it is. I personally feel that the clip size of all weapons should be reduced but I am crazy The breach right now is good for heavys due to being able to aim carefully (Dust has very clunky aim) and shoot at the head without falter, and it's really good for anti-scout. Try the rest of the pistols...they really suck. It has slow RoF and low damage. How is that balanced? Even the range is meh.
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Atiim
Titans of Phoenix
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Posted - 2015.02.08 18:45:00 -
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Scrambler Pistol does not need its old RoF, if you want a high-RoF pistol than use the Ion Pistol.
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noob cavman
Fatal Absolution General Tso's Alliance
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Posted - 2015.02.08 19:08:00 -
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The breach is the only decent variant. The others are okay ish but compared to the breach they fall off to the wayside fairly quickly. With the heavy hittimg bolt Nd the spamable ion being used alot more than the scp. Smg is still awesome as always
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Cat Merc
Fatal Absolution General Tso's Alliance
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Posted - 2015.02.08 21:10:00 -
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*Looks at headshot bonus* *Looks at other pistol's headshot bonus*
If you want more ROF, go to the Ion Pistol. If you want more damage, go to the bolt pistol.
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